Xbox addon sales numbers in..

[b2bonez]

Looks like the addon did pretty well but with the reported numbers of standalone players sold in the US, HD-DVD is going to have a hard time breaking 100,000 units (US) by years-end..

http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=14737

The Xbox 360 has sold 3.4 million units in the U.S., and the newly launched Wii and PS3 come in at 476K and 197K, respectively. Along with the Wii console, 270K Wii remotes and 153K nunchuks were also sold.

Interestingly, from a next-gen DVD standpoint the Xbox 360 HD DVD peripheral sold 42K units. So technically, within the gaming universe the PS3/Blu-ray install base is nearly five times greater.

And a little quick math gives an 1.23% attach rate for the HD-DVD addon...

b2b

[theknub]

i'm with you that they are close to 100k units. my question is that 42k global or just US?

if global, the attach rate is even less and the number of ps3 units sold even more.

start including standalone BR players, and I think BR has easily doubled (if not tripled) the installed base of hd-dvd

[b2bonez]

Originally Posted by theknub

i'm with you that they are close to 100k units. my question is that 42k global or just US?

if global, the attach rate is even less and the number of ps3 units sold even more.

start including standalone BR players, and I think BR has easily doubled (if not tripled) the installed base of hd-dvd

I think all of those numbers are US. Interesting is that the Xbox sales dropped from the previous 3.8M to 3.4M, so something is up with Xbox too. My theory on Xbox is they are the "man in the middle" with Wii killing them from below and PS3 starting to kill them from above. Holidays '07 is going to be fun to watch...

b2b

[dialog_gvf]

Originally Posted by b2bonez

I think all of those numbers are US. Interesting is that the Xbox sales dropped from the previous 3.8M to 3.4M, so something is up with Xbox too. My theory on Xbox is they are the "man in the middle" with Wii killing them from below and PS3 starting to kill them from above. Holidays '07 is going to be fun to watch...

I wondered whether the Wii would cut into XBox 360 sales. It makes a great stopgap for those who would have wanted to get the kids a PS/3, but they aren't available, or feel they are currently too expensive.

The PS/2 is still outselling the XBox 360. So, most of those sales are still most logically destined for the PS/3 at some point.

And it seems to me a lot of people buying the add-on already had an HD DVD player. So, the attach rate of that scenario is ZIP, pulling down the effectiveness of those 42K.

The add-ons are easy to get. So, given that the thing was hyped everywhere for eight months, a doubling from here would be pretty good.

Gary

[Dave]

the Xbox 360 HD DVD peripheral sold 42K units. So technically, within the gaming universe the PS3/Blu-ray install base is nearly five times greater.

The same what i know...

[Rio]

I think 42,000 is a quite good number. I had expected it would be 20,000 to 30,000. Remember, many HD DVD supporters thought more than 100,000 HD DVD players sold based on the internet buzz (mainly in AVS Forum?), while in the real world, there were only 25,000 players sold as of September and 35,000 as of Dec. 1.

[ProvenFlipper]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

And it seems to me a lot of people buying the add-on already had an HD DVD player. So, the attach rate of that scenario is ZIP, pulling down the effectiveness of those 42K.

This is exactly what I was talking about when the Add-on was launching. It seems that most of these add-ons were purchased by members of AVS Forums as secondary players. One guy purchased five of them and wasn't giving them to other people. I wonder what the ratio of add-ons sold to the number of actual new customers is?

[Spankey]

Here are some more SUMMERSALTS OF DENIAL!

Sheesh. I have never seen so many people give so much for an inferior product. I've lost so much respect for the opinion of so many people. Any objectivity has been completely tossed overboard.

[dialog_gvf]

Revised: Game Industry Up 16% through November

Interestingly, from a next-gen DVD standpoint the Xbox 360 HD DVD peripheral sold 42K units. So technically, within the gaming universe the PS3/Blu-ray install base is nearly five times greater.

So much for the 100K, 150K, and 200K fanboy estimates.

And with so many unsold, one can safely assume that everyone that wanted one probably already has one.

Gary

[theknub]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=4084

[sticks]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

Revised: Game Industry Up 16% through November



So much for the 100K, 150K, and 200K fanboy estimates.

And with so many unsold, one can safely assume that everyone that wanted one probably already has one.

Gary

I notice the pile of 360's sitting in the isle of the local Futureshop with a couple of add-ons sitting on top of them. Could be my imagination but the 2 seem to have been sitting there a while, hehe.

[BTBuck1]

Nintendo's controller outsells rival pads and Xbox 360 HD-DVD
Data trackers NPD have published new figures for videogame accessory sales in the US, revealing that Nintendo sold 270,000 Wii remote controllers during the month of November.
In the same period, 153,000 nunchuk peripherals were also sold, while consumers snapped up 476,000 Wii consoles.
Nintendo's handheld is also continuing to prove a hit - the third most popular accessory for the month was the NDS Lite Starter Kit, racking up sales of 154,000.
Microsoft's HD-DVD add-on for Xbox 360 hit the shops on November 7, and 42,000 units were sold over the course of the month. The second best performing accessory overall was the Xbox 360 wireless controller, with 251,000 units sold, while 84,000 consumers bought the 360 Play and Charge kit.
The Sixaxis controller for Sony's PlayStation 3 fared less well, shifting 98,000 units. However, 152,000 of Sony's PS2 Memory Cards were sold, and Nyko also shifted 100,000 units of its third-party version. Gamers also bought 186,000 Dualshock controllers for PS2.

Original article:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=21707

[BTBuck1]

Wasnt this suppossed to neutralize the ps3's BD player impact? 42 thousand seems like a tiny amount, however that is about how many hddvd players toshiba sold in 6 months, so i guess their userbase doubled, actually it probably didn't...(avs'rs probably bought a large amount of these) as they sold out on amazon (their haven), but retailers have had them pretty handily. I'd guess that close to half of these sold were to people who already owned a buggy A1/XA1 (like me) and wanted to watch "End of Days" without it studdering all over the place

[b2bonez]

Originally Posted by Brian@BBY

Wasnt this suppossed to neutralize the ps3's BD player impact? 42 thousand seems like a tiny amount, however that is about how many hddvd players toshiba sold in 6 months, so i guess their userbase doubled, actually it probably didn't...(avs'rs probably bought a large amount of these) as they sold out on amazon (their haven), but retailers have had them pretty handily. I'd guess that close to half of these sold were to people who already owned a buggy A1/XA1 (like me) and wanted to watch "End of Days" without it studdering all over the place

As far as I can tell all of the die-hard HD-DVD fans own a A1, Xbox addon, and either have a A2 or are waiting for the XA2. I guess after they buy 4 or 5 players they will end up with one that "kinda" works "OK"... And they will be all bragging how "cheap" all 4 or 5 players were when they bought them..

Been there, done that... I got 8 or 10 "prize" DVD players in my collection..

What's the term.. ?? "penny wise and pound foolish"

b2b

[Josh]

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=4084

Closing duplicate thread in wrong forum.