X-Men Trilogy with DTS-HD HR instead of MA - Blu-ray Forum

msetten · 04-14-2009, 06:34 PM

I just got my copy of the X-Men Trilogy here in the Netherlands for only 39.99 euros (about $53). It is six discs in one pack, with a separate plastic cover that slides over the pack to keep it together. And it seems to be region free as the back shows the icons ABC.

I watched the first movie today, and it looks fantastic. The only thing I noticed that is kind of worrying is that my PS3 says that the audio is DTS-HD HR and not DTS-HD MA. And its bitrate is 'only' 3.0Mb. The same goes for X-2 and The Last Stand.

So it seems we don't get any uncompressed sound with this X-Men Trilogy. That is really a shame!! Why Fox, Why????

Sonny · 04-14-2009, 06:39 PM

Does it say DTS-HD MA on the back?

robertc88 · 04-14-2009, 06:40 PM

OP,

What amp and BD player are you utilizing?

AikonEnt · 04-14-2009, 06:42 PM

Well my copy of the trilogy will be on it's way sometime this week so it'll be annoying if the same thing applies to the UK release also. Looks like I'd better not throw out my copy of Last Stand I bought previously as that has 6.1 DTS HD MA.

Sky_Captain · 04-14-2009, 06:52 PM

Dirty bast*rds!

Sussudio · 04-14-2009, 06:55 PM

this thread should be "flagged" so people know you aren't referring to the US release (even if the audio is the same). just a suggestion

Rantlers · 04-14-2009, 06:59 PM

This very well could just be limited to the Netherlands. I know Fox released the Planet of The Apes Quintology with only DTS-HD HR there, but DTS-HD MA everywhere else. Not sure the reasoning why...

bizarro · 04-14-2009, 06:59 PM

i've heard that the uk version and the us version gets hd ma while the euro countries
(France,Spain,the Netherlands,italy...) get hr because of the additional languages tracks there isn't room for dts hd ma.
they've done the same with quantum of solace, the box says hd ma but it is really dts hr

jw · 04-14-2009, 07:04 PM

This IS NOT the US release, he had the wrong forum

msetten · 04-14-2009, 07:40 PM

It is indeed a combined Dutch/French/Italian release. This is very annoying. The back only shows DTS HD, without HR or MA. If I had known, I would have ordered the UK release. As the package is open now, I cannot return it.

@robertc88: my Blu-Ray player is a PS3 which showed the DTS-HD HR which goes as MPCM to my receiver.

(Sorry for posting in the wrong forums, I wasn't aware there were separate forums for US and EU releases).

jw · 04-14-2009, 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msetten

It is indeed a combined Dutch/French/Italian release. This is very annoying. The back only shows DTS HD, without HR or MA. If I had known, I would have ordered the UK release. As the package is open now, I cannot return it.

@robertc88: my Blu-Ray player is a PS3 which showed the DTS-HD HR which goes as MPCM to my receiver.

(Sorry for posting in the wrong forums, I wasn't aware there were separate forums for US and EU releases).

its alright, you just caused a mass panic

*TIMMIE* · 04-15-2009, 05:47 AM

It's true. In Europe there are 2 versions. The UK/Scandinavia/Germany get a DTS HD MA, while all other countries get a DTS Hi Res track (@ 3mbps). This seems to be a trend with cheapy Fox.

I have made a list with all known affected releases vs countries. Planet of the Apes is not only affected in the Netherlands, but in f.e. France too. More titles to come.

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=94736

XSilentCobraX · 04-15-2009, 06:10 AM

Hmm funny thing is this happend with my copy of street kings aswell, said DTS HD MA on the back, in the menues, but did the movie play in it? no, it was DTS HD HR

saprano · 04-15-2009, 06:14 AM

Did you see this thread below? https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=94736

EDIT- already posted above.

XSilentCobraX · 04-15-2009, 06:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saprano

Did you see this thread below? https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=94736

EDIT- OP of that thread already posted.

Hmm but why does it say DTS HD MA in the menu aswell? thast one big ****ing mistake then :S

seigneur_rayden · 04-15-2009, 08:23 AM

OP, U got me so scared

I was like what the heck is wrong with Fox!!!
Then I read the US release is different. I feel Ur pain though my friend.

msetten · 04-15-2009, 08:47 AM

And on top of this, an order I had for this with a online shop that I cancelled a couple of days ago (as it would be cheaper in a local shop) seems now to have been shipped after all. So now, I have to return that order which will cost me some shipping costs.

And then to know that my first order for this was with amazon.co.uk, but seeing that it was much more expensive there than getting it in my own country, I cancelled that one as well

If only I hadn't been looking for the best bargain, I would have gotten the UK version with DTS-HD MA

*TIMMIE* · 04-15-2009, 11:04 AM

pssst

You can always sell your Dutch copy, and keep/buy the UK version.

Check Play.com for example.

Scorxpion · 04-15-2009, 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by msetten

I just got my copy of the X-Men Trilogy here in the Netherlands for only 39.99 euros (about $53). It is six discs in one pack, with a separate plastic cover that slides over the pack to keep it together. And it seems to be region free as the back shows the icons ABC.

