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Old 05-29-2009, 10:54 AM   #1
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While im researching receivers, I have been looking through this whole HDMI input and lossless audio features that some of the cheaper recievers really ____ you on. Anyways, what should I be looking for as far as specs go that show the HDMI inputs allow through audio?
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While im researching receivers, I have been looking through this whole HDMI input and lossless audio features that some of the cheaper recievers really ____ you on. Anyways, what should I be looking for as far as specs go that show the HDMI inputs allow through audio?
Read A Guide to Home Theater Audio Codecs. It will give you a better understanding of HD audio through HDMI cable.
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While im researching receivers, I have been looking through this whole HDMI input and lossless audio features that some of the cheaper recievers really ____ you on. Anyways, what should I be looking for as far as specs go that show the HDMI inputs allow through audio?
If you are asking how to spot a receiver that does not process HDMI audio, the manual will say a separate audio connection is required when using HDMI. That's the biggie The product description will also use terms like "video switching" or "pass through" to describe its HDMI functions.

If your BD player decodes all formats, HDMI 1.1 is all you need in your receiver. If you are going to bitstream the HD codecs to your receiver for decoding, it needs HDMI 1.3 along with dts-MA and TrueHD decoders.
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:43 PM   #4
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While im researching receivers, I have been looking through this whole HDMI input and lossless audio features that some of the cheaper recievers really ____ you on. Anyways, what should I be looking for as far as specs go that show the HDMI inputs allow through audio?
Are you hooking your PS3 up to it for BD playback?
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Old 05-29-2009, 01:53 PM   #5
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Yup using the PS3 for the Blue-ray playback. And you all are right im just looking for what to spot for when choosing the reciever. All I want to do is transmit everything through HDMI cables, no components.
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Old 05-29-2009, 02:18 PM   #6
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Yup using the PS3 for the Blue-ray playback. And you all are right im just looking for what to spot for when choosing the reciever. All I want to do is transmit everything through HDMI cables, no components.
well, is you are using the ps3, you just need a receiver that receives pcm signal via HDMI. The receiver doesnt need to decoded any HD sound if ps3 is the only player you'll have. unless you are thinking of buying in the future a blu-ray player that can bitstream hd sound (ps3 can't), then you need a receiver that does both (receiver hd sound and decodes it). Myself for example, I'm a PS3 junky so I know for sure i wont be buying another player for my living room.

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Old 05-29-2009, 04:28 PM   #7
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Yeah im totally not buying a stand-alone BDP untill my PS3 stops working. I just dont have the need for one as of yet, or a designated room to hop up. But as far as the typical recievers go, I can pretty much get any of them with HDMI inputs? Will only be doing a 5.1 as my couch is right up against our wall with zero places to put 2 additional speakers for a 7.1 system. The only thing I would be hooking up to reciever would be my PS3, cable box, and an up-converting dvd player. I just dont want to get a reciever that doesnt accept audio through the HDMI inputs..... Am I correct when reading the info on here that some recievers wont accept some audio signals over HDMI? But for my purpose, I dont think this should apply am I correct?
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:39 PM   #8
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Just grab an Onkyo 605+ and you'll be set. The new 607s are pretty nice, just depends on your price range.
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Old 05-29-2009, 04:48 PM   #9
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I have a PS3 80Gb and a sony amp, connected via HDMI, and the PS3 does all the decoding, it must only be the smaller hard drive PS3 that wont do this,
It outputs HD DTS master and HD DD with no problem,
All the sony shows is a in put it wont show what the source sound coming in is, but you see this info on the screen via your remote.
I never understand when people but on these places that the PS3 wont decode. cos it does!!
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I just dont want to get a reciever that doesnt accept audio through the HDMI inputs..... Am I correct when reading the info on here that some recievers wont accept some audio signals over HDMI? But for my purpose, I dont think this should apply am I correct?
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If you are asking how to spot a receiver that does not process HDMI audio, the manual will say a separate audio connection is required when using HDMI. That's the biggie The product description will also use terms like "video switching" or "pass through" to describe its HDMI functions.
You need a receiver with HDMI 1.1 or better that processes audio over HDMI. These days, most new AVRs that do audio over HDMI come with HD decoders as well. While you don't need those features now with your PS3, I'd recommend getting them to provide maximum flexibility in future purchases.
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So what I am really looking for in my case is that it has atleast HDMI 1.1 inputs correct? if so this is a huge step forward, as I have started to look. Just have to find one that will allow for all banana plug hookups as well
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Just grab an Onkyo 605+ and you'll be set. The new 607s are pretty nice, just depends on your price range.
The 605 is so hard to find. Do you know where I could get one. I know I won't need extra HDMI inputs for quite a while.

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So would this be a good reciever for what I have and am doing?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218065494188
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Yea that pioneer would work.

Here's the link to the 605 on amazon that someone asked for. Ebay will have them too, prolly for cheaper.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...3623965&sr=8-1
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So would this be a good reciever for what I have and am doing?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage....=1218065494188
yes that pioneer would work, so would the sony str-dg720 or STR-DH700, or the Yamaha RX-V465 and the Onkyo 507 or 607
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Basically you want to look and see if the receiver does HDMI switching or HDMI repeating. If it does something called HDMI passthrough, you'll want to steer clear.
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