One of the long-term benefits of the LaserVue technology is a significantly lower level of power consumption compared to other HDTV technologies. A Pioneer Elite 60" plasma requires 524W for operation; a Sharp Aquos 65" LCD requires 525W; Mitsubishi's 65" LaserVue TV only needs 135W. On average, the LaserVue required one-third the power of a comparably sized LCD and one-fourth of a similar plasma set. If you're dropping the suggested retail price of $6,999.99, you may not be as worried about your utility bill, but it's still good to see gains with regards to efficiency.
Ok, but have you seen the picture. I have heard great things but you mention nothing about PQ. I think that is the most important thing, especially when you are spending that much on a TV.
Ok, but have you seen the picture. I have heard great things but you mention nothing about PQ. I think that is the most important thing, especially when you are spending that much on a TV.
A friend of mine was telling me how it's supposed to have more vivid or realistic colors or something. Something about LCD/plasma only being able to show a fraction of the visible spectrum, but frankly, I don't buy it. It's no worse, I'm sure, but I wouldn't think it's so much better either. The real draw on these things I can see is truly just the efficiency angle. Shame the price won't be down to a good value for a while though.
Ok, but have you seen the picture. I have heard great things but you mention nothing about PQ. I think that is the most important thing, especially when you are spending that much on a TV.
If you search for laservue TV reviews on google, theres a couple that say that PQ rivals that or may even be more better than Pioneer's latest Kuro. Take this with a grain of salt though because I havent seen any official reviews yet.
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i think laser is gonna be the way to go. supposedly sets have started shipping to retail outlets...so official review should be around soon, but in the meantime i did find this:
Don't get me wrong, it looks like its going to be a great technology, but there are not enough reviews on this, and not many people have actually seen these TVs to make such bold claims as this will be my next TV. I know we are joking here, but I mean come on, you can get a Pioneer Elite Kuro for cheaper than that, or just make the next big step and get an awesome projector.
i think laser is gonna be the way to go. supposedly sets have started shipping to retail outlets...so official review should be around soon, but in the meantime i did find this:
The first test was with Ice Age: Meltdown, which we chose because it has lots of pretty colors and, well, animated movies just look incredible, especially in HD. This round concluded in a near dead heat - the colors looked brilliant on both sets.
There was a fair amount of "sparkle" that I noticed in the lighter blues and grays of the LaserVue picture, but this wasn't really a problem. It's more of a characteristic of DLP sets in general, but it was slightly more apparent to me on the Mitsubishi set. [Kurtis: On the sparkle issue, it's something I've noticed on my Mitsu lamp-based DLP and my Samsung LED-based DLP, and I've sort of gotten used to it I guess, because I didn't notice it much on the LaserVue.] I couldn't get that DLP commercial out of my head: "It's the lasers."
In scenes with heavy motion, I'd give the edge to the LaserVue, ever so slightly. Detail just seemed to hold together a little better when comparing the two sets. Edges were a little harder on the LaserVue, but contrast was a bit better on the Kuro.
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Our second test was Iron Man. In the first clip, we were comparing contrast between the two to see who was straight crushin' the most. You remember when the reporter babe wakes up in Tony Stark's bedroom with fine silk sheets barely covering her? I bet you do. Right after that, there's a slow zoom-out on Stark's bachelor pad. The white walls on the house against the dark interior (through the windows) provided the perfect test shot.
We expected the Kuro to blot out some of the detail in this shot with its muscular black levels, but to our surprise, it was almost spot on with the LaserVue. The colors (mostly the reds, big surprise) were a little better on the Mitsubishi, but again, it wasn't a massive difference.
Another notable test clip from Iron Man was the scene where Tony saves the villagers from a group of terrorists insurgents. Don't take them as gospel truth, but the image crops provided here show just what we noticed in this clip. The Pioneer set didn't look bad by any means, but it was, as Kurtis opined, it showed a slight loss in static detail and looked slightly "cartoonish." Comparing the two on-screen, we noted sharper edges and less saturated golds and [surprisingly], reds, on the LaserVue. [Kurtis: The Kuro looks fantastic on its own, but when compared with the LaserVue, it doesn't seem as real. I was surprised to see the 'hot rod red' appear more saturated on the Kuro, but when you really look at it, it's almost plastic looking, whereas the LaserVue looked like, well... a battle-scarred 'hot rod red' freaking super-hero suit.
