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edubb5 · 06-30-2009, 03:51 PM

I have the Pioneer pro 111fd and I love it! I have been playing around with the picture modes for about a month now and have passed over 200 hours of usage. I'm finding myself liking the isf modes sometime, but when switching to the Optimum mode, It just blows the isf settings away depending on content. "Like BARAKA" Is anybody else seeing this on these displays?
These TV's are dope because they look better and better the more you put hours on them!!

saprano · 06-30-2009, 03:58 PM

Yes they're like fine wine

You bought control cal? i think the ISF modes, day and night, are actually suppose to look better than any other setting.

edubb5 · 06-30-2009, 04:49 PM

Yea, I got Control Cal! And the isf modes do look good until you pop in something like Baraka and then Optimum mode blows it away....

~Guru~ · 06-30-2009, 05:11 PM

I am dying to get Control Cal but I am afraid to mess it all up since I am not savvy at these things...

Is it easy and do they come with game mode settings as well

edubb5 · 06-30-2009, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Guru~

I am dying to get Control Cal but I am afraid to mess it all up since I am not savvy at these things...

Is it easy and do they come with game mode settings as well

I was the same about Control Cal but it was easy as F---! isf day, night, and Auto work into the other settings.

ShockWave · 06-30-2009, 05:38 PM

Just curious. Do you just put controlcal on your pc then hook it up to your monitor? I really havent looked into this program yet.

jmgag03 · 06-30-2009, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave

Just curious. Do you just put controlcal on your pc then hook it up to your monitor? I really havent looked into this program yet.

ControlCal.com is where you can find stuff (look here). Turbe is very helpful and actually followed up with me a couple times after I had paid but hadn't download the software.

If you own a 141 and you haven't had it professionally calibrated you need to do this as soon as possible to be getting the best out of your TV. It was an incredible improvement to the PQ of my TV. I can't recommend it highly enough.

Edit*- Yes you do install it on your computer and hook the TV up to your computer.

edubb5 · 06-30-2009, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave

Just curious. Do you just put controlcal on your pc then hook it up to your monitor? I really havent looked into this program yet.

Yes, it is easy as 1,2,3! Just go to the website and it will walk you threw

Mike2060 · 06-30-2009, 07:58 PM

There's something wrong with Optimum blowing away the ISF modes. I think OP should have bought a cheap LCD, left it in torch mode and saved himself a lot of money.

wafi · 06-30-2009, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike2060

There's something wrong with Optimum blowing away the ISF modes. I think OP should have bought a cheap LCD, left it in torch mode and saved himself a lot of money.

To each his own! I personally am partial to PERFORMANCE with Color @ -4, Contrast @ 35 and everything else at 0.

ControlCAL · 07-01-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by saprano

Yes they're like fine wine

OK, I need to quote you

Porfie · 07-01-2009, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by edubb5

I have the Pioneer pro 111fd and I love it! I have been playing around with the picture modes for about a month now and have passed over 200 hours of usage. I'm finding myself liking the isf modes sometime, but when switching to the Optimum mode, It just blows the isf settings away depending on content. "Like BARAKA" Is anybody else seeing this on these displays?
These TV's are dope because they look better and better the more you put hours on them!!

I agree with you 100% I know pure and the isf settings are the best, and for some movies Like Benjamin Button they make the movie look stunning. I prefer optimum as well cause they make the picture pop and unlike lcds the black levels remain dark and you get this amazing 3D like effect. Some people hate optimum mode, because it torches the image, but I could care less what a movie should look like, it's what looks good to me and my family that matters. To each his own this Tv is just an amazing tv, and will give you the best picture no matter what settings you choose

uniquetreatone · 07-01-2009, 08:30 PM

Before I brought my elite last year I usually watched everything on a vivid mode.After I broke the panel in, I figured I might as well give pure mode a try.I really had to force myself not to change it the first couple of days because compared to perfomance or optimum mode pure was really dull looking.I can say after a week I was totally use to it and pure was the only mode I used.That is until I got ControlCal and activated the ISF modes and now ISF day/night are the only modes I use.My kids are even use to it now(they are watching Pinocchio as we speak in isf day).I would tell anyone to give the ISF modes a try atleast for a week to see if you can become accustom to them.If not it's your panel,enjoy it anyway you like.

ShockWave · 07-01-2009, 08:56 PM

What I can't figure out is, if I was to use controlcal wouldn't I need the proper tools to calibrate it? Don't the pros use a eye they attach to your tv and use the lighting in your home that will tell what settings to use?

Are most of you just eying all your settings or using other settings that have been posted? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come to your home and calibrate it for it's natural settings?

SumSuperman · 07-01-2009, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave

What I can't figure out is, if I was to use controlcal wouldn't I need the proper tools to calibrate it? Don't the pros use a eye they attach to your tv and use the lighting in your home that will tell what settings to use?

Are most of you just eying all your settings or using other settings that have been posted? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come to your home and calibrate it for it's natural settings?

A professional calibration would be the best, but ControlCal does allow you to make adjustments using offsets provided by D-Nice that improve the picture. I don't have the money right now for a pro calibration, so using ControlCal and D-Nice's offsets my picture improved quite a bit. Whites are now much whiter. Before using the offsets whites appeared more yellow.

coolmilo · 07-01-2009, 09:52 PM

To add to what SumSuperman is suggesting: I used ControlCal to configure the ISF Day/Night settings in my Kuro 111-FD and it made an improvement over the standard options. Next, I had my Kuro calibrated by one of the country's best ISF calibrators. The Pro-ISF calibration resulted in a huge improvement in my display. DNICE's settings are close, but no cigar.

