Opinion in The Patriot release....horrible quality - Blu-ray Forum

grafpt · 12-31-2008, 04:11 AM

I have read the review on here and noticed video was a 4.7. now to me thats a pretty damn good transfer. So I finally purchased it this past week and watched it. I think the video quality is HORRIBLE. The colors are WAY to saturated and the whole movie was unnecessary grainy. And after reading the review on here i had high expectations. Im running a PS3 to 40" 1080p Sony Bravia only 1 month old.

SO i have two questions....

-Is there and possibility of a bad disc? (yes it was THAT bad imo)
im not sure if there is such a thing as that but if their is i will exchange

-Does anyone else agree with my opinion on the disc and that its just a bad transfer in genral

cdot2four · 12-31-2008, 04:13 AM

its a movie i mention as one of the best looking blurays

JJ · 12-31-2008, 04:19 AM

Same here, cdot! It's got crisp detail, powerful colors - beautiful audio. a bit grainy in some parts, but nothing overbearing or distracting to be sure.

ixlegitballinxl · 12-31-2008, 04:21 AM

i thought the patriot looked awesome!

Dotpattern · 12-31-2008, 04:21 AM

The PQ is exceptional. It's possible you haven't calibrated your monitor, and perhaps you have the sharpness turned too far up?

Another possibility is that you equate film grain with poor PQ and were expecting something more along the lines of a movie shot with HD cameras.

McHugh · 12-31-2008, 04:38 AM

Just to throw in my two cents worth but I also think the PQ for The Patriot is pretty good. The red of the British uniforms and the many flags jump out. Considering that it is a historical period piece the director was probably going for color saturation.

hoju3508 · 12-31-2008, 04:40 AM

I thought the PQ is very good.

ixlegitballinxl · 12-31-2008, 04:42 AM

the movie pq might of been underrated due to it being part of the "Free 5 blu-ray movie offer" back in 07

b0bby · 12-31-2008, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grafpt

I have read the review on here and noticed video was a 4.7. now to me thats a pretty damn good transfer. So I finally purchased it this past week and watched it. I think the video quality is HORRIBLE. The colors are WAY to saturated and the whole movie was unnecessary grainy. And after reading the review on here i had high expectations. Im running a PS3 to 40" 1080p Sony Bravia only 1 month old.

SO i have two questions....

-Is there and possibility of a bad disc? (yes it was THAT bad imo)
im not sure if there is such a thing as that but if their is i will exchange

-Does anyone else agree with my opinion on the disc and that its just a bad transfer in genral

calibrate your tv with DVE or something similar. if you have calibrated it already, calibrate it again, and again until this movie looks amazing because it looks pretty amazing on mine. if that doesn't work get some professional calibration, there is nothing horrible about the quality of this movie.

Old Geezer · 12-31-2008, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by b0bby

calibrate your tv with DVE or something similar. if you have calibrated it already, calibrate it again, and again until this movie looks amazing because it looks pretty amazing on mine. if that doesn't work get some professional calibration, there is nothing horrible about the quality of this movie.

+1 I had forgotton how great this movie was untill I saw the Blu version again. It Blu me away.

richieb1971 · 12-31-2008, 12:56 PM

LOL @ all the calibration requests.

If this was about calibration the guy would have a global issue with every disc not just one.

JasonR · 12-31-2008, 01:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richieb1971

LOL @ all the calibration requests.

If this was about calibration the guy would have a global issue with every disc not just one.

Not necessarily true.

Cars can look pretty dang good on an uncalibrated set, where a movie like The Patriot might not.

That said, The Patriot is an outstanding looking movie.

Dotpattern · 12-31-2008, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by richieb1971

LOL @ all the calibration requests.

If this was about calibration the guy would have a global issue with every disc not just one.

The OP's description (colors way too saturated, unnecessarily grainy) doesn't sound like a defective disc.

ScarredLungs · 12-31-2008, 01:45 PM

The PQ is AMAZING!

Enough said

b0bby · 12-31-2008, 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dotpattern

The OP's description (colors way too saturated, unnecessarily grainy) doesn't sound like a defective disc.

well exactly, I based my calibration comments off of the OP's comments about colors and grain. calibration is a serious issue amongst many HDTV owners who have no clue what it is. they normally just naturally eye things out while some don't even bother changing the default settings. some people have sharp turned way up thinking it makes the image sharper, etc. this is clearly a hardware issue either player or tv and not the movie disc.

robertc88 · 12-31-2008, 12:57 PM

Even on my old 50" Tosh 4:3 RPTV running component at 1080i this BD looks impressive! On my Panny display? Priceless!

blujacket · 12-31-2008, 01:26 PM

I think he just doesn't like grain.

