Got my new kuro! now what? - Blu-ray Forum

aphex · 04-01-2008, 07:50 PM

Hey everyone, I couldn't wait and did purchase the 1080p 50in kuro and got about 450 bucks off at bestbuy! Thanks for all the tips on haggling and tv choosing etc!

Now what? I should have the tv tomorrow. I figure i'll burn that break in dvd, that's not too much to handle, but calibration etc? What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

savage1984 · 04-01-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by aphex

Hey everyone, I couldn't wait and did purchase the 1080p 50in kuro and got about 450 bucks off at bestbuy! Thanks for all the tips on haggling and tv choosing etc!

Now what? I should have the tv tomorrow. I figure i'll burn that break in dvd, that's not too much to handle, but calibration etc? What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

well keep all the settings at minimum for the first 100 hrs. get rid of the black bars while watching tv. Professional calibration is about $300. Some people swear by it. Others don't. I say wait under the 100 hr period has passed, then feel it out. I haven't had a calibration done, so I don't have any 1st hand experience.

savage1984 · 04-01-2008, 07:54 PM

Also, Congratulations.

saprano · 04-01-2008, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by aphex

Hey everyone, I couldn't wait and did purchase the 1080p 50in kuro and got about 450 bucks off at bestbuy! Thanks for all the tips on haggling and tv choosing etc!

Now what? I should have the tv tomorrow. I figure i'll burn that break in dvd, that's not too much to handle, but calibration etc? What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

A picture revelation.

saprano · 04-01-2008, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by savage1984

well keep all the settings at minimum for the first 100 hrs. get rid of the black bars while watching tv. Professional calibration is about $300. Some people swear by it. Others don't. I say wait under the 100 hr period has passed, then feel it out. I haven't had a calibration done, so I don't have any 1st hand experience.

iv had my tv for 7 month's now, how many hours would you say i wached already( i lost count)im gonna calibrate my tv to.

saprano · 04-01-2008, 08:01 PM

I did the math if i wached for 6 hours a day 7 days a week, and i got over 1176 hours. of cours i didnt wach it exactly like that, so take off about 200 hours and were looking at about 900 hours....... i love math

savage1984 · 04-01-2008, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

iv had my tv for 7 month's now, how many hours would you say i wached already( i lost count)im gonna calibrate my tv to.

well that depends on how much tv you watch.

4 hr/day * 30 = 120/month
120hrs * 7 = 840 hrs so far. You're ready for a calibration.

jizzle · 04-01-2008, 08:04 PM

Thought the Kuro's come pre-calibrated from the manufacture. Read that some where in this forum I think.

Beta Man · 04-01-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ****le

Thought the Kuro's come pre-calibrated from the manufacture. Read that some where in this forum I think.

they all come "calibrated" just no properly

savage1984 · 04-01-2008, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

they all come "calibrated" just no properly

lol

saprano · 04-01-2008, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by savage1984

well that depends on how much tv you watch.

4 hr/day * 30 = 120/month
120hrs * 7 = 840 hrs so far. You're ready for a calibration.

on average i do about 6 hours for 4 or 5 days.

dobyblue · 04-01-2008, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by aphex

What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

Thanks to D-Nice at AVS for these settings.

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Originally Posted by D-Nice

Recommended 150 Hour Break-In settings for Pioneer 4280/5080/5010FD/6010FD/Elite 950/1150/110FD/150FD (ONLY to be used with the Break-in DVD and a DVD player!!! DO NOT USE THESE SETTINGS WITH ANY OTHER DVD, CABLE BOX, SAT BOX, ETC!!!!!!!!!!)

