How to bi-amp onkyo 706

[ryandubbz]

Hi guys im sorry i did search this but i must be a little slow, but I have an onkyo 706 and just got my new Polk Monitor 60's to add to my 5.1 setup. I dont know if i should but I was wondering how to bi amp or bi wire these speakers?


I dont have any external amps just the onkyo 706. Do I just go from the amps front right positive and the amps surround back right positive to the positives on the front right polk m60. And the the exact same but to the left side??

So a total of 4 sets of wires used, 2 pos, 2 neg per speaker??

Also is this called bi wiring or bi amping?

[Steve]

First you shut everything down and unplug the receiver. Next remove the jumpers from your speakers. These are the metal pieces that connect the upper and lower binding posts on the speakers. Connect the front left and right speaker connections from your receiver to the lower set of binding posts on your speakers. Now connect the surround back speaker connections on your receiver to the upper set of binding posts on your speakers. Go into the receiver's setup menu and turn the bi-amping feature on (refer to your manual for how to do this). Lastly I recommend you re-run the Audyssey setup feature of your Onkyo and you're good to go.

[ryandubbz]

Originally Posted by fireman325

First you shut everything down and unplug the receiver. Next remove the jumpers from your speakers. These are the metal pieces that connect the upper and lower binding posts on the speakers. Connect the front left and right speaker connections from your receiver to the lower set of binding posts on your speakers. Now connect the surround back speaker connections on your receiver to the upper set of binding posts on your speakers. Go into the receiver's setup menu and turn the bi-amping feature on (refer to your manual for how to do this). Lastly I recommend you re-run the Audyssey setup feature of your Onkyo and you're good to go.

wow thank you so much

[dewd]

Now that you know how, my question is why? Passive bi-amping (this is what you are doing) adds nothing to your sound or power.

[ryandubbz]

Originally Posted by dewd

Now that you know how, my question is why? Passive bi-amping (this is what you are doing) adds nothing to your sound or power.

really? I guess Why does the receiver have that option and the speakers too? Whats the bad side effects of doing it? Do the speakers need to break IN

Also I just ran audessy and it set my speakers as follows

Fronts FULL BAND
Center 150hz
Surrounds 80hz
LPF of LFE 120hz
Double Bass ON

Is this okay or should i change it????

[dewd]

It doesn't hurt, but it does not help either. It's there because its something extra someone in marketing can put it on the sales flyers.

Change your fronts to 80hz. This will turn off double bass. This allows the sub to handle the lower frequencies (and takes some of the load off of your receiver).

Break in occurs within a few seconds.

[ryandubbz]

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is the distance between fine cause i cant move them further apart fiance said

[Big Daddy]

Originally Posted by ryandubbz

Hi guys im sorry i did search this but i must be a little slow, but I have an onkyo 706 and just got my new Polk Monitor 60's to add to my 5.1 setup. I dont know if i should but I was wondering how to bi amp or bi wire these speakers?


I dont have any external amps just the onkyo 706. Do I just go from the amps front right positive and the amps surround back right positive to the positives on the front right polk m60. And the the exact same but to the left side??

So a total of 4 sets of wires used, 2 pos, 2 neg per speaker??

Also is this called bi wiring or bi amping?

You didn't search hard enough and should be penalized.

Go to the Bi-Amping & Bi-Wiring thread. In the middle of post #1, I have some pictures and explanations for bi-amping. The thread has a sticky in Speakers Section.

[ryandubbz]

Is my speaker distance far enough apart? Picture in previous post

[Steve]

Originally Posted by ryandubbz

Is my speaker distance far enough apart? Picture in previous post

That's not really a question anyone can give you a definite yes or no for. I suggest you play with the distance and with toeing them in and see what sounds best to you.

Are you going to try bi-amping them?

[ryandubbz]

Originally Posted by fireman325

That's not really a question anyone can give you a definite yes or no for. I suggest you play with the distance and with toeing them in and see what sounds best to you.

