Panasonic Blu-Ray w/ Yamaha Receiver - NO VIDEO - Blu-ray Forum

albracco · 10-19-2009, 02:50 PM

I recently purchased brand-new, a Panasonic DMP-BD60 Blue-ray player. If I connect it via HDMI cable to my Yamaha Receiver (RX-V565), I get sound, but no Video on my Panasonic HDTV (connected via HDMI to the receiver). Anything else connected to the receiver works fine. If I connect the blu-ray player directly into the TV, bypassing the receiver, I do get video.

So, the receiver works and the blu-ray player works, except when they are connected together. I have checked & swapped all cables, tried every available HDMI port, etc. I have updated the firmware on the Panasonic blu-ray to the latest version. The Yamaha is already up-to-date.

When I have them connected together, and I turn on the blu-ray player, it goes through it's initial startup and flashes HDMI on the LCD, indicating it has detected an HDMI device to connect with. Yet, I get audio, but no video on the TV.

The TV is not 1080P, as it is 3 years old. Do I have a resolution matching issue?

Anyone ever seen anything like this or have any suggestions?

TIA,

Al

groove93 · 10-19-2009, 03:38 PM

http://static.tigerdirect.com/pdf/RX-V565_manual.pdf

Check around page 46

albracco · 10-19-2009, 03:53 PM

I've have read the manual. The only thing that possibly applies is the mention of video signals not being supported, but other devices display video properly.

crackinhedz · 10-19-2009, 03:55 PM

try turning 24fps off in the player, perhaps the receiver is having trouble with this?

albracco · 10-19-2009, 04:08 PM

I will try that. Thanks.

albracco · 10-24-2009, 01:22 AM

The 24p was already turned off.

My guess was that the receiver was detecting the blu-ray at 1080p and outputting the video at the same resolution, which the TV won't support (max 720p). I changed the HDMI resolution on the Panasonic blu-ray from auto to 720p. I changed the receiver settings for HDMI resolution to 720p. But still no picture on the TV.

Anyone have any other ideas?

TY

Blu-Dog · 10-24-2009, 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by albracco

The 24p was already turned off.

My guess was that the receiver was detecting the blu-ray at 1080p and outputting the video at the same resolution, which the TV won't support (max 720p). I changed the HDMI resolution on the Panasonic blu-ray from auto to 720p. I changed the receiver settings for HDMI resolution to 720p. But still no picture on the TV.

Anyone have any other ideas?

TY

Are you getting any audio?

Does the TV show any signs of getting a signal?

albracco · 10-25-2009, 12:37 AM

Yes, audio works.

Picture: nothing but a black screen.

djc11369 · 10-25-2009, 01:57 AM

That's easy, just go out and buy a new 1080p TV. Look at it as doing your part to stimulate the economy.

Just kidding of course. Did you try displaying the input signal information on page 23 of your manual? It says it will display HDMI errors if there are any.

albracco · 10-25-2009, 08:57 PM

Between the DVD player, Receiver and HDMI card for the TV, I've already spent over $700 towards stimulating our economy. All because my old DVD player broke!

Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried what you suggested. It does not show any errors, but it does show the video in/out as 1080P, even though I have changed the blu-ray settings to supposedly force it to 720p.

When I turn on the blu-ray, I can notice a very slight flicker of white pixels near the bottom of the tv screen, but then nothing - black screen.

Do you think I'm on the right track that the receiver is outputting in 1080p even though I have set it to use 720p? And that is why the TV doesn't have a picture?

BTW, when I do the HDMI error test on HDMI1 (my HD cable box), it shows HDMI video in/out at 1080i.

djc11369 · 10-25-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Do you think I'm on the right track that the receiver is outputting in 1080p even though I have set it to use 720p? And that is why the TV doesn't have a picture?

