Does UP deserve an Oscar Nomination for BEST FILM?

[Foggy]

If it was up to me, YES!!!

Without a doubt, Up was my fave film of last year, and many of you would put it as one of the best films of last year also. But my friend has a stereotypical view on Animation films, looking at them and saying that they are childish and incapable of having emotion and a good story. I told him he was wrong and that it so good that it was capable of receiving a best film nomination, he said no way, I said yes way. Now we have a tenner bet.

Here are my reasons as to why I think Up, has an incredible high risk of getting in.

1) 10 spaces for best film-Instead of the usual 5, the Academy have decided to up there game this year, as many films last year we're left out (not mentioning any names) but this year there have been very little out there for the award, with many films not going to be good and deserving of the nomination, meanwhile Up is of better quality than most those films.
2) Shutter Island delay-This left a lot of gaps in many peoples Oscar prediction lists, the one big film that felt like it was going to be a dead cert for the academy was pushed back to later Feb. And with so little being out as well, Up could swoop in take a place.
3) If blue alien cat people can get nominated, why not Up-I have nothing wrong with Avatar, I love the film, and I believe it will be the big winner of the Oscars, but if that film can get nominated why can't Up as well.
4) SUPRISE!!!!-Oscars have always tried to be surprising, but the big predictable winner is always Pixar, they are always miles ahead of the competition in every way possible, this ties into number 5 which is...
5) Pixar have always tried to get into the best film category-Come on, they been trying for years and years and years, and each year they are rejected, so they go back and up there quality and make another film bigger and better, so this could very well be there key in as...
6) The Academy always like a coming of age story-Hence why Up in the Air is baggsed a place in there, but Up has everything the academy love, endearing story, great character, fantastic acting.
7) A lot of other great animation movies this year- It's almost unfair most the competition has to go against Up, I would much rather see Fantastic Mr.Fox go away with the best animation award and Up go off with the big boys, It so much more deserving.
8) There will be rioting in the streets if it's not nominated-Ok I kid, but seriously, I will create a one man army and take down the academy by myself.

But obviously there is a downside also:

1) Academy will still be sour of an animation film in the best film category-Chances are that they are wary of a "kids" film in the best film category are high.
2) Could they be saving it for toy story 3?-This one is iffy but it still could be a possibility, the first Toy Story was groundbreaking, it did the same thing Avatar promises to do now, but the reason the academy might be want the sequel to the very first computer animated film ever to be a best pic nod, seems possible.
3) Might Up be too patronizing?-This is another strange one, but a film with such heavy themes are usually the Academy's fave, but a children's film could have a chance of being seen as down talking to the audience or under playing themes.

There are my reasons, what do you guys think?

[john_1958]

yes very much so!

[Gaius Marius]

YES!

If the themes explored in Up were in a live action drama, this conversation wouldn't even be happening

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by Gaius Marius

YES!

If the themes explored in Up were in a live action drama, this conversation wouldn't even be happening

Agreed +1

[TheZoof]

Yes. Nominated...

Win... no.

[HuskerGuy]

Originally Posted by TheZoof

Yes. Nominated...

Win... no.

Agreed.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by TheZoof

Yes. Nominated...

Win... no.

I also agree, there is no chance of it winning.

[tbizzle]

Just watched this for the first time the other day, and while it's an awesome movie, and I enjoyed it a lot, it wasn't nearly as good as it was hyped up to be.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by Gaius Marius

YES!

If the themes explored in Up were in a live action drama, this conversation wouldn't even be happening

One sentence captures the entire TRUTH.

[jadedeath]

Let's see... it's arty, depressing, and tries to go for the typical Hollywood "Happy Ending"

So yes, it can be nominated.

Logan

[SquidPuppet]

Will it be nominated? Dunno.

Will it Win? Doubt it.

Is it a phenomenal piece of movie making? Yes.

Is it as good as the other films likely to be nominated? Yes.

[Show spoiler]Is it beter than the blue cat people movie? WAY!

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Let's see... it's arty, depressing, and tries to go for the typical Hollywood "Happy Ending"

So yes, it can be nominated.

Logan

Arty and depressing (after the first 10 minutes) are not two words I would use to describe the film.

And anything "can" be nominated. The question is whether it will or not. I think it is almost a certainty that it will be nominated, although it will not win. Foggy provided many great reasons why. Imo, the three reasons why it will be nominated are: 1) it's good enough; 2) there are 10 nominees; 3) it was a weak year. Not to mention, a major reason for the nominee expansion is to allow popular films to be nominated, as a means of drawing more viewers to the telecast. Of course, Avatar by itself will do this. However, because of the perceived "snub" of Wall-E, I think the Academy will make up for it with a nom for Up, which is a far superior film to begin with.

Def would love to see it nominated, a true gem imo.

[Gaius Marius]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Will it be nominated? Dunno.

Will it Win? Doubt it.

Is it a phenomenal piece of movie making? Yes.

Is it as good as the other films likely to be nominated? Yes.

[Show spoiler]Is it beter than the blue cat people movie? WAY!

Agree with all parts, especially the last

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Arty and depressing (after the first 10 minutes) are not two words I would use to describe the film.
.

Do you ignore the first 10 minutes of EVERY movie you watch?

If so, that could explain a great deal.

Logan

[jhiggy23]

Great write-up Foggy. I think you nailed the reasons for and against a nomination.

[Foggy]

Originally Posted by jhiggy23

Great write-up Foggy. I think you nailed the reasons for and against a nomination.

Thanks

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Do you ignore the first 10 minutes of EVERY movie you watch?

If so, that could explain a great deal.

Logan

No but I watch the rest of the movie and then make a judgment about the overall message and meaning of the film. The first 10 minutes are undoubtedly depressing (and a tremendous piece of filmmaking), but I find the story to be hopeful and uplifting in the end.

If I focused on 10 minutes only of every film I watch, then the messages of those respective films would be drastically different than what one potentially would get out of the film as a whole. 10 minutes is irrelevant if the the other 90 are aimed at turning the corner.

But that's okay. I wouldn't expect you to agree, since you make it a point to argue with everything I say even when it's correct or a matter of opinion. If you think the movie is depressing, then that's on you. I personally don't see it that way and I don't know of many other ppl that do either. I find the ending to be very beautiful actually.

[repete66211]

Did I enjoy Up? Yes.
Was it the best movie I saw in 2009? No.
Was it one of the 10 best movies I saw in 2009? Eh, I suppose so.
Would I watch it again? Depends on what else is on TV.

I thought it was cute and sentimental, but pretty two-dimensional and predictible. In other words, it's just as a Pixar/Disney movie should be--a technically superior and well-crafted movie that opts for pleasing rather than challenging the crowd. It's solid, safe, uncontroversial entertainment.

[DJ Manyak]

i doubt any animation will ever win best picture

[jhiggy23]

Originally Posted by computergeek

i doubt any animation will ever win best picture

I agree, whether that's right or not.