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Old 01-21-2010, 12:09 AM   #1
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What movies on Blu Ray do you think Criterion should rerelease to make it a better experience? It could be from subtitle placement for cinemascope foreign films (Sony has been notorius for this), DNR, EE or artifacts in the transfer. or a lack of special features, or anything that is problematic with the blu ray.

I would pick Kung Fu Hustle, mainly because when you watch the Catonese track on it, the subtitles are in the black bar is very problematic. Criterion does the most consistent job with foreign films because they emulate the experience for us CIH home theater users. Make that any foreign film to be given this treatment. I'm very upset about Sony because in their early release of Immortal Beloved, I was cheery because they have subtitle placement for the movie that allow you to choose the position of where to put them. Too bad it didn't catch attention because it was an English film in a US Blu ray.

Pan's Labyrinth and Patton for example for problematic use of DNR. With larger screens, this is problematic because the use of DNR is more noticable and doesn't have the film like look (especially Pan's Labyrinth) to immerse us as it did theatrically.

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agree with trainspotting i have the canada version blu still better than dvd.
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The question the OP is posing is which *existing* Blu-ray titles should be reissued by Criterion.

The obvious answer is Ran, but I guess that's not gonna happen anytime soon.

Hero with HD audio (sorry, the dub track doesn't count) and a better subtitle translation would be good.

RoboCop, since the current Blu-ray is bare bones and the transfer isn't so hot. Criterion released this before on LD and DVD.
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The question the OP is posing is which *existing* Blu-ray titles should be reissued by Criterion
(Which, obviously, do not include Patton, Pan's Labyrinth, or Kung Fu Hustle, which are owned by Fox, New Line and Sony respectively.)

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RoboCop, since the current Blu-ray is bare bones and the transfer isn't so hot. Criterion released this before on LD and DVD.
Back when they were actually allowed to release other studios's movies (Michael Bay, Wes Anderson and David Fincher notwithstanding), because studios didn't have their own DVD lines--And didn't much care whether a movie did go to that new trendy toy, so let the snooty LD company play with it for those weirdo home-theater techies, because they were one of the few in town who DID have a laser-mastering facility.

Obviously, it's a little different today. Studios who now depend on DVD income hold onto their titles with greedy jealousy, and Criterion has been left adrift with all the existing intellectual-property titles they own, which is pretty much all of the Janus foreign-film catalog.
If you're still worshipping at the 90's fan-statue of "Criterion can pick any movie they want, so could they pick mine if I ask them to be nice?"...sorry, they tore down that statue a decade ago--Next thread?

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Old 01-21-2010, 04:22 AM   #7
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(Which, obviously, do not include Patton, Pan's Labyrinth, or Kung Fu Hustle, which are owned by Fox, New Line and Sony respectively.)
They meant released on Blu-ray by anybody, I think. As you know it's not exceedingly rare for Criterion to rerelease a movie already available from its studio.


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Back when they were actually allowed to release other studios's movies (Michael Bay, Wes Anderson and David Fincher notwithstanding), because studios didn't have their own DVD lines--And didn't much care whether a movie did go to that new trendy toy, so let the snooty LD company play with it for those weirdo home-theater techies, because they were one of the few in town who DID have a laser-mastering facility.

Obviously, it's a little different today. Studios who now depend on DVD income hold onto their titles with greedy jealousy, and Criterion has been left adrift with all the existing intellectual-property titles they own, which is pretty much all of the Janus foreign-film catalog.
If you're still worshipping at the 90's fan-statue of "Criterion can pick any movie they want, so could they pick mine if I ask them to be nice?"...sorry, they tore down that statue a decade ago--Next thread?
LOL, condescending much? I don't recall the part where this thread was going to be sent to Criterion's home office in the expectation that they'd do something about it.

Plus, how does that story account for the various new-release movies Criterion handles ('Che,' 'Gomorrah'), and the fact that they've continued to release titles from Hollywood studios after they all started their own DVD distribution (I dunno...'3 Women'), even if there was already a DVD of that very movie released by said studio ('Armageddon,' 'Videodrome,' 'Dazed and Confused,' 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,' 'Traffic'...)?

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Plus, how does that story account for the various new-release movies Criterion handles ('Che,' 'Gomorrah'), and the fact that they've continued to release titles from Hollywood studios after they all started their own DVD distribution (I dunno...'3 Women'), even if there was already a DVD of that very movie released by said studio ('Armageddon,' 'Videodrome,' 'Dazed and Confused,' 'Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas,' 'Traffic'...)?
Directors (yes, including Steven Soderbergh) can negotiate with Criterion directly, but usually in the case of an production where the director has the artistic/ownership say over his own work--You were about to mention "Benjamin Button"?

As for the days when Criterion went around free-lance improving everyone ELSE's movies just for the thrill of it...again, sorry, those days went out when we lost Spinal Tap.
(And to this day, it's not just the anime fans that say "That studio won't release our movie, let's go ask Criterion to fix it!")
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Directors (yes, including Steven Soderbergh) can negotiate with Criterion directly, but usually in the case of an production where the director has the artistic/ownership say over his own work--You were about to mention "Benjamin Button"?

As for the days when Criterion went around free-lance improving everyone ELSE's movies just for the thrill of it...again, sorry, those days went out when we lost Spinal Tap.
(And to this day, it's not just the anime fans that say "That studio won't release our movie, let's go ask Criterion to fix it!")
I don't doubt that's where it is now, but I asked how Criterion's changing output could have anything to do with studios developing their own DVD lines, given how late in the game they were releasing major studio films alongside (or years after) the studio's own DVD version.
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