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Pioneer Kuro Test Disc
The last of the test footage was actually straight from the horse's mouth, albeit the "other" horse. Bjorn's had an official Pioneer Kuro test disc (Blu-Ray, of course) on hand that we ran on both TVs. One scene in particular stuck out more than the others, and hey - surprise again - it involved the color red! [Kurtis, breaking into song: One Red... is the loneliest Number Color... that you'll ever do you Never Knew...]
If there was one clip all morning that defined our experience with the LaserVue, it was this one. The basic gist of it was that a woman in a red sequined dress decided to go swimming in a pitch-black pool with a high-speed camera capturing the fun. It's probably "artistic" or something like that, but I like to pretend it was some creepy voyeur who found an equally creepy target.
So anyways, underwater woman in a red dress is on screen... On the Kuro, that's what we saw. When we switched over to the LaserVue, the dress wasn't just red anymore - it was a deeper "ruby" color on the top, and an orange'ish shade on the bottom. If there was a single clip that showed off Mitsubishi's claims, this was it. I'm thinking maybe Mitsubishi should borrow that clip from Pioneers test disc for their own.
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A couple of our readers have asked about viewing angles and power consumption... The Kuro kills the Mitsubishi in the viewing angles department. The LaserVue's is basically the same as a non-laser Mitsu DLP in this regard, whereas the Kuro looks like a [beautiful] picture hanging on the wall. If excellent viewing angles are at the top of your list of requirements, the LaserVue probably won't satisfy.
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And the colors. You're not going to find a set that is capable of displaying colors quite like this one. If you're a Nebraska fan or you cheer for a team sporting a cardinal for a mascot, you're set. If George A. Romero's film collection never leaves your Blu-Ray player, or you're a Republican, you'll love the LaserVue.
That's not to say that the LaserVue is the best HDTV display ever. That's a highly subjective designation, as we found from discussing the matter with Bjorn's staff, who eat, sleep, and breath high-end A/V gear. Some of them were smitten with the LaserVue's all-around picture quality. A few others still thought the Kuro was the set to beat. They talked about the tremendous black level capabilities and value-added features of Pioneer's plasma jewel in comparison to the Mitsubishi's average (for this price range) feature set and not-quite-as-deep blacks.
It looks like kuro still has a better viewing angle than the laser, and some believe its still the best tv.
I say lets wait until the 10g kuros come out next year, thats when the real fun begins ( the current kuros hold there own againts the laser so i can imagine even better for the 10g)
This is just another L.E.D. DLP display, even if it's cabinet is a bit more shallow. I have a Sammy DLP and it is only 25% deeper than this Mitsi. (I'm sure I could hang mine on the wall if I had to.)
The "LaserVue Light Engine" is Mitsubishi's monicker for an L.E.D. DLP. From their own spec sheet:
Display Type: 1080p DLP
Once you cut through the hype, just what's so special about it, other than the high price point?
This is just another L.E.D. DLP display, even if it's cabinet is a bit more shallow.
I've actually seen a news piece on the LaserVue and they actually showed the hardware that was inside of the tv. Guess what was in it....lasers...not LED's. This is a totally different method of backlighting. I do however think that they are overpricing these things just because they can. Its been noted before that the cost of making them is not much more than regular DLP's. If Mitsubishi was smart they would price these much less than $7000 to get them selling faster, because at this price point most people would just get a Pioneer or a Panasonic plasma since they're much slimmer and can be hung on walls. Yeah, they say these LaserVue's can be hung on a wall, but really...who wants the tv to stick out ten inches from the wall?
It'll be interesting to see how these look in person. I have heard the "reds" are much better is tones than anything rivaling it to date. I wouldn't mind checking one of these out when they hit magnolia theaters at BB. I doubt I would fork over the change for one right now though we have all learned waiting for second generation of new technology is always the best route. Lets the greedy get the first gens.
My concern is the potential for eye-damage risks from the laser. With CD, CD-ROM, DVD, BD we never actually make eye contact with the laser. With laser TV we will be looking directly at the laser. Over time, one might end up with laser burns on the retina, but hopefully there will a method to reduce the emission level from causing eye damage.
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