Image Resolution

[Fapcha25]

Hy Guys, I'm from Brazil and I'm new with Blue Ray...

I've just got a Blue Ray player and a Full HD LCD TV and started watching

movies and Blue Ray. And there's something I would like to know:

Does the Camera Recorder (the cameras used to record the movie)

influences the image we got and watch in Blue Ray?

In other words, even in Blue Ray and Full HD, the newer the movie the better the Blue Ray image, and the older the movie the worse the Blue Ray image we'll got?

OR this has nothing to do?

Thanx guys

[Fapcha25]

Hy Guys, I'm from Brazil and I'm new with Blue Ray...
I've just got a Blue Ray player and a Full HD LCD TV and started watching
movies and Blue Ray. And there's something I would like to know:

Is there anything like a camera which records the last and newest movies already in Full High Definition, 1080p?
Have the newest movies and TV Shows been recorded
in 1080p CamRecorders?

Does that influences on the image we got in blue ray?
In other words, even in Blue Ray and Full HD, the newer the movie the better the Blue Ray image, and the older the movie the worse the Blue Ray image we'll got?
OR this has nothing to do?

Thanx guys

[Suntory_Times]

Some are shot using HD cameras (eg: hellboy 2 and Knowing), however most films are shot using 35mm film. 35mm film given a proper transfer have the ability to look a lot better then a film shot with a HD camera, albeit there is the introduction of possible 'problems' like film damage etc. The biggest thing to remember is 35mm has an equivalent resolution much higher then a HD camera has.

If you do a search you'll find this question has been asked and answered many times.

[RocShemp]

And most digital cameras used for movies shoot in 2K (higher resolution that 1080p) and there are a few 4K cameras as well.

And, as Suntory_Times mentioned, 35mm also offers more resolution than 1080p. I think the only show that I know of that's shot in 16mm is Burn Notice. Are there any others?

I wasn't aware Hellboy II was shot digitaly. I thought it was shot in 35mm like its predecesor. I learned something new.

EDIT: It seems G.I. Joe: The Rise Of Cobra was shot in 35 mm and 4K Redcode RAW using Panavision Cameras and Red One Cameras.

[Suntory_Times]

In all honesty I must say for normal theaters, 1080p is generally 'enough', that is it will still look very detailed (star wars episode 2 and 3 aren't even 1080p but where incredibly detailed at the cinemas). I think resolution is not nearly as important as other factors that play there part.

[RocShemp]

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

In all honesty I must say for normal theaters, 1080p is generally 'enough', that is it will still look very detailed (star wars episode 2 and 3 aren't even 1080p but where incredibly detailed at the cinemas). I think resolution is not nearly as important as other factors that play there part.

Episode 2 and 3 were 1080p.

In 2000 George Lucas announced that Episode II of the Star Wars Prequel Trilogy would be the first major motion picture to be shot 100% digitally. Sony and Panavision had teamed up to develop the High Definition 24P camera that Lucas would use to accomplish this and thus the first CineAlta camera was born: the Sony HDW-F900 (also called the Panavision HD-900F after being "panavised").

For Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith the more advanced Sony HDC-F950 was used, with higher resolution and better color reproduction than its predecessor. The film was cropped to a 2.35:1 aspect ratio from its native 16:9 frame. As a result only 817 of the 1080 vertical pixels were actually used; but there is an anamorphic adaptor lens from Canon, which allows shooting in 2.35:1 without losing any pixels. Manuel Huerga's Salvador (2006 film) is the first movie shot with this adaptor.

Source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CineAlta

Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones
HDCAM (1080p/24) (source format)

Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121765/technical

Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge of the Sith
HDCAM SR (1080p/24) (source format)

Source: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0121766/technical

[#Darren]

The upcoming Universal Soldier 3 will be shot of digital cameras.

[Happy_Evil_Dude]

I don't really have the time to get into a lenghty answer but let me just say this:

As you put it, "it has nothing to do". Older movies can look absolutely stunning on Blu-Ray (see Casablanca) while newer movies can look, well, not that great (see House Of Flying Daggers). So it doesn't have anything to do with how old a movie is, but the quality of the source master and the work done by the company in charge of making the Blu-Ray.

As for 1080p camcorders, yeah they exist, but movies aren't typically shot with them. Actually movies are most often shot with cameras that have a higher native resolution than 1080p.

[Fapcha25]

Originally Posted by Happy_Evil_Dude

I don't really have the time to get into a lenghty answer but let me just say this:

As you put it, "it has nothing to do". Older movies can look absolutely stunning on Blu-Ray (see Casablanca) while newer movies can look, well, not that great (see House Of Flying Daggers). So it doesn't have anything to do with how old a movie is, but the quality of the source master and the work done by the company in charge of making the Blu-Ray.

