Health problems associated with 3D

[BluLobsta]

Samsung Issues 3D Health Information

People that are under the influence of alcohol are urged to avoid 3D altogether Isn't that like all of us

[bhampton]

It's like this..

You get drunk and then pop in a horror flick and when the axe comes out of the screen if you were sober, you would duck. Being drunk however it takes your head right off.

-Brian

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by bhampton

it's like this..

You get drunk and then pop in a horror flick and when the axe comes out of the screen if you were sober, you would duck. Being drunk however it takes your head right off.

-brian

[P@t_Mtl]

The problem is not 3D is dangerous for your health, it's that like always alcohol make's people act like total brainless jackass

[HotRats]

I was reading a piece about 3D a couple of days ago, purportedly by someone who worked on 3D VR systems that were never put on sale and basically he claims 3D introduces an artifical depth perception that overrides the one in your brain. For most people the brain snaps back into real depth perception pretty quickly after a couple of hours in the cinema (altough I'd love to know if there are more accidents in car parks after 3D screenings) but nobody knows what effect prolonged exposure to artifical 3D will have. The AV companies have done zero research into potential long term effects. And it'll have a probably have a Videodrome signal too

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

The problem is not 3D is dangerous for your health, it's that like always alcohol make's people act like total brainless jackass

Yes, and I have the ex-girlfriends to prove it

[kdo]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Yes, and I have the ex-girlfriends to prove it

[lghaze42]

Originally Posted by bhampton

It's like this..

You get drunk and then pop in a horror flick and when the axe comes out of the screen if you were sober, you would duck. Being drunk however it takes your head right off.

-Brian

lol.I can see that happening and you throwing something back at the screen...hmmmm....might sell more 3D TV's that way...lol

[rkolinski]

I just thought I would post this: I'm not being an ALARMIST and I'm all for tech advances (hopefully, you can see that from my equipment) but I think the following was worthy of a separate thread. I hope you agree with me but I would also like to read your thoughts on this issue.

Here's what Marc Pesce found, the virtual reality expert who helped Sega to develop a 3D headset in the '90s:

"He discovered that 'binocular dysphoria' is the price you pay for cheating the brain into imagining it sees depth cues on a flat surface. 'When the movie's over, and you take your glasses off, your brain is still ignoring all those depth perception cues' says Pesce; 'It'll come back to normal, eventually. Some people will snap right back. In others, it might take a few hours... this doesn't matter too much if you're going to see a movie in the theatre - though it could lead to a few prangs in the parking lot afterward - but it does matter hugely if it's something you'll be exposed to for hours a day, every day, via your television set.'

Pesce's shocking conclusion is that 3DTV will either 'die a quiet death', or manufacturers will 'see the biggest class-action lawsuit in the planet's history, as millions of children around the world realize that their televisions permanently ruined their depth perception'"

http://hcc.techradar.com/blogs/team-...shock-03-03-10

I guess my only conclusion from reading this and the Samsung warning posted elsewhere is have any of you heard of the company called TOYOTA! Some of you might think that Samsung is just protecting themselves in advance legally but clearly these WARNINGS should be taken seriously! Just MHO!

So, If you want to know what I think - the 3D industry is trying to foster this technology on the home viewer and even the theater viewer when they already know that extensiive viewing of 3D is unhealthy. It's also clear to me from what I've seen from Toyota's actions or lack thereof that they only care about the bottom line, not the safety of the consumer! Personally, I hope 3D not only fails because it is a bad idea but also because it is unsafe! It is also clear to me, at least from what I've seen from Toyota's actions or lack thereof that these companies pushing 3D only care about the bottom line, not the safety of the consumer! Personally, I hope 3D fails big time and to use a Latin phrase "praemonitus, praemunitus" - "Forewarned is forearmed!"

[skoselger]

all true. after watching avatar in 3d in theater my eyes hurt the whole day after. i was worried but on third day the pain went away. obviously its not good for your eyes or brain.

[Cadrian]

Originally Posted by skoselger

all true. after watching avatar in 3d in theater my eyes hurt the whole day after. i was worried but on third day the pain went away. obviously its not good for your eyes or brain.

Really? Avatar was one of the easiest on the Eyes 3d movie I ever seen. I usually avoid 3d movies... but I went and seen avatar in 3d considering that was what it was meant to seen as. Avatar made me appreciate 3D where i hated it before.

I went and seen Superman Returns in 3d a few years ago in IMAX and barely was able to walk out the theater and in that movie I just wore the glasses in certain parts of the movie not totally through.

