LG BD-790 Blu Ray player - Blu-ray Forum

JTK · 05-03-2006, 02:21 PM

I've said all along that there be no universal players this year, if ever.

Go to www.dvdboxoffice.com and you will find the LG bd-790 with an 6-27-06 available date.

So much for LG not making BD players. So much for LG making some "universal" player, right?

All as expected.

Direct link: LG BD-790

If you do the currency exchange, you're still looking at a grand or more for this player.

I'm sorry, but who the hell is going to pay a grand plus for an LG player?

I wish the Samsung and LG players were priced competitively at least with the $800 Toshiba player because these three companies are all about the same from where I sit: Second rate.

You have the WAY overpriced $1500 Panasonic player...the days of the RP82 and such are long since past them. Who's honestly going to pay $1500 for Panasonic in the here and now?

I wish the BDA would have something at that entry level besides counting on the PS3 videogame console all the way in November to cover that $500 or so tier.

georgir · 05-03-2006, 05:17 PM

the samsung is $880 and the sony even cheaper here:
http://www.newyorkwholesaleaudiovide...yer-C3692.aspx
i think thats competitive enough with the toshiba highend.
the pioneer elite is also seriously cheaper on that site than the announced $1800 expected price. maybe its too good to be true? does anyone know something about this site's reputation? if they take your money 3 months before the player release and make you wait half an year after the launch before they ship your unit, don't blame me for posting the link

JTK · 05-03-2006, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by georgir

the samsung is $880 and the sony even cheaper here:
http://www.newyorkwholesaleaudiovide...yer-C3692.aspx

Not an authorized dealer. Almost certainly gray market.

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i think thats competitive enough with the toshiba highend.

Not really. You're comparing street price/gray market price/borderline wholesalfe vs. the actual MSRP of the higher end Toshiba.

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the pioneer elite is also seriously cheaper on that site than the announced $1800 expected price.

There are no such things as authorized Pioneer Elite dealers online. I have that communication straight from Pioneer themselves.

Repeat: That is NOT an authorized dealer but almost certainly gray market.

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maybe its too good to be true?

Yes.

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Does anyone know something about this site's reputation? if they take your money 3 months before the player release and make you wait half an year after the launch before they ship your unit, don't blame me for posting the link

The manufacterer's warranty almost certainly will not be acknowledged, especially on PE products. That's the risk you take when you shop from an unauthorized dealer.

zombie · 05-03-2006, 08:54 PM

LOL, LG makes a BD player after all. What a great catch! Can't wait to read the HD DVD trolls responses to this one.

JTK · 05-03-2006, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by nyg

LOL, LG makes a BD player after all. What a great catch! Can't wait to read the HD DVD trolls responses to this one.

Someone is trying to suggest that it's possibly a BR drive of some sort, but there's no way in hell if it's around $800+. It's definitely a player but...is it real?

I'd like to see some kind of authoritative confirmation of this thing, although that's a lot of effort to come up with a completely different product number vs. the original BR player that LG had abandoned a couple of months back...

zombie · 05-03-2006, 09:58 PM

Hopefully LG will confirm this player this week.

hmurchison · 05-06-2006, 06:55 PM

Let me get this straight. Some site I've never heard about lists an LG BD player and I'm supposed to be excited by this?

You guys are seriously clutching for straws. You know it doesn't matter how many companies make BD players I'd venture that I like most of you am looking forward to the PS3 being affordable.

Only a few well heeled individuals are going buy a BD player for $1000 over a PS3 at half the cost. I doubt that Samsung, Panny and Pioneer are even going to manf in quantity knowing that Sony's PS3 is going to slaughter them in price.

Thus its a bit hard to get excited by a phantom BD product at $1000. You could add another 50 models just like it but it's still not going to make a dent equivalent to what the PS3 can and needs to do.

zombie · 05-06-2006, 08:41 PM

Not everyone is a gamer though. The only reason I'll own a PS3 is because my sons like video games. I OTOH would likely never use it. I much prefer a quality standalone BD player over an okay BD player via PS3. Price may matter to many people but for most early adopters it does not. We want quality and are willing to pay for it.