Yes, it's a receiver issue/setting. I have to admit the manual is a little confusing. If you go to the troubleshooting section it sounds like you set the resolution under the advanced setup menu, init, video (page 45). Not sure if maybe you set the upscaling resolution figuring it was the correct one (indicated on page 42). Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I get from it.

crackinhedz · 10-26-2009, 12:25 AM

does your cable box work through your receiver?

did you set up the receiver to send HDMI video out of the connection your using with the bluray player?

Standby Through = On? (pg.42 manual)

albracco · 10-26-2009, 12:57 AM

crackinhedz: yes, yes, yes

djc11369:You're right about where I set the 720p, but that's because in advanced setup, you can't actually change the resolution, just choose "init", which supposedly puts the settings back to the default.

djc11369 · 10-26-2009, 01:20 AM

This is a interesting one.

Did you set Mon.Chk to skip?

crackinhedz · 10-26-2009, 01:46 AM

Found this little tid bit in the manual under trouble shooting, not sure it helps at all:

Quote:

-An incorrect resolution is selected in "HDMI Resolution", when the television is connected to HDMI AV OUT terminals. While stopped, press and hold [stop button] and [play button] on the main unit at the same time for more than 5 seconds to cancel this setting. Set the item again. However, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, and DTS-HD audio are not output in bitstream. To output the bitstream, select "Restore Default Settings" to restore the factory presets and make proper settings.

crackinhedz · 10-26-2009, 01:47 AM

you dont have component cables still connected by chance do you?

rpatt · 10-26-2009, 01:56 AM

Maybe your new HDMI card has a problem. Have you tried an HDMI to AVI cable from your receiver to your TV? That's how I had my 720P TV hooked up to my Yamaha and it worked great.

albracco · 10-26-2009, 12:40 PM

djc: yes, monitor check is set to skip. You have to do that in order to be able to change the upscaling resolution.

Crack: All component cables have been removed. Is that excerpt from the blu-ray manual?

rpatt: The HDMI card is fine, as the cable box through the receiver to the TV works fine. And I get video on the TV from the blu-ray player if I connect the blu-ray directly to the TV HDMI card (bypassing the receiver).

Al

crackinhedz · 10-26-2009, 02:45 PM

my last and final "guess" would be the bluray player option: RGB - Normal or Enhanced.

I know in the past, yamaha model receivers had trouble with extended RGB limits, perhaps you have it on enhanced and needs to be normal??

again, just a guess. Other than that, sounds like youve tried just about everything that would cause these symptoms.

albracco · 10-26-2009, 02:56 PM

Crack: I'll check that. That user manual excerpt in your previous message - where was that from?

Thanks for all the help!

Al

10-19-2009, 02:50 PM	#1
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	Panasonic Blu-Ray w/ Yamaha Receiver - NO VIDEO I recently purchased brand-new, a Panasonic DMP-BD60 Blue-ray player. If I connect it via HDMI cable to my Yamaha Receiver (RX-V565), I get sound, but no Video on my Panasonic HDTV (connected via HDMI to the receiver). Anything else connected to the receiver works fine. If I connect the blu-ray player directly into the TV, bypassing the receiver, I do get video. So, the receiver works and the blu-ray player works, except when they are connected together. I have checked & swapped all cables, tried every available HDMI port, etc. I have updated the firmware on the Panasonic blu-ray to the latest version. The Yamaha is already up-to-date. When I have them connected together, and I turn on the blu-ray player, it goes through it's initial startup and flashes HDMI on the LCD, indicating it has detected an HDMI device to connect with. Yet, I get audio, but no video on the TV. The TV is not 1080P, as it is 3 years old. Do I have a resolution matching issue? Anyone ever seen anything like this or have any suggestions? TIA, Al Last edited by albracco; 10-19-2009 at 03:37 PM.

