NO extras on Fifth Element!!! - Blu-ray Forum

Dr Kain · 06-14-2006, 02:04 PM

The Fifth Element is already a beautiful film in regards to color and cinematography, but with the possibility of having 1080i resolution this film is bound to be a benchmark test for blu-ray DVD players. One downside though: no extras. That's right. All the cool stuff in the ultimate edition is gone. Getting this DVD is just like getting the first one they released. You get only the movie. If I were you I would wait until they make some kind of special edition in blu-ray so you get the higher resolution AND the goodies.

No extras... WTF??!!

Of course, how we he know? I doubt he has a blu-ray player. I've been wanting this movie for years, so I still plan to get it, but I hope this isn't a trend for BR.

zombie · 06-14-2006, 06:03 PM

What's the source of that comment? It doesn't surprise me at all that there are no extras and I expect the majority of the initial BDs will be the same due to BD50 not being used yet. Besides this is Sony we're talking about. They have every intention of trying to get customers to double dip even with HD titles. I plan on buying this disc but I would be very disappointed if the movie wasn't in 1080p. I don't think that'll be the case but we'll know soon.

phloyd · 06-14-2006, 06:50 PM

People keep asking how you fit a movie at good bitrate and uncompressed audio and all the extras on a 25GB disc without sacrificing quality...

Now we know the answer - sacrifice content.

Personally I think it is the correct answer. Your DVD still has all the content.

AV_Integrated · 06-14-2006, 10:41 PM

I know there are some people who swear by the special features and extras that are on DVDs, but I know that I am NOT one of those people. I watch the movie, then put it away for a while. No 'extras' almost ever are seen unless the movie was really funny and I've got some time to kill looking at outtakes.

Heck, it's often tough to stay awake through the feature presentation!

Dr Kain · 06-14-2006, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phloyd

People keep asking how you fit a movie at good bitrate and uncompressed audio and all the extras on a 25GB disc without sacrificing quality...

Now we know the answer - sacrifice content.

Personally I think it is the correct answer. Your DVD still has all the content.

Except I never bought Fifth Element on DVD. If Sony wants to see BR, they're going to have to put the extras on the disc. HD-DVDs have their extras, some even have additional ones (like Constantine). Why should BR be treated any differently?

suprmallet · 06-15-2006, 01:04 AM

Sony double and triple and quadruple dips. That's life.

JTK · 06-15-2006, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by suprmallet

Sony double and triple and quadruple dips. That's life.

They all do it. They're all going to continue to do it.

Like I expected, and both formats are guilty of this...first gen here is being treated like first gen of DVD was.

You get a barebones product.

You all know as well as I do that a couple of years from now or so...you'll see at least one more pressing of a BR (or whatever final format there is) Fifth Element and the rest of it.

These are the kinds of things that contribute to the reasons why I never early adopt.

zombie · 06-15-2006, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by nyg

What's the source of that comment?

Still waiting.

suprmallet · 06-15-2006, 08:41 PM

On the other hand, Fifth Element is not a film where I need tons of extras. And the lack of extras just means more space for audio and video. It's the entire basis behind Sony's Superbit DVD line.

Dr Kain · 06-16-2006, 04:33 AM

Sorry, my source came from a user on the AnimeonDVD.com forums.

zombie · 06-16-2006, 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dr Kain

Sorry, my source came from a user on the AnimeonDVD.com forums.

Thanks.

Dr Kain · 06-16-2006, 01:48 PM

However, according to the AVS site, there are some extras on it.

Jazar · 06-16-2006, 02:40 PM

There *are* extras. Read the review:

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/fifthelement3.html

Psiweaver · 06-16-2006, 05:51 PM

I could care less about the extras i just want steller picture quality and amazing audio and if it delivers that then i'll be happy. If it fails in that regard then i have not interest in the format. I have all the superbit movies for that reason alone. To get the best picture and audio possible. I also like the critereon collection for the same reason.

zombie · 06-16-2006, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psiweaver

I could care less about the extras i just want steller picture quality and amazing audio and if it delivers that then i'll be happy. If it fails in that regard then i have not interest in the format. I have all the superbit movies for that reason alone. To get the best picture and audio possible. I also like the critereon collection for the same reason.

Amen. The best a/v possible is what I want too. I wish extras were always on another disc or not even included so that the entire capacity of a disc could be used for maximizing the a/v quality of each movie. Sadly it's going to take a little time before we get the best that BD can offer. I have no doubt that BD will be better than Superbit quality though so I will be buying into the format at launch.

Dr Kain · 06-16-2006, 06:42 PM

I hope the quality is better than Superbit because I've yet to see a SB DVD impress me.

suprmallet · 06-17-2006, 06:08 AM

I was actually pleasantly surprised at, of all movies, the Labyrinth superbit DVD. There were definite details on that release that I could not make out nearly as easily on the collector's edition DVD (namely the hidden Jareth stones placed around the film).

