Get ready! (Sony BDP-S1 BD Player) - Blu-ray Forum

Sony1 · 02-18-2006, 10:11 AM

I found this at the Sonystyle.com Blue ray player

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...c&Dept=tvvideo

thunderhawk · 02-18-2006, 08:54 PM

nice

Sony1 · 02-19-2006, 03:29 PM

Wow, we will be able to upconvert standard dvd to 1080/60P!

thunderhawk · 02-19-2006, 06:33 PM

Yup, I guess it'll probably be a standard feature in the coming Blu-ray Disc players/recorders...

However, I wanna know... Does this upconverted picture also gets downscaled because your display doesn't support HDCP?

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HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc players will only output full-resolution signals using HDCP. If such a player is connected to a non-HDCP-enabled television set, the player will output a downsampled 540p signal.

Sorry.. But I'm quite p*ssed by this..

AV_Integrated · 02-19-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by thunderhawk

...downscaled because your display doesn't support HDCP?

Sorry.. But I'm quite p*ssed by this..

Why? This has been generally accepted as what would happen with HD for at least 3 years now. I know when I bought my projector 3 years ago with a DVI input it was an issue at that time.

Older TVs I guess people may have issues with... but anyone who buys a TV today and doesn't research it really only has themself to blame. Heck, Sylvania still sells a plasma without ANY digital input on it at all!

Not trying to knock you, just figure out why the industry doing exactly what was expected makes you upset.

Rob · 02-20-2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony1

Wow, we will be able to upconvert standard dvd to 1080/60P!

Shame there isn't a display or projector that will accept a 1080p60 signal. The best so called 1080p sets canm do is to upconvert a 1080i60 signal into 1080p.

Knight-Errant · 02-20-2006, 02:24 PM

Do we think this player will do full HD sound?

cws2882 · 02-20-2006, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Knight-Errant

Do we think this player will do full HD sound?

That is what i was wondering. I thought i saw a icon on one of the pictures that had the DTS HT, but didnt see anything about Dolby true HD

AV_Integrated · 02-21-2006, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Shame there isn't a display or projector that will accept a 1080p60 signal. The best so called 1080p sets canm do is to upconvert a 1080i60 signal into 1080p.

Of course you aren't including the HP right?

1080p displays we will see with 1080p acceptance this year more and more. It's not really typical for the A/V industry to let some upstart A/V company (HP) come in and steal their thunder.

I believe the newest Sony Ruby projectors include 1080p support as well.

chewbaca69 · 02-23-2006, 01:49 AM

how much will this cost u think?

mrb713 · 02-23-2006, 01:02 PM

I read in psm magazine last month that sony's first blu-ray player would retail for around $1300 at first, then as with most electronics, the price tag will eventually become more affordable. Although there unofficial and 100 percent independent, there sources are pretty reliable.

Knight-Errant · 02-23-2006, 01:35 PM

HD DVD is basically junking features and limboing under blu-ray's pricepoint in order to gain any advantage.

Me? I would rather pay for quality. I've been saving for blu-ray for ages.

Sony1 · 02-23-2006, 04:35 PM

Lets not kill the messenger before the message gets delivered! I am as anxious about Blue-ray as you are my friend, and I have seen Blue Ray in person at the Sony Center in Berlin, truly auwsome to say the least. However getting HD DVD out and on the market will be a good thing. It should give Sony a kick in the pants to get their balls rolling sort to speak! So we want HD DVD to come out and come out swingin because we already know what the better product is!

Knight-Errant · 02-23-2006, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sony1

Lets not kill the messenger before the message gets delivered! I am as anxious about Blue-ray as you are my friend, and I have seen Blue Ray in person at the Sony Center in Berlin, truly auwsome to say the least. However getting HD DVD out and on the market will be a good thing. It should give Sony a kick in the pants to get their balls rolling sort to speak! So we want HD DVD to come out and come out swingin because we already know what the better product is!

I'm not panicking, I'm basically just commenting objectively.

Rob · 02-26-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AV_Integrated

Of course you aren't including the HP right?

1080p displays we will see with 1080p acceptance this year more and more. It's not really typical for the A/V industry to let some upstart A/V company (HP) come in and steal their thunder.