10-25-2009, 08:57 PM	#10
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	Between the DVD player, Receiver and HDMI card for the TV, I've already spent over $700 towards stimulating our economy. All because my old DVD player broke! Thanks for the suggestion. I have tried what you suggested. It does not show any errors, but it does show the video in/out as 1080P, even though I have changed the blu-ray settings to supposedly force it to 720p. When I turn on the blu-ray, I can notice a very slight flicker of white pixels near the bottom of the tv screen, but then nothing - black screen. Do you think I'm on the right track that the receiver is outputting in 1080p even though I have set it to use 720p? And that is why the TV doesn't have a picture? BTW, when I do the HDMI error test on HDMI1 (my HD cable box), it shows HDMI video in/out at 1080i. Last edited by albracco; 10-25-2009 at 09:04 PM.

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10-19-2009, 03:38 PM	#2
groove93 Expert Member Member since:Dec 2008 Home Theater Gallery:74 4K collection:44 Blu-ray collection:162	http://static.tigerdirect.com/pdf/RX-V565_manual.pdf Check around page 46

10-19-2009, 03:53 PM	#3
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	I've have read the manual. The only thing that possibly applies is the mention of video signals not being supported, but other devices display video properly.

10-19-2009, 03:55 PM	#4
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	try turning 24fps off in the player, perhaps the receiver is having trouble with this?

10-19-2009, 04:08 PM	#5
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	I will try that. Thanks.

10-24-2009, 01:22 AM	#6
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	The 24p was already turned off. My guess was that the receiver was detecting the blu-ray at 1080p and outputting the video at the same resolution, which the TV won't support (max 720p). I changed the HDMI resolution on the Panasonic blu-ray from auto to 720p. I changed the receiver settings for HDMI resolution to 720p. But still no picture on the TV. Anyone have any other ideas? TY

10-25-2009, 12:37 AM	#8
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	Yes, audio works. Picture: nothing but a black screen.

10-25-2009, 01:57 AM	#9
djc11369 Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:NY	That's easy, just go out and buy a new 1080p TV. Look at it as doing your part to stimulate the economy. Just kidding of course. Did you try displaying the input signal information on page 23 of your manual? It says it will display HDMI errors if there are any.

10-26-2009, 12:25 AM	#12
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	does your cable box work through your receiver? did you set up the receiver to send HDMI video out of the connection your using with the bluray player? Standby Through = On? (pg.42 manual)

10-26-2009, 12:57 AM	#13
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	crackinhedz: yes, yes, yes djc11369:You're right about where I set the 720p, but that's because in advanced setup, you can't actually change the resolution, just choose "init", which supposedly puts the settings back to the default.

10-26-2009, 01:20 AM	#14
djc11369 Active Member Member since:Apr 2009 Location:NY	This is a interesting one. Did you set Mon.Chk to skip?

10-26-2009, 01:47 AM	#16
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	you dont have component cables still connected by chance do you?

10-26-2009, 01:56 AM	#17
rpatt Blu-ray Guru Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Aug 2008 Home Theater Gallery:69 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Maybe your new HDMI card has a problem. Have you tried an HDMI to AVI cable from your receiver to your TV? That's how I had my 720P TV hooked up to my Yamaha and it worked great.

10-26-2009, 12:40 PM	#18
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	djc: yes, monitor check is set to skip. You have to do that in order to be able to change the upscaling resolution. Crack: All component cables have been removed. Is that excerpt from the blu-ray manual? rpatt: The HDMI card is fine, as the cable box through the receiver to the TV works fine. And I get video on the TV from the blu-ray player if I connect the blu-ray directly to the TV HDMI card (bypassing the receiver). Al

10-26-2009, 02:45 PM	#19
crackinhedz Super Moderator Member since:Feb 2007 Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:19	my last and final "guess" would be the bluray player option: RGB - Normal or Enhanced. I know in the past, yamaha model receivers had trouble with extended RGB limits, perhaps you have it on enhanced and needs to be normal?? again, just a guess. Other than that, sounds like youve tried just about everything that would cause these symptoms.

10-26-2009, 02:56 PM	#20
albracco Junior Member Member since:Oct 2009	Crack: I'll check that. That user manual excerpt in your previous message - where was that from? Thanks for all the help! Al

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