Main Menu:
AV Selection: Standard
Contrast: 50
Brightness: -2
Color: +15
Tint: 0
Sharpness: 0

Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema
Film Mode: Off

Picture Detail:
DRE Picture: High
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3

Color Detail:
Color Temp: High
CTI: Off

Noise Reduction:
DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Power Save Mode: Off
Orbiter: On

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Originally Posted by D-Nice

Updated 3/27/2008

Pioneer 5010FD/6010FD Reference Settings

Main Menu:
AV Selection: User
Contrast: 33
Brightness: 0
Color: -10
Tint: Red 2
Sharpness: -15

Pro Adjust

Pure Cinema
Film Mode: Standard
Text Optimization: Off

Picture Detail:
DRE Picture: Off
Black Level: Off
ACL: Off
Enhancer Mode: 2
Gamma: 3

Color Detail:
Color Temp: Low
CTI: Off

Noise Reduction:
3DNR: Off
Field NR: Off
Power Save Mode: Off
Orbiter: Mode 2 (Dot by Dot Stretch Mode) Mode 1 (All other Stretch Modes)

Note:
The color setting has been set to bring the overall color saturation to levels where everything "appears" correct. Feel free to change the color setting to your liking.

The Contrast has been set for with a max light output of 40ft-l.

aphex · 04-01-2008, 08:23 PM

awesome doby! lol I was hoping you'd reply. alright i'll probably follow those settings for the first 150hr then follow along with the new settings.

So am I supposed to leave it on with those settings while using the break in disc and then rese the settings if I want to watch a movie inbetween?

How important is professional calibration after this?

dobyblue · 04-01-2008, 10:42 PM

It's important if you want it ISF calibrated.
You can always wait to see how it looks in two weeks and then if you feel you want to get more out of the picture, pay $200-$300 to get an ISF certified technician to come and calibrate it.

I don't bother with it, I'm sure many do though. You probably want to get it re-calibrated every 6 months or so to stay in "reference" mode.

I'd check it with these settings first though. If you change to TV, switch to the other settings, not the break-in ones.

trey · 04-01-2008, 10:47 PM

are there these settings anywhere for a cable box or more importantly for a PS3?

Blinkman987 · 04-01-2008, 11:02 PM

Break in is about 100 hours. Try to avoid static images like tv branding marks or watching too much 4:3 or Cinemascope (1:2.35) media to avoid burning in the black bar lines. You'll see ghosting, which goes away as soon as the picture changes or after a few minutes without the offending item on the screen. You can also grey out the bars on most TVs, but I think it looks ugly. Burn in isn't a problem like it was a few years ago, but it can happen.

If you go in there with your receipt, I'm sure they'd tack on calibration for you if you live in an area where you can get a ISF certified one. You can check on the Image Science Foundation website. It's $200 through BBuy, but sometimes they try and send someone that isn't certified and they've trained themselves. If you want an experienced "name" to come and do it, it'll usually be $300-$500 depending if you have a home audio system.

They do turn down the temperature of your colors, which does save you a few dollars and extend the life of your screen. They limit you to two inputs in the agreement, but I've never seen a tech hold to that. All the HDMI are the same anyway.

Picture settings, while they can be helpful, are user-specific and room specific. You don't see the same things everyone else sees. I've seen some wonky settings on AVS for my PX75U in the bedroom compared to what I have it set at. That has to do with their eyes, the lighting of the room they have it in, etc...

I figure if you're buying a $2,000 (or in your case $4000) TV, what's 5% - 10% to make sure that its running at its best?

rragland · 04-01-2008, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by aphex

Hey everyone, I couldn't wait and did purchase the 1080p 50in kuro and got about 450 bucks off at bestbuy! Thanks for all the tips on haggling and tv choosing etc!

Now what? I should have the tv tomorrow. I figure i'll burn that break in dvd, that's not too much to handle, but calibration etc? What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

Congratulations. I have the 50" Elite version 1080p KURO. You are going to love it.

ManUtd · 04-02-2008, 12:12 AM

Well congrats. I'm sure the Kuro won't disappoint.

dobyblue · 04-02-2008, 12:36 AM

Those reference settings are from someone with substantial contacts at Pioneer. They're not just someone's idea of what looks good.

flyinghi5 · 04-02-2008, 09:37 PM

Plug it in and watch it

Sorry just had to do that. I have the 50" and you are just going to absolutely love it. I concur with all, low settings for the first 100 hours, set with calibration disk after broke in and sit back and enjoy that thing.