As for 1080p camcorders, yeah they exist, but movies aren't typically shot with them. Actually movies are most often shot with cameras that have a higher native resolution than 1080p.

Originally Posted by Suntory_Times

In all honesty I must say for normal theaters, 1080p is generally 'enough', that is it will still look very detailed (star wars episode 2 and 3 aren't even 1080p but where incredibly detailed at the cinemas). I think resolution is not nearly as important as other factors that play there part.

Man, first of all, thank you very much for your answers.
So, in other words, in the end:

1) The most important thing is how good the job ("transformation to Blue Ray") made by the company is, and;
2) The most cameras used to shoot the movies have already a higher definition than Blue Ray, higher than 1080p?

Is that it?

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Fapcha25

Man, first of all, thank you very much for your answers.
So, in other words, in the end:

1) The most important thing is how good the job ("transformation to Blue Ray") made by the company is, and;
2) The most cameras used to shoot the movies have already a higher definition than Blue Ray, higher than 1080p?

Is that it?

Correct on both.

Also, the condition the film is in plays a part...... if the master is damaged/dirty, then they can only do so much. Film degrades over time if not properly stored etc.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Fapcha25

Man, first of all, thank you very much for your answers.
So, in other words, in the end:

1) The most important thing is how good the job ("transformation to Blue Ray") made by the company is, and;

Yes, transfer is a critical step that require attention of an expert to ensure highest quality. I hope there would be some sort of industry guidelines for this process.

[QUOTE]2) The most cameras used to shoot the movies have already a higher definition than Blue Ray, higher than 1080p?

Is that it? [/QUOTE

Yes. and also movie cameras traditionally have higher dynamic range and produce a pleasing picture to most people.

Hope that this would change with new evolving digital technology.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Fapcha25

Hy Guys, I'm from Brazil and I'm new with Blue Ray...

I've just got a Blue Ray player and a Full HD LCD TV and started watching

movies and Blue Ray. And there's something I would like to know:

Does the Camera Recorder (the cameras used to record the movie)

influences the image we got and watch in Blue Ray?

In other words, even in Blue Ray and Full HD, the newer the movie the better the Blue Ray image, and the older the movie the worse the Blue Ray image we'll got?

OR this has nothing to do?

Thanx guys

The newer movies filmed in digital projection has the advantage in terms of picture quality.

[RiseDarthVader]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

The newer movies filmed in digital projection has the advantage in terms of picture quality.

What? lol
It all depends on how the movie was shot and what the condition of the negative, master or prints are in.

[koontz1973]

The oldest film given the loving care it deserves can look like it was shot yesterday. Zulu is my BD reference film and it was filmed in the 60's, looks better than most newer films.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by RiseDarthVader

What? lol
It all depends on how the movie was shot and what the condition of the negative, master or prints are in.

Yes Lord Vader, I'm no match for your Star Trek Computer Minded brain of yours. Please forgive me your highness. : Chugs another 24oz of Budlight:

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

The newer movies filmed in digital projection has the advantage in terms of picture quality.

Not always. This depends on the digital cinema camera they have used. I think generally digital cameras still catching up with older film cameras. Film cameras have much higher resolution than 2K and also dynamic range.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by syncguy

Not always. This depends on the digital cinema camera they have used. I think generally digital cameras still catching up with older film cameras. Film cameras have much higher resolution than 2K and also dynamic range.

Fine then you're right, lecture me with your Bill Gates brain

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Blu-ray Fanatic

Fine then you're right, lecture me with your Bill Gates brain

Thanks.

[Blu-ray Fanatic]

Originally Posted by Fapcha25

Hy Guys, I'm from Brazil and I'm new with Blue Ray...

I've just got a Blue Ray player and a Full HD LCD TV and started watching

movies and Blue Ray. And there's something I would like to know:

Does the Camera Recorder (the cameras used to record the movie)

influences the image we got and watch in Blue Ray?

In other words, even in Blue Ray and Full HD, the newer the movie the better the Blue Ray image, and the older the movie the worse the Blue Ray image we'll got?

OR this has nothing to do?

Thanx guys

I almost forgot to mention. This is the proper spelling for blu-ray and not Blue Ray.

[syncguy]

Originally Posted by Fapcha25

Does the Camera Recorder (the cameras used to record the movie)

influences the image we got and watch in Blue Ray?

In other words, even in Blue Ray and Full HD, the newer the movie the better the Blue Ray image, and the older the movie the worse the Blue Ray image we'll got?

OR this has nothing to do?

Thanx guys

The quality of the (celluloid) film cameras largely depends on the film stock. Newer film stock has higher resolution, less grain and dynamic range in comparison to older films, so they will produce better results. Also post processing plays a significant role, DI (digital Intermediate) and transfer.