Can the PS3 run Blu-rays at 720p?

[dseb1985]

im new to blu-ray just bought a ps3 and i got 300 and HELLBOY with it....im just wondering because on the back of the case it says nothing about 720p but i prefer it to 1080i...

[Pilam69]

It should automatically detect the best for you but you can tell it not to output at 1080i. During your initial setup of the system you should have had to tell it what your tv could do, you just need to tweak that setting. It should play fine after that.

[aristotles]

Be sure to update your PS3 to the latest firmware. The latest is 1.90 and I believe 1.8 added downscaling to 720p for Blu-ray titles. If your TV is 720p native, you can adjust the PS3 display settings to have 720p as the highest available resolution which will mean that your BD's will display at 720p.

[peter99]

I have a 720p TV and I have it on 1080i and 720p. Is it good to have it on 1080i?

[dseb1985]

Originally Posted by peter99

I have a 720p TV and I have it on 1080i and 720p. Is it good to have it on 1080i?

this is why i asked because i remember reading that the ps3 had a problem with running at 720p....i hate useing 1080i because 720p is so much beter especially for gameing

[Iceman_II]

I believe that problem was before they enabled the upscaling engine (which I believe also performs the down scaling)

[CptGreedle]

All Blu-ray disc players can handle 720, and all true HDTVs have to have at least 720 to be called HDTV. If you want to change your PS3 setting manually I think there is a way but it should detect what you TV can handle automatically so you should always see the best image available.

[statikcat]

Once PS3 detects your system it will likely default to 1080i. Then go into the display settings and you can uncheck 1080i and leave 720p checked. This will force the PS3 to display at 720p at all times.

I took my PS3 over to my dads a few weeks ago and had to remove 720i so it would default to 480p .. otherwise one of my games would blank out his tv.

[Pilam69]

Originally Posted by CptGreedle

All Blu-ray disc players can handle 720, and all true HDTVs have to have at least 720 to be called HDTV. If you want to change your PS3 setting manually I think there is a way but it should detect what you TV can handle automatically so you should always see the best image available.

What if it thinks 1080i is the best but you want 720p? That's why he needs to manually configure it to max out at 720p. Otherwise he is likely going to get 1080i.

[Genocide316]

whats wrong with 1080i? I have a 50" plasma that is 1080i and this is what I run everything at. Blu-Ray's look amazing and so do my games. Now on a smaller TV (32") I can't really tell the difference between a 1080i signal and 720P but maybe thats just me.

[Sielle]

Don't use the auto detection for your TV (or use auto detection then go in an modify it) and you can specifically set the PS3 to not use 1080i.

[victorvondoom88]

The ps3 has no trouble running movies @1080i the only issue I know of is RB6 vegas at 1080i/p it looks blurry. My front projector can accept a 1080p signal which is what it was at until I got RB6 I got tired of switching my res between this game and movie watching so no I leave it at 720p.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by Genocide316

whats wrong with 1080i? I have a 50" plasma that is 1080i and this is what I run everything at. Blu-Ray's look amazing and so do my games. Now on a smaller TV (32") I can't really tell the difference between a 1080i signal and 720P but maybe thats just me.

Nothing. In a nutshell, 720p is generally considered better because it draws the entire frame in one cycle with 720 lines, unlike 1080i which takes 2 cycles of 540 interlaced lines to draw one 1080 frame. By the time 1080i completes 2 cycles to draw the one 1080 frame, 720p will have drawn 2 frames @ 720 lines ea., so 1440 lines.

It doesn't mean 1080i is bad, just that 720p should look better overall.

[Icemage]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Nothing. In a nutshell, 720p is generally considered better because it draws the entire frame in one cycle with 720 lines, unlike 1080i which takes 2 cycles of 540 interlaced lines to draw one 1080 frame. By the time 1080i completes 2 cycles to draw the one 1080 frame, 720p will have drawn 2 frames @ 720 lines ea., so 1440 lines.

It doesn't mean 1080i is bad, just that 720p should look better overall.

This doesn't apply to Blu-ray movies usually, which are typically encoded at 1080p/24 fps. There's more than enough bandwidth to send a 1080i/60fps signal that matches the same amount of picture data; what happens is the display should deinterlace the 1080i signal back into 1080p/24 or 1080p/60.

That said, a lot of players do a better job of downscaling 1080p to 720p versus displays that deinterlace and downscale 1080i to 720p for display since the act of deinterlacing can be screwed up by the display and/or receiver.

Generally speaking, "most" users with 720p sets will end up with crisper images from 720p output as opposed to 1080i output because it puts less performance pressure on their display hardware, but I'd recommend that any users with a 720p native resolution set try both signal types with a good quality high detail animation title like Chicken Little to see which one they prefer.

[peter99]

Originally Posted by dseb1985

this is why i asked because i remember reading that the ps3 had a problem with running at 720p....i hate useing 1080i because 720p is so much beter especially for gameing

yhe you gat a point because the games is 720p but not Lair it is 1080i.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Nothing. In a nutshell, 720p is generally considered better because it draws the entire frame in one cycle with 720 lines, unlike 1080i which takes 2 cycles of 540 interlaced lines to draw one 1080 frame. By the time 1080i completes 2 cycles to draw the one 1080 frame, 720p will have drawn 2 frames @ 720 lines ea., so 1440 lines.

It doesn't mean 1080i is bad, just that 720p should look better overall.

720p is considered more advanced.

Better is entirely dependent upon context...higher resolution can trump more lines, it depends on what you are doing.

For example, putting a slideshow in 720p rather than 1080i would just be silly and pointless.

For most games I prefer higher resolution to more lines as well. I can't really see the more lines, but I sure can see the higher resolution.

For me, the only games which break that mold are twitch games, they "feel" better in 720p.

[Proteus]

I would encourage everyone to read this post a gentleman made on the playstation forums concerning the 720p vs 1080i issue. It was extremely well written and he is certainly qualified.

http://boardsus.playstation.com/play...cending&page=1

After you read it you will understand why you should ALWAYS use progressive signals on digital displays such as LCD and plasma. Only bother with interlaced on CRT's.

Most games only include a 1080i option (RB6, for example) to allow backwards compatibility with people who have last gen 'HD' televisions that only do 480i, 480p and 1080i. If the game was only 720p, it would be crapped down to 480p unless a 1080i signal was an option.

No modern gamer should ever use an interlaced signal, to be honest. The motion artifacting drives me crazy, I don't know how people can play with that happening. :P

Edit: Wanted to add... Originally, the PS3 listed resolutions in the appropriate quality order (480p, 1080i, 720p, 1080p); however, a few firmware patches back they switched it due to consumer confusion (it's now 720p, 1080i, 1080p) which was probably a bad decision on their part. Originally, you could set it to 720p and 1080i would then automatically be included so your games/BD's would run at the best resolution always. Not the case necessarily now. Someone did mention that Blu-ray's actually only support 1080p/i and 480p on the PS3 and that you must run 1080i settings or it will be degraded to 480p. If true, this would be another negative to changing the resolution orders on the list. Maybe they did something in recent firmware to allow BD's to run at 720p to make listing in this order possible... Who knows.

[crackinhedz]

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