I watched the first movie today, and it looks fantastic. The only thing I noticed that is kind of worrying is that my PS3 says that the audio is DTS-HD HR and not DTS-HD MA. And its bitrate is 'only' 3.0Mb. The same goes for X-2 and The Last Stand.

So it seems we don't get any uncompressed sound with this X-Men Trilogy. That is really a shame!! Why Fox, Why????

i Hope we will have an answer because this is true about Quantum of Solace released in middle east By the Distributor ROTANA and some of Disney titles like the first part of Chronicles of Narnia whereas The second part is DTSHDMA

Damage Inc. · 05-11-2009, 07:07 PM

Damn, I almost bought it because of that price.
Now I see why it's not like 20-30 Euros per film as usual.
Because it's a "cheap" release!

Did you see 'The Godfather' in The Netherlands? It's like 80-90 EUROS!
I saw it like a week or two ago, and I can still not get over it...

04-14-2009, 06:34 PM	#1
msetten Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray collection:93	X-Men Trilogy with DTS-HD HR instead of MA I just got my copy of the X-Men Trilogy here in the Netherlands for only 39.99 euros (about $53). It is six discs in one pack, with a separate plastic cover that slides over the pack to keep it together. And it seems to be region free as the back shows the icons ABC. I watched the first movie today, and it looks fantastic. The only thing I noticed that is kind of worrying is that my PS3 says that the audio is DTS-HD HR and not DTS-HD MA. And its bitrate is 'only' 3.0Mb. The same goes for X-2 and The Last Stand. So it seems we don't get any uncompressed sound with this X-Men Trilogy. That is really a shame!! Why Fox, Why????

04-15-2009, 05:47 AM	#12
TIMMIE Expert Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Netherlands Blu-ray collection:187 Trading Score:7	It's true. In Europe there are 2 versions. The UK/Scandinavia/Germany get a DTS HD MA, while all other countries get a DTS Hi Res track (@ 3mbps). This seems to be a trend with cheapy Fox. I have made a list with all known affected releases vs countries. Planet of the Apes is not only affected in the Netherlands, but in f.e. France too. More titles to come. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=94736 Last edited by TIMMIE; 04-15-2009 at 05:59 AM.

04-15-2009, 06:14 AM	#14
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Did you see this thread below? https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=94736 EDIT- already posted above. Last edited by saprano; 04-15-2009 at 06:16 AM.

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Rantlers Special Member Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:USA 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:114 Trading Score:86	This very well could just be limited to the Netherlands. I know Fox released the Planet of The Apes Quintology with only DTS-HD HR there, but DTS-HD MA everywhere else. Not sure the reasoning why...

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bizarro Expert Member Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Belgium Blu-ray collection:4 Blu-ray reviews:2	i've heard that the uk version and the us version gets hd ma while the euro countries (France,Spain,the Netherlands,italy...) get hr because of the additional languages tracks there isn't room for dts hd ma. they've done the same with quantum of solace, the box says hd ma but it is really dts hr

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jw Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2007 Location:USA Trading Score:519	This IS NOT the US release, he had the wrong forum

04-14-2009, 07:40 PM	#10
msetten Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray collection:93	It is indeed a combined Dutch/French/Italian release. This is very annoying. The back only shows DTS HD, without HR or MA. If I had known, I would have ordered the UK release. As the package is open now, I cannot return it. @robertc88: my Blu-Ray player is a PS3 which showed the DTS-HD HR which goes as MPCM to my receiver. (Sorry for posting in the wrong forums, I wasn't aware there were separate forums for US and EU releases).

04-15-2009, 06:10 AM	#13
XSilentCobraX Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:264 Blu-ray reviews:135	Hmm funny thing is this happend with my copy of street kings aswell, said DTS HD MA on the back, in the menues, but did the movie play in it? no, it was DTS HD HR

04-15-2009, 08:23 AM	#16
seigneur_rayden Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:1097 Blu-ray reviews: 12	OP, U got me so scared I was like what the heck is wrong with Fox!!! Then I read the US release is different. I feel Ur pain though my friend.

04-15-2009, 08:47 AM	#17
msetten Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:The Netherlands Blu-ray collection:93	And on top of this, an order I had for this with a online shop that I cancelled a couple of days ago (as it would be cheaper in a local shop) seems now to have been shipped after all. So now, I have to return that order which will cost me some shipping costs. And then to know that my first order for this was with amazon.co.uk, but seeing that it was much more expensive there than getting it in my own country, I cancelled that one as well If only I hadn't been looking for the best bargain, I would have gotten the UK version with DTS-HD MA

04-15-2009, 11:04 AM	#18
TIMMIE Expert Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Netherlands Blu-ray collection:187 Trading Score:7	pssst You can always sell your Dutch copy, and keep/buy the UK version. Check Play.com for example.

05-11-2009, 07:07 PM	#20
Damage Inc. Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jan 2009 Location:The Netherlands 4K collection:3 Blu-ray collection:384 DVD collection:5	Damn, I almost bought it because of that price. Now I see why it's not like 20-30 Euros per film as usual. Because it's a "cheap" release! Did you see 'The Godfather' in The Netherlands? It's like 80-90 EUROS! I saw it like a week or two ago, and I can still not get over it...

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