JunkBoy · 12-31-2008, 01:47 PM

Since you have a new Sony might you be watching your programming with the tv set to vivid? If so, just google search for some manual settings for your Sony. Get out of the vivid setting if you're using it.

SquidPuppet · 12-31-2008, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JunkBoy

Since you have a new Sony might you be watching your programming with the tv set to vivid? If so, just google search for some manual settings for your Sony. Get out of the vivid setting if you're using it.

+1. My cousin just bought a new XBR and the default was "vivid"

Vivid makes live action look horrible....the colors dont "pop"...the explode is a bad way.

Set it to "cinema" and colors temp to "warm 2"

12-31-2008, 04:11 AM	#1
grafpt Junior Member Member since:Oct 2008 Blu-ray collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:1	Opinion in The Patriot release....horrible quality I have read the review on here and noticed video was a 4.7. now to me thats a pretty damn good transfer. So I finally purchased it this past week and watched it. I think the video quality is HORRIBLE. The colors are WAY to saturated and the whole movie was unnecessary grainy. And after reading the review on here i had high expectations. Im running a PS3 to 40" 1080p Sony Bravia only 1 month old. SO i have two questions.... -Is there and possibility of a bad disc? (yes it was THAT bad imo) im not sure if there is such a thing as that but if their is i will exchange -Does anyone else agree with my opinion on the disc and that its just a bad transfer in genral

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12-31-2008, 04:13 AM	#2
cdot2four Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Metro Detroit PSN:cdot2four Blu-ray collection:158 Blu-ray reviews:23 Trading Score:4	its a movie i mention as one of the best looking blurays

12-31-2008, 04:19 AM	#3
JJ Blu-ray Count Top ranked HT gallery Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Miami, FL Home Theater Gallery:99 4K collection:619 Blu-ray collection:1293 DVD collection:31 Digital collection:5 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:203	Same here, cdot! It's got crisp detail, powerful colors - beautiful audio. a bit grainy in some parts, but nothing overbearing or distracting to be sure.

12-31-2008, 04:21 AM	#4
ixlegitballinxl Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Magic Kingdom, FL Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:631 Trading Score:22	i thought the patriot looked awesome!

12-31-2008, 04:21 AM	#5
Dotpattern Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Southern California 4K collection:407 Blu-ray collection:1505	The PQ is exceptional. It's possible you haven't calibrated your monitor, and perhaps you have the sharpness turned too far up? Another possibility is that you equate film grain with poor PQ and were expecting something more along the lines of a movie shot with HD cameras.

12-31-2008, 04:38 AM	#6
McHugh Active Member Member since:Apr 2008 Location:Calgary, Alberta, Canada 4K collection:35 Blu-ray collection:125	Just to throw in my two cents worth but I also think the PQ for The Patriot is pretty good. The red of the British uniforms and the many flags jump out. Considering that it is a historical period piece the director was probably going for color saturation.

12-31-2008, 04:40 AM	#7
hoju3508 Senior Member Member since:Aug 2008 Location:Austin, TX Blu-ray collection:109	I thought the PQ is very good.

12-31-2008, 04:42 AM	#8
ixlegitballinxl Banned Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Magic Kingdom, FL Home Theater Gallery:7 Blu-ray collection:631 Trading Score:22	the movie pq might of been underrated due to it being part of the "Free 5 blu-ray movie offer" back in 07

12-31-2008, 12:56 PM	#11
richieb1971 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 4K collection:89 Blu-ray collection:706 Trading Score:16	LOL @ all the calibration requests. If this was about calibration the guy would have a global issue with every disc not just one.

12-31-2008, 01:45 PM	#14
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	The PQ is AMAZING! Enough said

12-31-2008, 12:57 PM	#16
robertc88 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007	Even on my old 50" Tosh 4:3 RPTV running component at 1080i this BD looks impressive! On my Panny display? Priceless!

12-31-2008, 01:26 PM	#17
blujacket Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Dayton,Ohio 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:658	I think he just doesn't like grain.

12-31-2008, 01:47 PM	#18
JunkBoy Active Member Member since:Jun 2008 Location:San Diego Home Theater Gallery:38 Blu-ray collection:404	Since you have a new Sony might you be watching your programming with the tv set to vivid? If so, just google search for some manual settings for your Sony. Get out of the vivid setting if you're using it.

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