Alphabetical Collection Question

[kdawq]

Why does 300 come before 40yr old virgin in the collection overview...isnt 300 more than 40???

[JFunk]

It has nothing to do with how big the number is... think of 1 as A, 2 as B, 3 as C, etc... you wouldn't put D before C, would you?

An example of organization numerically would be...

13th Warrior
1408
2012
300
40 Year Old Virgin
8 Mile
9

[kdawq]

ahh thanks for the response

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by kdawq

Why does 300 come before 40yr old virgin in the collection overview...isnt 300 more than 40???

When sorting alphabetically, numerical value has little importance. 300 comes before 40 because 3 comes before 4 - you just compare the digits individually until you come to one that decides the order, the digits after that are irrelevant.

Just like sorting letters - consider "Dark City" and "Daredevil." You compare the first character - both "d." Second character - both "a." Third character - both "r." They differ in the fourth character - "e" comes before "k," so Daredevil is placed first. Now just do the same for films with numbers in the name.

That's how I've traditionally seen it done.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by JFunk

It has nothing to do with how big the number is... think of 1 as A, 2 as B, 3 as C, etc... you wouldn't put D before C, would you?

An example of organization numerically would be...

13th Warrior
1408
2012
300
40 Year Old Virgin
8 Mile
9

Great explanation.

[DetroitSportsFan]

3 comes before 4.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

3 comes before 4.

Almost did not recognize you with the new Avatar.

[Johnny Vinyl]

Any alpha or numeric list start its sequence (not counting other symbols) from the FIRST character...In this case...3 comes before 4...hence the reason.

John

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

3 comes before 4.

I can't get no respect!

John

[Atreyu]

The way I do it is how you would spell each number so 4(four) comes before 3(three) alphabetically.

[neo_reloaded]

Originally Posted by Atreyu

The way I do it is how you would spell each number so 4(four) comes before 3(three) alphabetically.

So 4 (four) comes before 1 (one), 2 (two), and 3 (three)? And 3 (three) comes before 2 (two)? That seems confusing. Unless you're saying you mix these in with all the non-numerical titles as well (i.e., movies that begin with 4 or 40 etc. go in with all other movies that begin with "f" like Friday the 13th or Fargo).

[Johnny Vinyl]

Originally Posted by Atreyu

The way I do it is how you would spell each number so 4(four) comes before 3(three) alphabetically.

If 4 comes before 3, then 6 comes before 5, right? Does that mean I'm actually 65 and not 56? Hmmmm?????

John

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Almost did not recognize you with the new Avatar.

Originally Posted by John72953

I can't get no respect!

Yeah.

[minlshaw]

If having 300 precede The 40 Year-Old-Virgin bugs you, and you don't want to alphabetize the titles, there is an alternative. If you're using a cataloging system, find the largest number title in your library. Let's say these are your only two.

Make the Sort Titles read: 040 Year Old Virgin and 300. The leading "0" will put Virgin first. This works using DVD Profiler, and I expect it would work with nearly any other system as well.

(If you're not using a catalog system, then you're free to just place 'em how you want 'em!)

[toef]

As others have mentioned, it's due to the way the programming interprets numbers (looking at it one digit at a time).

But that doesn't mean that it's some sort of rule of collating. Feel free to order them any way you want (I only have two numerical movies, but 300 comes before 2001: A Space Odyssey on my shelf).

[Yank731]

Originally Posted by John72953

Any alpha or numeric list start its sequence (not counting other symbols) from the FIRST character...In this case...3 comes before 4...hence the reason.

John

I was wondering why (500) Days of Summer was listed before 2001: A Space Odyssey in my collection. Thanks

[F13BluRay]

Originally Posted by JFunk

It has nothing to do with how big the number is... think of 1 as A, 2 as B, 3 as C, etc... you wouldn't put D before C, would you?

An example of organization numerically would be...

13th Warrior
1408
2012
300
40 Year Old Virgin
8 Mile
9

That is how I have mine displayed. The #ed movies go first so 1408 is #1 then 2001 Space Odyssey is #2 and the 300 is #3 and so on. Its easier to just go buy the first #.

[minlshaw]

Originally Posted by Yank731

I was wondering why (500) Days of Summer was listed before 2001: A Space Odyssey in my collection. Thanks

The leading open parenthesis. Punctuation precedes numbers. If you're using a cataloging system and want to change this, go into the Sort Title field, and simply remove the parentheses. The new sort title should read: 500 Days of Summer.