The reason we are interested in the prospect of an LG BD player is simple. HD DVD fanboys have been stating that LG would be doing a universal player rather than just a BD player. While we need more confirmation, this site suggests what many of us believed all along. Dual format players won't be available for quite awhile. And while you may not have heard of DVDBoxOffice before, I have. So it can't be too obscure. I don't go scouting for small non familiar stores to buy from, nor would I expect anyone does.

jonathan_teller · 05-06-2006, 11:33 PM

I see this all the time where people take for granted that the PS3 will be "half the price" of stand alone BD players and that the PS3 will also be a poor quality BD player. People assume this because that is basically how it went down when the PS2 launched in Japan.

But we have no hard evidence that the PS3 will be $500 or less and we sure as heck don't know how good a BD player it will be yet! E3 is only days away, and I expect we'll know the price then, but it isn't guaranteed. What if the price is $600 or $700? Still cheaper than the first $1000 BD players, but not "half the price". What if it turns out that when the PS3 launches in November, it's a really good BD player? It seems reasonable to me that other BD players may drop in price.

The simple fact is that we don't know. To keep assuming that it will be $500 and a poor quality player is just silly. People say stuff like "look at the PS2, Xbox and Xbox360, none of them are very good DVD players, therefore, the PS3 will suck as a BD player!" I get how people may draw that conclusion, but it isn't a cogent argument. The PS3 is a totally new device using some very advanced hardware. If Cell is all it's cracked up to be, the PS3 may have some VERY potent BD playing abilities.

Just my $0.02

Jon

thunderhawk · 05-07-2006, 09:55 AM

From what I've seen when the Playstation 3 was presented @ E3... I'm really impressed.
I've seen the hardware configurations... I've seen the demo's... And I'm definately sure of it, if PS3 has some HT qualities (for sound) then I definately am sure PS3 is a quality device...

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Sound
Dolby 5.1ch, DTS, LPCM, etc. (Cell-based processing)

Disc Media
CD: PlayStation CD-ROM, PlayStation 2 CD-ROM, CD-DA, CD-DA (ROM), CD-R, CD-RW, SACD, SACD Hybrid (CD layer), SACD HD, DualDisc, DualDisc (audio side), DualDisc (DVD side)
DVD: PlayStation 2 DVD-ROM, PlayStation 3 DVD-ROM, DVD-Video, DVD-ROM, DVD-R, DVD-RW, DVD+R, DVD+RW
Blu-ray Disc: PlayStation 3 BD-ROM, BD-Video, BD-ROM, BD-R, BD-RE
http://www.ps3land.com/ps3specs.php

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Other I/O Connectors
1 x Optical Audio

Standard AV Output Connectors
2 x HDMI, 1 x AV

Surround Sound
Multichannel Output (software driven)
http://hardware.gamespot.com/Story-S...features_image

JTK · 05-07-2006, 02:22 PM

I've never seen a videogame system that NON gamers were interested in until the PS3.

There's an as yet unknown Xfactor at play here: How many NON gamers will buy PS3's just for the sake of a quick BR stopgap until things settle out?

Xbox360 doesn't have that perk. HD-DVD doesn't have that perk.

Another + in the column for Blu-Ray in additon to this even more important fact:

How large is the present PS2 userbase? Several million people around the world?

All Sony has to do is get a DECENT fraction of THAT userbase to rollover and upgrade to a PS3 and at that point, I can't see how BR can be stopped with those kinds of numbers.

05-03-2006, 02:21 PM	#1
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	LG BD-790 Blu Ray player I've said all along that there be no universal players this year, if ever. Go to www.dvdboxoffice.com and you will find the LG bd-790 with an 6-27-06 available date. So much for LG not making BD players. So much for LG making some "universal" player, right? All as expected. Direct link: LG BD-790 If you do the currency exchange, you're still looking at a grand or more for this player. I'm sorry, but who the hell is going to pay a grand plus for an LG player? I wish the Samsung and LG players were priced competitively at least with the $800 Toshiba player because these three companies are all about the same from where I sit: Second rate. You have the WAY overpriced $1500 Panasonic player...the days of the RP82 and such are long since past them. Who's honestly going to pay $1500 for Panasonic in the here and now? I wish the BDA would have something at that entry level besides counting on the PS3 videogame console all the way in November to cover that $500 or so tier. Last edited by JTK; 05-03-2006 at 03:08 PM.