JTK · 06-17-2006, 02:58 PM

I'm more concerned about some people writing about how this particular transfer of Fifth Element leaves something to be desired, HD or not.

zombie · 06-17-2006, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTK

I'm more concerned about some people writing about how this particular transfer of Fifth Element leaves something to be desired, HD or not.

My understanding is that the Ultimate Edition DVD transfer was superb. From the little info out there on the BD thus far it sounds like they used a different (and worse) transfer for the BD. Pretty damn stupid if true.

The Don · 06-17-2006, 07:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Psiweaver

I could care less about the extras i just want steller picture quality and amazing audio and if it delivers that then i'll be happy. If it fails in that regard then i have not interest in the format. I have all the superbit movies for that reason alone. To get the best picture and audio possible. I also like the critereon collection for the same reason.

this is why I'm a big fan of Superbit versions...I own Snatch, Black hawk Down, Spiderman 2 and The One...The One sucked....but the other 3 are great...

06-14-2006, 02:04 PM	#1
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	NO extras on Fifth Element!!! The Fifth Element is already a beautiful film in regards to color and cinematography, but with the possibility of having 1080i resolution this film is bound to be a benchmark test for blu-ray DVD players. One downside though: no extras. That's right. All the cool stuff in the ultimate edition is gone. Getting this DVD is just like getting the first one they released. You get only the movie. If I were you I would wait until they make some kind of special edition in blu-ray so you get the higher resolution AND the goodies. No extras... WTF??!! Of course, how we he know? I doubt he has a blu-ray player. I've been wanting this movie for years, so I still plan to get it, but I hope this isn't a trend for BR. Last edited by Dr Kain; 06-14-2006 at 02:09 PM.

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06-14-2006, 06:03 PM	#2
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:866	What's the source of that comment? It doesn't surprise me at all that there are no extras and I expect the majority of the initial BDs will be the same due to BD50 not being used yet. Besides this is Sony we're talking about. They have every intention of trying to get customers to double dip even with HD titles. I plan on buying this disc but I would be very disappointed if the movie wasn't in 1080p. I don't think that'll be the case but we'll know soon.

06-14-2006, 06:50 PM	#3
phloyd Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2003 Location:California Trading Score:5	People keep asking how you fit a movie at good bitrate and uncompressed audio and all the extras on a 25GB disc without sacrificing quality... Now we know the answer - sacrifice content. Personally I think it is the correct answer. Your DVD still has all the content.

06-14-2006, 10:41 PM	#4
AV_Integrated Senior Member Member since:Jan 2005	I know there are some people who swear by the special features and extras that are on DVDs, but I know that I am NOT one of those people. I watch the movie, then put it away for a while. No 'extras' almost ever are seen unless the movie was really funny and I've got some time to kill looking at outtakes. Heck, it's often tough to stay awake through the feature presentation!

06-15-2006, 01:04 AM	#6
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	Sony double and triple and quadruple dips. That's life.

06-15-2006, 08:41 PM	#9
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	On the other hand, Fifth Element is not a film where I need tons of extras. And the lack of extras just means more space for audio and video. It's the entire basis behind Sony's Superbit DVD line.

06-16-2006, 04:33 AM	#10
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	Sorry, my source came from a user on the AnimeonDVD.com forums.

06-16-2006, 01:48 PM	#12
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	However, according to the AVS site, there are some extras on it.

06-16-2006, 02:40 PM	#13
Jazar Active Member Member since:Jun 2006	There are extras. Read the review: http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/fifthelement3.html

06-16-2006, 05:51 PM	#14
Psiweaver Special Member Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Los Angeles,CA	I could care less about the extras i just want steller picture quality and amazing audio and if it delivers that then i'll be happy. If it fails in that regard then i have not interest in the format. I have all the superbit movies for that reason alone. To get the best picture and audio possible. I also like the critereon collection for the same reason.

06-16-2006, 06:42 PM	#16
Dr Kain Banned Member since:Jun 2006 Location:Denver CO	I hope the quality is better than Superbit because I've yet to see a SB DVD impress me.

06-17-2006, 06:08 AM	#17
suprmallet Active Member Member since:Jun 2006 Blu-ray collection:264	I was actually pleasantly surprised at, of all movies, the Labyrinth superbit DVD. There were definite details on that release that I could not make out nearly as easily on the collector's edition DVD (namely the hidden Jareth stones placed around the film).

06-17-2006, 02:58 PM	#18
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	I'm more concerned about some people writing about how this particular transfer of Fifth Element leaves something to be desired, HD or not.

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