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Old 07-23-2007, 12:13 AM   #1
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I want to know how they do this. I'm watching Troy right now on tv. Stunning picture quality (and it fits the screen). My projector says that the source is 1080i. Troy is not even on blu-ray, and on HD-DVD it has the black bars. How is this done on tv?
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they probably jus upscaled the DVD format to 1080i which happens to come in 16x9
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So is the height of the picture 1080 pixels tall or not? It looks like it might be.
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it should be 1080 by 768
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Either Warner did an open-matte transfer or a 16x9 transfer. Hopefully it's the former because otherwise you're getting fuzzier details. The films OAR is 2.39:1 so a 16:9 transfer is compromised.

FYI, a 1080p screen is 1920 pixels WIDE x 1080 pixels HIGH.


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In most cases they crop the edges similarly to how they made any widescreen aspect ratio fit on a 4:3 screen during the VHS days. So you are not seeing the entire picture.

As for pixels it is probably upscaled to 1080 pixels horizontally and 1920 pixels horizontally.
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As for pixels it is probably upscaled to 1080 pixels vertically and 1920 pixels horizontally.
So indeed I am seeing a 1080x1920 resolution of Troy on HDTV, whereas Troy on 2.4:1 blu-ray format would not have picture height of 1080 pixels (but rather like 700 pixels high). So I am seeing better detail here on TV, than I would on blu-ray.
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So indeed I am seeing a 1080x1920 resolution of Troy on HDTV, whereas Troy on 2.4:1 blu-ray format would not have picture height of 1080 pixels (but rather like 700 pixels high). So I am seeing better detail here on TV, than I would on blu-ray.
well it's 803 pixels if the image on screen is exactly 2.39

If youre seeing a 16:9 fullscreen version youre either seeing A) an open matte versions that shows extra empty space shot above and below the intended image filling up the 1080 height but the intended image within is still 800 pixels, or B) a scan done at 1080 which would show more detail but less image: only 3/4ths of the width, or C) worst posible case the 800 pixel scan being blown up (upscaled to 1080) AND cropped with only 3/4ths of the width
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I see. But somehow it still looks pretty 1080p to me.
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I've said it once, I've said it a gazillion times. The studios need to educate early adopters about differing aspect ratios. Otherwise we're going to have the same kinda dual-inventory crap that plagues DVD.


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