If people quit bootlegging every film out there.... Maybe these companies wouldn't be pushing a harder format that is harder to bootleg.

[john_1958]

Originally Posted by skoselger

all true. after watching avatar in 3d in theater my eyes hurt the whole day after. i was worried but on third day the pain went away. obviously its not good for your eyes or brain.

lol

but thats how people see the world around them minus the glasses

my eyes hurt when i don't wear glasses

[rkolinski]

To be fair, here is the full Australian article where they "approached several manufacturers for comment and most declined. However, Sony says it had a third party research institute study the impact of 3D viewing on people's health.

Sony says the researchers found no adverse consequences. What's more, the company says any affect to people's health from 3D depends on what they're watching, and content creators are now better at making images that are easier on the eyes."

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2010/s2820271.htm

Of course Mark Pesce, who worked on worked on the virtual reality goggles that gaming manufacturer Sega hoped to introduce in the '90s said that "the company eventually abandoned the product, because of the potential harm it could cause to children who used it for hours on end." This is also in the above-referenced URL.

[Maswov]

So if you cheated the brain into thinking it sees depth on a flat surface wouldn't it just be thinking that it is see what is normal in the world?
Or maybe since it knows that it is a flat surface it can't accept the fact that it is seeing depth even though that is what is perceived. Oh the conflict, our poor brains, maybe we can use this as an excuse to commit crimes.

[rkolinski]

Originally Posted by Maswov

So if you cheated the brain into thinking it sees depth on a flat surface wouldn't it just be thinking that it is see what is normal in the world?
Or maybe since it knows that it is a flat surface it can't accept the fact that it is seeing depth even though that is what is perceived. Oh the conflict, our poor brains, maybe we can use this as an excuse to commit crimes.

Well, I hope you are only being funny but I also read this: "...there are no ways to certify the quality of our 3D products because the lack of government support and also there are not any brilliant ideas to tackle the problems of exhaustion and fatigue caused by watching 3D videos." This is taken from a 3D conference in Korea where they clearly see a large financial and employment return from 3D adoption! http://www.koreaittimes.com/story/73...nce-2010-forum

I'm only suggesting that one keep an open mind when it comes to this latest of technologies. And I think I read somewhere that in Korea at least, they hope to do away with glasses all together by 2015. However, by that time, they will have earned a lot without concern for the early adopter danger issues!

[Maswov]

Not really funny, but more sarcastic, it all just sounds like a bunch of crap to me along the same lines as global warming.

[Hale-Bopp]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

Samsung Issues 3D Health Information

People that are under the influence of alcohol are urged to avoid 3D altogether Isn't that like all of us

Nope. I prefer marijuana myself. Don't drink, plus 3D has never had a negative effect on me as far as I can tell. Can't wait to get really baked and watch 3D at home!

[BluLobsta]

Originally Posted by Hale-Bopp

Nope. I prefer marijuana myself. Don't drink, plus 3D has never had a negative effect on me as far as I can tell. Can't wait to get really baked and watch 3D at home!

Here's something for your munchies dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnR98JjRrII

[Hale-Bopp]

Oh my...it's like heaven on earth! It's so...beautiful!

[Yeha-Noha]

Originally Posted by rkolinski

Personally, I hope 3D fails big time and to use a Latin phrase "praemonitus, praemunitus" - "Forewarned is forearmed!"

I doubt that these health issues will cause 3D to fail. People have been forewarned about the potential risk of brain tumors from cell phone use. Does that stop people from using cell phones? Heck no!

During the 70s and 80s, people were still smoking cigarettes despite warnings from the Surgeon General that cigarette smoking is hazardous to your health. Only years later after fierce regulation, suing the tabacco companies, banning cigarette ads on TV, high taxes on buying cigarettes, forcing smokers to smoke outside of buildings or in designation areas within buildings, and the list goes on, did it finally make an impact. Yet still, some die hard smokers (no pun intended) blatantly ignore the warnings and live with the strick regulations on where you can or can't smoke and the stigma of smoking in public.

It takes years for a product to be taken off the market due to health risk issues. There is no way it will happen before 3D TV goes mainstream.

I certainly hope that it doesn't fail. We have blu-ray whether it be in 2D or 3D because the studio's biggest cash cow is from movies released at the box office. Most movies are made for the big screen box office runs. As long box office profits are high, we will continue to have movies for our 2D and 3D home theaters. 3D movies in commercial theaters will help keep the box office sales up. That is good for blu-ray.