Why do studios bother with some releases...

[uk-guy]

why do film studios bother.
given the release of rocky and speed. these films just do not cut it in hi-def.
i understand the money making part of it but surely the must realize that a
20+ year old film just is not going to look good i know some older films do look great and if we are all honest? it is a bit of a lottery with some of these
older films should we be expected to settle for a bit better than dvd is that
what we expected. when venturing into the bluray format please dont get me
wrong i am sold on the future being in bluray i have some excellent demo disc material to really show the power of hi-def but i wonder how many people will
really be convinced of hi-def if there first purchase is "say" rocky

just wanted to know what others opinions of bluray have been would love to
hear other forum members opinion on the matter.

[aviman33]

Why not Rocky? It's a great film. Why does everything have to be demo material? I bought my BR player so I could experience films as they were originally presented in a theater. Many films of the 70's had that gritty and grainy look. The DVD versions of these films really look bad on 100"+ screens. With BD technology they look exactly the way they originally looked in the theater, if not better. I couldn't be happier.

[u_nick]

So far, no matter how 'crappy' the blu-ray, they ALL look better than my standard DVD. On a regular player, my DVD's 'stretch' to fit the screen. Even upscaled is nice, but not the quality of the Blu-ray.

Also, it's not just about picture. Sound is a factor as well.

[jj5206]

Speed doesnt cut it in high def????? While Speed doesn't look and sound the best, it is still a hell of a lot better than the dvd. I compared the two and it was no contest!

[Cromlech]

I agree with you guys. Even if the Blu-Ray is less than Stellar for AV quality, it will still beat the DVD for playback on a big screen, just because of the added resolution. Besides, many Blu-Ray titles have loads of extras all on the one disc.

[aviman33]

I think a lot of this comes down to screen size. People with small screens just can't see the difference between DVD and BD , unless they are looking at reference quality material. That's why there's so many "where's the beef posts". You know, "somethings wrong with my setup because BD is supposed to look better than this" post or "why do they waste BD on this old grainy stuff". Don't expect movies to ever look like DiscoveryHD material. It's just not the intent of movies to look like a HD nature show or an animated Pixar movie.

[Nameless Evil]

Originally Posted by aviman33

I bought my BR player so I could experience films as they were originally presented in a theater. Many films of the 70's had that gritty and grainy look. The DVD versions of these films really look bad on 100"+ screens. With BD technology they look exactly the way they originally looked in the theater, if not better. I couldn't be happier.

QFT

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

but i wonder how many people will
really be convinced of hi-def if there first purchase is "say" rocky

Well I'm sure if they sat down and compare the Blu-ray to DVD copy they'll be convince.

[uk-guy]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Well I'm sure if they sat down and compare the Blu-ray to DVD copy they'll be convince.

yes the bluray version is brighter and cleaner looking. but thats not what you really expected when you thought of 1080p and the words "beyond high definition" en-blazed on the front of the cover

[#Darren]

Originally Posted by aviman33

I think a lot of this comes down to screen size. People with small screens just can't see the difference between DVD and BD , unless they are looking at reference quality material.

Seems to be the case.

[uk-guy]

Originally Posted by iDarren

Seems to be the case.

iDarren you are wrong i have a 40inch samsung lcd tv size is not everything if the tv is full-hd 1080p
and you only have say a 32-inch then its still showing the full capabilities of the film regardless of the size

[ryoohki]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

idarren you are wrong i have a 40inch samsung lcd tv size is not everything

Size vs view distance is the thing.

If you have 40 and sit at 10F it won't have the same effect then 20F

It's human. Human eye have a limit.. There's also a lot of people that need glasses and they don't even know about it...

[aviman33]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

idarren you are wrong i have a 40inch samsung lcd tv size is not everything

That's pretty small. At that size you will need some good reference material to tell the difference between good up converted DVD and BD. I'm viewing with 100" front projection and many here have significantly larger screens and much better projectors. The difference on big screens is dramatic.

[uk-guy]

Originally Posted by aviman33

That's pretty small. At that size you will need some good reference material to tell the difference between good up converted DVD and BD. I'm viewing with 100" front projection and many here have significantly larger screens and much better projectors. The difference on big screens is dramatic.

yes the difference on big screens is more dramatic but not necessarily better like i said if the screen is 1080p 32-40 inch it really shouldn't matter you shouldn't see any less quality from the picture sure with a larger screen it will look more dramatic but not any better than say a 32-40 inch

[aviman33]

uk-guy

Don't be fooled by 1080P. Some video magazine did a comparison some time back between 1080i and 1080P. The results demonstrated you needed at least a 65" TV to see any improvement resulting from 1080P. Rather than getting a 40" 1080P TV you would have been better served to spend the money on a 50"+ 1080i set.

[aviman33]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

yes the difference on big screens is more dramatic but not necessarily better like i said if the screen is 1080p 32-40 inch it really shouldn't matter you shouldn't see any less quality from the picture sure with a larger screen it will look more dramatic but not any better than say a 32-40 inch

I'm afraid it doesn't work that way.

[uk-guy]

Originally Posted by aviman33

uk-guy

Don't be fooled by 1080P. Some video magazine did a comparison some time back between 1080i and 1080P. The results demonstrated you needed at least a 65" TV to see any improvement resulting from 1080P. Rather than getting a 40" 1080P TV you would have been better served to spend the money on a 50"+ 1080i set.

ok then so these films will really only look stunning if you have a small cinema
in your home it brings it back to the average buyer some if not most will not be able to afford having a small cinema in there home should a min tv size then be put on the back of the bd does rocky only
look better if you have a 65"+ tv i have read the reviews on rocky and speed i will take it that the folks who reviewed the film dont have 65"+ tvs in there home

[DeathByAsh'aman]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

ok then so these films will really only look stunning if you have a small cinema
in your home it brings it back to the average buyer some if not most will not be able to afford having a small cinema in there home should a min tv size then be put on the back of the bd

+1... We shouldnt expect mass consumer adoption if these are the truths.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by uk-guy

yes the bluray version is brighter and cleaner looking. but thats not what you really expected when you thought of 1080p and the words "beyond high definition" en-blazed on the front of the cover

Well everyone has their own opinion on what they think 1080p and the words “Beyond High Definition” should look like.

Why studios bother with some releases? Because people will buy them, it's really that simple.

[uk-guy]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Well everyone has their own opinion on what they think 1080p and the words “Beyond High Definition” should look like.

Why studios bother with some releases? Because people will buy them, it's really that simple.

thats not what the adverts for these lcd tvs are telling us they are plugging
1080p as the best quality you can buy remember i am totally sold on bluray
but in order for this format to really sell and become mainstream they really
need to start telling buyers what to truly expect instead of using the words
"beyond high definition" or start telling the buyers that some films will only look stunning if you have a 65"+ tv the fact of the matter is that the bluray format is showing it as it was meant to be show on the big screen