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05-03-2006, 05:17 PM	#2
georgir Active Member Member since:Mar 2005	the samsung is $880 and the sony even cheaper here: http://www.newyorkwholesaleaudiovide...yer-C3692.aspx i think thats competitive enough with the toshiba highend. the pioneer elite is also seriously cheaper on that site than the announced $1800 expected price. maybe its too good to be true? does anyone know something about this site's reputation? if they take your money 3 months before the player release and make you wait half an year after the launch before they ship your unit, don't blame me for posting the link

05-03-2006, 08:54 PM	#4
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	LOL, LG makes a BD player after all. What a great catch! Can't wait to read the HD DVD trolls responses to this one.

05-03-2006, 09:58 PM	#6
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	Hopefully LG will confirm this player this week.

05-06-2006, 06:55 PM	#7
hmurchison Banned Member since:Aug 2004 Location:Seaattle	Let me get this straight. Some site I've never heard about lists an LG BD player and I'm supposed to be excited by this? You guys are seriously clutching for straws. You know it doesn't matter how many companies make BD players I'd venture that I like most of you am looking forward to the PS3 being affordable. Only a few well heeled individuals are going buy a BD player for $1000 over a PS3 at half the cost. I doubt that Samsung, Panny and Pioneer are even going to manf in quantity knowing that Sony's PS3 is going to slaughter them in price. Thus its a bit hard to get excited by a phantom BD product at $1000. You could add another 50 models just like it but it's still not going to make a dent equivalent to what the PS3 can and needs to do.

05-06-2006, 08:41 PM	#8
zombie Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2004 Trading Score:864	Not everyone is a gamer though. The only reason I'll own a PS3 is because my sons like video games. I OTOH would likely never use it. I much prefer a quality standalone BD player over an okay BD player via PS3. Price may matter to many people but for most early adopters it does not. We want quality and are willing to pay for it. The reason we are interested in the prospect of an LG BD player is simple. HD DVD fanboys have been stating that LG would be doing a universal player rather than just a BD player. While we need more confirmation, this site suggests what many of us believed all along. Dual format players won't be available for quite awhile. And while you may not have heard of DVDBoxOffice before, I have. So it can't be too obscure. I don't go scouting for small non familiar stores to buy from, nor would I expect anyone does.

05-06-2006, 11:33 PM	#9
jonathan_teller New Member Member since:May 2006	I see this all the time where people take for granted that the PS3 will be "half the price" of stand alone BD players and that the PS3 will also be a poor quality BD player. People assume this because that is basically how it went down when the PS2 launched in Japan. But we have no hard evidence that the PS3 will be $500 or less and we sure as heck don't know how good a BD player it will be yet! E3 is only days away, and I expect we'll know the price then, but it isn't guaranteed. What if the price is $600 or $700? Still cheaper than the first $1000 BD players, but not "half the price". What if it turns out that when the PS3 launches in November, it's a really good BD player? It seems reasonable to me that other BD players may drop in price. The simple fact is that we don't know. To keep assuming that it will be $500 and a poor quality player is just silly. People say stuff like "look at the PS2, Xbox and Xbox360, none of them are very good DVD players, therefore, the PS3 will suck as a BD player!" I get how people may draw that conclusion, but it isn't a cogent argument. The PS3 is a totally new device using some very advanced hardware. If Cell is all it's cracked up to be, the PS3 may have some VERY potent BD playing abilities. Just my $0.02 Jon

05-07-2006, 02:22 PM	#11
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	I've never seen a videogame system that NON gamers were interested in until the PS3. There's an as yet unknown Xfactor at play here: How many NON gamers will buy PS3's just for the sake of a quick BR stopgap until things settle out? Xbox360 doesn't have that perk. HD-DVD doesn't have that perk. Another + in the column for Blu-Ray in additon to this even more important fact: How large is the present PS2 userbase? Several million people around the world? All Sony has to do is get a DECENT fraction of THAT userbase to rollover and upgrade to a PS3 and at that point, I can't see how BR can be stopped with those kinds of numbers.

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