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Old 08-29-2008, 08:17 PM   #1
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Does this site have a standardized approach to movie reviews? Because perfect 5 ratings for movie quality for Redbelt, Starship Troopers, Cloverfield, Commando, and Shoot Em Up are really quite bizarre, even if you adjust for genre expectations. These movies average roughly a 7/10 on imdb, which tends to hold a pretty strong bias in favor of genre flicks.

Now, I'm not trying to call out the reviewers, and I fully realize how subjective opinions are from person to person, but there often seems no rhyme or reason for movie ratings across reviews.

If there isn't a standardized scale in place, it may be a good idea to put one in place. Such obvious outliers can really make you question the reliability of all the other reviews.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:19 PM   #2
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You want to establish a standardized method of subjective critiques? Think about that.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:23 PM   #3
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Usually the only thing I pay attention to in the reviews here are PQ, AQ and occasionally extras.

The only time I pay attention to the review for the movie itself, is if it's something I haven't seen, or I'm on the fence about.

Of course I admit that I get a little angry when I see a movie I love get a low review, or when a movie I hate gets a high one...but when I'm actually paying attention to the MOVIE review, I usually try to see to who is reviewing what and look for the reviewer that has a similar taste in movies as myself.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:26 PM   #4
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I used this little guy to say what I think about the PQ ratings on this site. They hold up very well to other sites and my own ratings.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:30 PM   #5
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i peek at rottentomates.com or megacritic.com or even roger ebert's reviews. i agree it wouldn't be bad to have the reivewer put in some standard movie rating that's less one-person subjective, but then there's the problem of sites such as rotten tomatoes giving Braveheart a 75%, when most people on here have it in their top 10
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:31 PM   #6
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This is about the closest standardized scale you're going to find. Here's how it works.

You must go the movie and write your own review.

Example Cloverfield

If enough memebers give their reviews you may have something along the lines of IMDB. Right now Cloverfield is at 3.6/5 for Movie or 7.6/10 (that's pretty close to IMDB)

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Old 08-29-2008, 08:56 PM   #8
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You want to establish a standardized method of subjective critiques? Think about that.
Yes. It's done all the time in pretty much every aspect of critique (olympic judging, food movie wine and music reviews and ratings) so why not Blu-Ray reviews. See DVDbeaver for a decent system.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:57 PM   #9
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See DVDbeaver for a decent system.
DVDBeaver usually don't review the movie but quote a critic.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:58 PM   #10
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Yes. It's done all the time in pretty much every aspect of critique (olympic judging, food movie wine and music reviews and ratings) so why not Blu-Ray reviews. See DVDbeaver for a decent system.


All of those things are subjective!!! It is imposible to create objective form of critique based on opinion.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:00 PM   #11
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All of those things are subjective!!! It is imposible to create objective form of critique based on opinion.
The only reasonable way to put a standardized measure of movie rating is by getting a general consensus rating ala Tomotometer or Metacritic, and even then smaller titles can be skewed because fewer reviewers have seen them.

I personally like opinionated reviews because you can get a sense for whether or not you typically agree with the reviewer on their previous reviews and judge their reviews on movies you haven't seen through that lense.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:08 PM   #12
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In my opinion, Netflix pretty much destroys any other film rating system out there - nothing else even comes close at least for raw scores. Using the Braveheart example:
  • Metacritic has a 66/100 favorable critic score from 21 reviews.
  • Rotten Tomatoes has a 76/100 favorable critic score from 46 reviews.
  • IMDb has an 83/100 user rating from 185,616 votes.
  • Netflix has an 86/100 user rating from 2,396,127 votes.

Added to the sheer order-of-magnitude Netflix advantage in input is the extra mile they go by presenting a customized adjusted rating estimate based on your likes and dislikes using their score-weighting algorithms. It's hard to imagine someone else catching up to Netflix's recommendation system anytime soon (although their user text reviews are not that great compared to Amazon and IMDb).

With all that said, I do appreciate the Blu-ray reviewers on this site giving their personal insights into the film itself and I greatly enjoy reading them.
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Old 08-30-2008, 03:33 AM   #13
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You want to establish a standardized method of subjective critiques? Think about that.
Not a standardized method, a standardized scale. I can appreciate the comments about subjectivity, but I feel a higher score should reliably predict higher quality than a lower score.

Don't you think it's a little wacky that all of those movies got a better quality rating than Batman Begins (4.5), Kingdom of Heaven (2.5), The Last Samurai (3.0), POTC (4.5), the first Superman (4.0), Troy (3.5), V for Vendetta (3.5)?
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i peek at rottentomates.com or megacritic.com or even roger ebert's reviews. i agree it wouldn't be bad to have the reivewer put in some standard movie rating that's less one-person subjective, but then there's the problem of sites such as rotten tomatoes giving Braveheart a 75%, when most people on here have it in their top 10
Personally..........anyone who believes what the"professionals" say, needs their head examined.They could of had a bad day,etc, and don't give a crap or are biased before the review.....Frickin' sad that we live in a world where people SIMPLY CAN NOT MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ANYMORE. They have to rely on others to help them decide.............pathetic! (remember people are paid off in this world everywhere, everyday, for just things like this!) "Hey we'll give you 10 grand to bragg up our new movie, and create a "buzz"........to sell more movie tickets and dvd's. The sad part is we do not ever know about it.If you honestly think that things like this don't happen....you should pack up now,and move to mars.....

Roger ebert?.........give me a break. If it isn't OSCAR WORTHY he won't like it, he'll just say "it was a fun film", I'll recommend it".........He is an opinionated ass

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Just worry about picture/audio quality. Make up your own mind about your like/dislike for the film.

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I really wish you all would lay off of the reviewers. IMHO they do a great job with a pretty daunting task. It's surely something that I couldn't do nearly as well as they do. Buy / rent the bloody movie if you don't trust their reviews. The bottom line is that there is no such thing as a 'perfect' review as it is in the eye of the beholder.
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Just worry about picture/audio quality. Make up your own mind about your like/dislike for the film.
Dude you hit it right on the Head!!!!!
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