Weird - "Mini-Blu-ray Disc Media Coming From Verbatim"

[Matt X]

check the comments, good points...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8284

[calgarymarc]

Originally Posted by Matt X

check the comments, good points...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8284

It isn't that weird. They are making new media which will be compatible for anything Blu-ray. Take the new 'Hitachi BD-compatible' HD-video recorder coming out soon. This camcorder utilizes this new media.
It will be very interesting to see future products that use this media!

Mini-BD anyone?

[goku3]

I think camcorders should be utilizing hard drives and not optical media because with hard drive based camcorders, you don't have to buy any blank media. Having mini bd in a camcorder will be the same as having mini dvd, which didn't become popular due to the high costs of blank media.

[WickyWoo]

Hard drives are not good in portable devices, specifically portable devices that may be dropped

Flash memory all the way

[Matt X]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Hard drives are not good in portable devices, specifically portable devices that may be dropped

Flash memory all the way

...that's the way I saw it, too, along w/above arguments re: physical recordable media. Flash capacity keeps getting better and better, and will be easier to work w/, esp. if I was gonna archive it in my shiny PS3!!!

[Ashplisken]

I wouldn't really say the reason that mini-dvd camcorders didn't catch on was media price, it was more that you could only fit a half hour of video on a single layer disc and an hour on a dual layer. This turns many people off to the concept. However, at the retail store I work at, mini-dvd camcorders are still the best selling camcorders we have, and HD camcorders are tanking. The problem is that a lot of people do not want to have to use their computer to grab the video from the camera and then have to burn it to dvd later. Many people still are not fully computer savvy and that scares them away. Mini-Blu brings a lot to the table, when you really think about it. Not only do you have an optical storage media that you can effectively store HD video recordings on, but if you are not recording in full HD, you can store much more on the disc, thus solving the biggest deterrent to mini-dvd. Regardless, Flash is the future, they just have to get it big enough. Chances are what will end up taking off will be a Flash memory camcorder with a blu-ray burner dock or a combo camcorder with flash memory and a Blu-ray drive built in so you can burn the media.

[Ender]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

Hard drives are not good in portable devices, specifically portable devices that may be dropped

Flash memory all the way

My iPod disagrees with you.

[adnank77]

Flash technology still has some way to go before being able to support huge spaces .. I mean what would 16GB give u ?! useless space for HD Video Recording

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Ender

My iPod disagrees with you.

Heh, Liquid Crystal leaks are even worse for hard drives .

[takezo]

Originally Posted by goku3

I think camcorders should be utilizing hard drives and not optical media because with hard drive based camcorders, you don't have to buy any blank media. Having mini bd in a camcorder will be the same as having mini dvd, which didn't become popular due to the high costs of blank media.

"you don't have to buy blank media" Well that's the point right? I beileive mini disc recorders are quite popular as most advertised recorders are mini disc. Besides HDD types are not very user friendly to the non techie types. They don't know how to rip a movie and burn them on a disc. Sure their maybe easy drag in drop apps later in the future, but Mini discs are the ultimate in n00b friendly. It's no harder to use than a digital camera, but you can just pop disc into Blu-ray player and play it as any ordinary movie. It's for those people who were used to VHS camcorders of the early 90's.

Flash media has still some time to go before you see 8GB, but it will be no diffrent than HDD camcorders. Most still need to burn it. Mini disc recoders eliminate the rip to PC step.

[JAMCAS50]

Hi,

Sony have released the
HDRCX7K

its a hi definition handcam that records to memory stick.

a 4gb stick holds 30mins of HQ HD video

8gb sticks are available giving an hour of recording time

and 16gb sticks will probably be available early next year if memory stick is to keep up with other flash media

the beauty of this is that the mmory stick goes straight into the ps3
unlike the HD tapes handycams which have to be transferred at real time and the AVI files cant be played on the PS3 !!

Sony please bring out AVI support on the PS3 !



jamcas

[BluSmoke]

Not impressed honestly. 1 hr of recording only? I thought the mini discs were 16.5gb per layer?

[AV_Integrated]

Originally Posted by goku3

I think camcorders should be utilizing hard drives and not optical media because with hard drive based camcorders, you don't have to buy any blank media. Having mini bd in a camcorder will be the same as having mini dvd, which didn't become popular due to the high costs of blank media.

I have over 100 digital 8mm tapes. That works out to... how many hard drives?

Blank media is the best and proper way to record home video. You create a memory and then you can store it for viewing days, weeks, or years later as you want. If its on a hard drive, you must move it elsewhere before you can record more memories. On a long vacation, where you may shoot 10 or 20 hours (or more) of video, this is easy to do with recordable media, but with a hard drive you are in trouble.

Ditto with flash drives. I'm sorry, until 8GB is $2.00, then it isn't practical as a storage medium and it has the same product failings that a hard drive does unless you have a dozen available to you and are willing to dump the drives all the time to make room for more video.

Someday - when 8GB hits that $2.00 price point, then it will make a ton of sense, but right now, it's just not there.

Mini-BD is a great step up for what it offers right now.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Matt X

check the comments, good points...

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=8284

If they made a double layer one, it would have as much storage as a hd-dvd disc.