Are you going to try bi-amping them?

Ya I did bi amp them, Also i have the receiver set at

80hz for the fronts
150hz for center
80hz for surrounds
and 120hz lpf of lfe

Do these look right?

[Steve]

It looks kind of high for the center, but I don't know what kind of frequency range your center speaker has. If you're looking for an upgrade to your system, one of the biggest you can make is to replace your center with a Polk CS1 or CS2 to match your Monitor 60s.

[ryandubbz]

which would better match cs1 or cs2? Also its a yamaha entry level htib center speaker, do you think i should change the 150 to something lower like 80 for all of them?

Like these speakers http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...2&CTID=5000800

[Mordir]

One thing to note about bi-amping with your receiver is doing so will reduce the power per channel for all channels. The Onkyo 706 will also get much hotter doing so. The drop off is significant. You will get less power to the front speakers even though 2 channels are dedicated to them and the surrounds will surely get less power.

The bench tests on the 706 show 5 channels gives about 75 watts per channel. When you bump it up to 7 channels (which bi-amping effectively does) the power per channel drops to around 28 watts.

Overall you will decrease the performance of your set up if you bi-amp with the receiver.

As far as your center channel is concerned I suggest the CS1 to match your 60s.

[Steve]

If it was my system, I would go with the CS2 since it's the bigger/beefier speaker. Polk says either is a good match for your Monitor 60s. Also, if you prefer, it's my understanding that the CS10 and CS20 are newer models, but still basically the same as the CS1 and CS2, and would still be a good match with your Monitor 60s.

[dewd]

Originally Posted by ryandubbz

which would better match cs1 or cs2? Also its a yamaha entry level htib center speaker, do you think i should change the 150 to something lower like 80 for all of them?

Like these speakers http://www.yamaha.com/yec/products/p...2&CTID=5000800

No, don't change to 80. The 150 was set when Audyssey measured the speaker in your room. I agree that it is high, but when measured that is all it could do.

Your front speakers should be timbre matched. This means that everything should sound the same in each. Having a Yamaha center with Polk mains is a bad idea. You should upgrade.

[dewd]

Originally Posted by Mordir

One thing to note about bi-amping with your receiver is doing so will reduce the power per channel for all channels. The Onkyo 706 will also get much hotter doing so. The drop off is significant. You will get less power to the front speakers even though 2 channels are dedicated to them and the surrounds will surely get less power.

The bench tests on the 706 show 5 channels gives about 75 watts per channel. When you bump it up to 7 channels (which bi-amping effectively does) the power per channel drops to around 28 watts.

Overall you will decrease the performance of your set up if you bi-amp with the receiver.

As far as your center channel is concerned I suggest the CS1 to match your 60s.

I seen that before as well... I'm convinced it is a typo since the x05 series didn't drop off that much. I mean, that dropoff is HUGE...

[ryandubbz]

Originally Posted by dewd

No, don't change to 80. The 150 was set when Audyssey measured the speaker in your room. I agree that it is high, but when measured that is all it could do.

Your front speakers should be timbre matched. This means that everything should sound the same in each. Having a Yamaha center with Polk mains is a bad idea. You should upgrade.

Ya I plan on upgrading the center and the surrounds, but just upgraded the fronts so hopefully soon i will get the center. So i should un biamp the fronts? so i have more power per speaker? Do i have to re run the audessy calibration then after i do this?

[Mordir]

Anytime you make a change to your set up you should run the calibration again.

That includes moving a speaker, changing the direction the speaker is pointed, replacing a speaker, etc.

[Mordir]

Originally Posted by dewd

I seen that before as well... I'm convinced it is a typo since the x05 series didn't drop off that much. I mean, that dropoff is HUGE...

I hope it's a typo too but the xx7 series seems to be getting the same type of drop off. The xx5 was a beast series but after that they seem to have lost their power.