DNICE does provide a very good service.

ShockWave · 07-01-2009, 10:10 PM

OK that is what I figured, thanks guys for the input. D-Nice settings people seem to be happy with. But he could not possibly have a setting for everyone's home. I really want mine calibrated to my specific home lighting.

I also found out that all the Elite models have the ISF setting menu when you hook your TV to a router via internet. But you have to have a password. I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find it.

I think I am going to stay out of it and hire someone when I have the money.

wafi · 07-01-2009, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by coolmilo

To add to what SumSuperman is suggesting: I used ControlCal to configure the ISF Day/Night settings in my Kuro 111-FD and it made an improvement over the standard options. Next, I had my Kuro calibrated by one of the country's best ISF calibrators. The Pro-ISF calibration resulted in a huge improvement in my display. DNICE's settings are close, but no cigar.

DNICE does provide a very good service.

CM huge favor to ask....anyway you can take two pics...one in ISF Day mode and one in Perf mode. I would really like to see the diff between the two before I get it calibrated.

ControlCAL · 07-02-2009, 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ShockWave

I also found out that all the Elite models have the ISF setting menu when you hook your TV to a router via internet. But you have to have a password. I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find it.

That's only on the Monitors (i.e. PRO-141FD etc) and the Web Interface only has a few controls, not the important ones needed for a proper calibration.

ShockWave · 07-02-2009, 03:03 PM

What tools do I need if I use controlcal to get the grayscale, color gamut and gamma curve to all line?

06-30-2009, 03:51 PM	#1
edubb5 Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:LEXINGTON KY Home Theater Gallery:24	Pioneer 9g plasmas! I have the Pioneer pro 111fd and I love it! I have been playing around with the picture modes for about a month now and have passed over 200 hours of usage. I'm finding myself liking the isf modes sometime, but when switching to the Optimum mode, It just blows the isf settings away depending on content. "Like BARAKA" Is anybody else seeing this on these displays? These TV's are dope because they look better and better the more you put hours on them!!

07-01-2009, 09:52 PM	#16
coolmilo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Silicon Valley Home Theater Gallery:16 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	To add to what SumSuperman is suggesting: I used ControlCal to configure the ISF Day/Night settings in my Kuro 111-FD and it made an improvement over the standard options. Next, I had my Kuro calibrated by one of the country's best ISF calibrators. The Pro-ISF calibration resulted in a huge improvement in my display. DNICE's settings are close, but no cigar. DNICE does provide a very good service. Last edited by coolmilo; 07-01-2009 at 09:56 PM.

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06-30-2009, 03:58 PM	#2
saprano Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Bronx, New York Blu-ray collection:495 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	Yes they're like fine wine You bought control cal? i think the ISF modes, day and night, are actually suppose to look better than any other setting.

06-30-2009, 04:49 PM	#3
edubb5 Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:LEXINGTON KY Home Theater Gallery:24	Yea, I got Control Cal! And the isf modes do look good until you pop in something like Baraka and then Optimum mode blows it away....

06-30-2009, 05:11 PM	#4
~Guru~ Member Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Jersey	I am dying to get Control Cal but I am afraid to mess it all up since I am not savvy at these things... Is it easy and do they come with game mode settings as well

06-30-2009, 05:38 PM	#6
ShockWave Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Orlando, FL GO GATORS Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:119 Blu-ray reviews:1	Just curious. Do you just put controlcal on your pc then hook it up to your monitor? I really havent looked into this program yet.

06-30-2009, 07:58 PM	#9
Mike2060 Banned Member since:Feb 2009 Blu-ray collection:19 Blu-ray reviews:1	There's something wrong with Optimum blowing away the ISF modes. I think OP should have bought a cheap LCD, left it in torch mode and saved himself a lot of money.

07-01-2009, 08:30 PM	#13
uniquetreatone Active Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:N.Y. Blu-ray collection:560	Before I brought my elite last year I usually watched everything on a vivid mode.After I broke the panel in, I figured I might as well give pure mode a try.I really had to force myself not to change it the first couple of days because compared to perfomance or optimum mode pure was really dull looking.I can say after a week I was totally use to it and pure was the only mode I used.That is until I got ControlCal and activated the ISF modes and now ISF day/night are the only modes I use.My kids are even use to it now(they are watching Pinocchio as we speak in isf day).I would tell anyone to give the ISF modes a try atleast for a week to see if you can become accustom to them.If not it's your panel,enjoy it anyway you like.

07-01-2009, 08:56 PM	#14
ShockWave Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Orlando, FL GO GATORS Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:119 Blu-ray reviews:1	What I can't figure out is, if I was to use controlcal wouldn't I need the proper tools to calibrate it? Don't the pros use a eye they attach to your tv and use the lighting in your home that will tell what settings to use? Are most of you just eying all your settings or using other settings that have been posted? Wouldn't it be better to have someone come to your home and calibrate it for it's natural settings?

07-01-2009, 10:10 PM	#17
ShockWave Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Orlando, FL GO GATORS Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:119 Blu-ray reviews:1	OK that is what I figured, thanks guys for the input. D-Nice settings people seem to be happy with. But he could not possibly have a setting for everyone's home. I really want mine calibrated to my specific home lighting. I also found out that all the Elite models have the ISF setting menu when you hook your TV to a router via internet. But you have to have a password. I am sure if you tried hard enough you could find it. I think I am going to stay out of it and hire someone when I have the money.

07-02-2009, 03:03 PM	#20
ShockWave Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Mar 2009 Location:Orlando, FL GO GATORS Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:119 Blu-ray reviews:1	What tools do I need if I use controlcal to get the grayscale, color gamut and gamma curve to all line?

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