04-01-2008, 07:50 PM	#1
aphex Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Scottsdale Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	Got my new kuro! now what? Hey everyone, I couldn't wait and did purchase the 1080p 50in kuro and got about 450 bucks off at bestbuy! Thanks for all the tips on haggling and tv choosing etc! Now what? I should have the tv tomorrow. I figure i'll burn that break in dvd, that's not too much to handle, but calibration etc? What are the things I need to look into for my new plasma? thanks again everyone!

04-01-2008, 08:01 PM	#6
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	I did the math if i wached for 6 hours a day 7 days a week, and i got over 1176 hours. of cours i didnt wach it exactly like that, so take off about 200 hours and were looking at about 900 hours....... i love math Last edited by saprano; 04-01-2008 at 08:03 PM.

04-01-2008, 11:02 PM	#16
Blinkman987 Banned Member since:Mar 2008	Break in is about 100 hours. Try to avoid static images like tv branding marks or watching too much 4:3 or Cinemascope (1:2.35) media to avoid burning in the black bar lines. You'll see ghosting, which goes away as soon as the picture changes or after a few minutes without the offending item on the screen. You can also grey out the bars on most TVs, but I think it looks ugly. Burn in isn't a problem like it was a few years ago, but it can happen. If you go in there with your receipt, I'm sure they'd tack on calibration for you if you live in an area where you can get a ISF certified one. You can check on the Image Science Foundation website. It's $200 through BBuy, but sometimes they try and send someone that isn't certified and they've trained themselves. If you want an experienced "name" to come and do it, it'll usually be $300-$500 depending if you have a home audio system. They do turn down the temperature of your colors, which does save you a few dollars and extend the life of your screen. They limit you to two inputs in the agreement, but I've never seen a tech hold to that. All the HDMI are the same anyway. Picture settings, while they can be helpful, are user-specific and room specific. You don't see the same things everyone else sees. I've seen some wonky settings on AVS for my PX75U in the bedroom compared to what I have it set at. That has to do with their eyes, the lighting of the room they have it in, etc... I figure if you're buying a $2,000 (or in your case $4000) TV, what's 5% - 10% to make sure that its running at its best? Last edited by Blinkman987; 04-01-2008 at 11:06 PM.

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04-01-2008, 07:54 PM	#3
savage1984 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Los Angeles	Also, Congratulations.

04-01-2008, 08:04 PM	#8
jizzle Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Dallas, TX Blu-ray collection:165	Thought the Kuro's come pre-calibrated from the manufacture. Read that some where in this forum I think.

04-01-2008, 08:23 PM	#13
aphex Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Scottsdale Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:4	awesome doby! lol I was hoping you'd reply. alright i'll probably follow those settings for the first 150hr then follow along with the new settings. So am I supposed to leave it on with those settings while using the break in disc and then rese the settings if I want to watch a movie inbetween? How important is professional calibration after this?

04-01-2008, 10:42 PM	#14
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	It's important if you want it ISF calibrated. You can always wait to see how it looks in two weeks and then if you feel you want to get more out of the picture, pay $200-$300 to get an ISF certified technician to come and calibrate it. I don't bother with it, I'm sure many do though. You probably want to get it re-calibrated every 6 months or so to stay in "reference" mode. I'd check it with these settings first though. If you change to TV, switch to the other settings, not the break-in ones.

04-01-2008, 10:47 PM	#15
trey Active Member Member since:Jan 2008	are there these settings anywhere for a cable box or more importantly for a PS3?

04-02-2008, 12:12 AM	#18
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	Well congrats. I'm sure the Kuro won't disappoint.

04-02-2008, 12:36 AM	#19
dobyblue Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jul 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Home Theater Gallery:71 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:655 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Those reference settings are from someone with substantial contacts at Pioneer. They're not just someone's idea of what looks good.

04-02-2008, 09:37 PM	#20
flyinghi5 Junior Member Member since:Feb 2008	Plug it in and watch it Sorry just had to do that. I have the 50" and you are just going to absolutely love it. I concur with all, low settings for the first 100 hours, set with calibration disk after broke in and sit back and enjoy that thing.

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