I believe the newest Sony Ruby projectors include 1080p support as well.

Is this definitely 1080p60? I've seen numerous sets/projectors that claim to be 1080p, yet they can only accept 1080i and scale up tp 1080p. Sony's $25,000 Qualaia SXRD projector calls itself a 1080p projector, only won't accept a 1080p60 signal. Any links to 1080p60 sets?

cws2882 · 02-27-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob

Any links to 1080p60 sets?

There is no TVs at this time that can accept 1080p60 via hdmi. HP has one that they claim does 1080p, but it is really 1080p at 24hz, not 60hz. Next generation of TVs shoulds support this and will probabaly be out this year.

MeGaBlitz · 02-27-2006, 05:06 PM

Can someone tell me what 1080p or 1080p60 is? is it the sound or the quality? I have never heard a despcription like that. Is it good or bad? And how much p has blu-ray?

Thanks!
meGa

cws2882 · 02-27-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by MeGaBlitz

Can someone tell me what 1080p or 1080p60 is? is it the sound or the quality? I have never heard a despcription like that. Is it good or bad? And how much p has blu-ray?

high def video is defined at: 720p, 1080i, or 1080p . The number represents the number of vertical lines in the picture. the p stands for progressive scan(shows all vertical lines per frame) and the i stands for interlaced (shows half the vertical lines per frame). each of these run at a certain frequency. I think the broatcast standard is about 24 or 30hz. blue ray can output 1080p at 60hz.

MeGaBlitz · 02-27-2006, 06:00 PM

Oh thanks! And sorry for my bad english

And one more question: How much p's or i's and hz will HD-DVD have?

Thank you!
meGa

cws2882 · 02-27-2006, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by MeGaBlitz

Oh thanks! And sorry for my bad english

And one more question: How much p's or i's and hz will HD-DVD have?

If i remeber correctly, the first HD-DVD players will be 720p at 24hz, but within a year or so some might come out at 1080p 60hz

02-18-2006, 10:11 AM	#1
Sony1 Banned Member since:Nov 2005	Get ready! (Sony BDP-S1 BD Player) I found this at the Sonystyle.com Blue ray player http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTE...c&Dept=tvvideo

02-19-2006, 03:29 PM	#3
Sony1 Banned Member since:Nov 2005	Backward-compatability Wow, we will be able to upconvert standard dvd to 1080/60P!

02-23-2006, 01:02 PM	#11
mrb713 Active Member Member since:Feb 2006	1300....maybee. I read in psm magazine last month that sony's first blu-ray player would retail for around $1300 at first, then as with most electronics, the price tag will eventually become more affordable. Although there unofficial and 100 percent independent, there sources are pretty reliable.

02-23-2006, 04:35 PM	#13
Sony1 Banned Member since:Nov 2005	Hd Dvd Lets not kill the messenger before the message gets delivered! I am as anxious about Blue-ray as you are my friend, and I have seen Blue Ray in person at the Sony Center in Berlin, truly auwsome to say the least. However getting HD DVD out and on the market will be a good thing. It should give Sony a kick in the pants to get their balls rolling sort to speak! So we want HD DVD to come out and come out swingin because we already know what the better product is!

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02-18-2006, 08:54 PM	#2
thunderhawk Moderator Member since:Jul 2004 Location:Belgium	nice

02-20-2006, 02:24 PM	#7
Knight-Errant Power Member Member since:Aug 2005 Location:Sheffield, UK	Do we think this player will do full HD sound?

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chewbaca69 New Member Member since:Feb 2006	how much will this cost u think?

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Knight-Errant Power Member Member since:Aug 2005 Location:Sheffield, UK	HD DVD is basically junking features and limboing under blu-ray's pricepoint in order to gain any advantage. Me? I would rather pay for quality. I've been saving for blu-ray for ages.

02-27-2006, 05:06 PM	#17
MeGaBlitz Junior Member Member since:Feb 2006	Can someone tell me what 1080p or 1080p60 is? is it the sound or the quality? I have never heard a despcription like that. Is it good or bad? And how much p has blu-ray? Thanks! meGa

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