HD DVD: We're Not at War with Blu-ray

[DJeffries]

Hope this wasn't posted yet. Article came out same day as Paramount announcement.

http://www.betanews.com/article/HD_D...ray/1187630265

[hyperdine]

"In fact, the HD DVD group was open to the idea of working jointly with Blu-ray to help convince more consumers to join the high-definition bandwagon, and welcomed the arrival of hybrid HD DVD/Blu-ray players from LG and Samsung"

Of course they were. They just want a stalemate so that everyone can move to downloading...courtesy of M$.

[dadkins]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

Of course they were. They just want a stalemate so that everyone can move to downloading...courtesy of M$.

ISPs are going to have to SERIOUSLY crank the bandwidth for the download model to be workable.

Paxio customers can do it... not the rest of us though.

[JTK]

I'm not sure if this is just rank hubris, bald face lying...oh wait, it's all of the above.

[ps3andlovinit]

Originally Posted by DJeffries

Hope this wasn't posted yet. Article came out same day as Paramount announcement.

http://www.betanews.com/article/HD_D...ray/1187630265

And the Department of Defense was renamed from the Department of War because it made them seem more benign.

[Blu As Hell]

Originally Posted by JTK

I'm not sure if this is just rank hubris, bald face lying...oh wait, it's all of the above.

All of those answers are correct!!!!! Tell him what he's won Bob!!!!


The HD DVD group is so full of sh*t. You and Microsoft pull of this Paramount thing and you say you are not at war with Blu-Ray!? You say that you encourage hybrid players!? If that was the case you wouldn't give a damn if the studios put out movies on both formats!!!!!!

[DJeffries]

I found the subject link on Doom9. They’re using it to try and justify their HD-DuD biased rhetoric.

Actually with MS at the helm of the HD-DVD Promotions group I can somewhat believe that Blu-ray is not the war but just the first battle against optical media. Doesn’t mean they are not pulling out all stops to defeat BD. MS does has a lot of practice at misrepresentation.

[The Bus]

Originally Posted by hyperdine

Of course they were. They just want a stalemate so that everyone can move to downloading...courtesy of M$.

So Toshiba wants to go broke in order to help M$, excuse me, Microsoft?

That doesn't seem to make sense.

[stockstar1138]

Originally Posted by The Bus

So Toshiba wants to go broke in order to help M$, excuse me, Microsoft?

That doesn't seem to make sense.

i don't think you get whats happening. tosh isn't selling those players and movies at a loss, MS is heavily subsidizing them so Tosh stays in the market with cheap prices. MS is buying them studios now, Tosh isn't losing anything, they are actually gaining because uncertainty for the time being keeps their DVD royalties up. Then when DVD kicks the bucket, since MS created so much confusion with HDM, we go to DL content via MS. Both Tosh and MS come out ahead.

[CAB]

Toshiba is committed because they've been losing, what, $100+ per player for a year and a half? They have to sell their soul to M$ just to stay in the game.

I don't want to support a monopoly. Who can afford to pay the Toshiba royalties and licensing to make players if they win and their balance sheet is blood red? They'll be able to charge what they want for their players. Likewise with letting Microsoft having control over the encode. All of it is fraught with peril. People can call me a Sony fanboy but I own Pioneer, Denon, Apple (I dig my Apple TV), JVC, Paradigm. I'm making a format decision based on quality, longevity and good business.

-CB

[Anthony P]

ISPs are going to have to SERIOUSLY crank the bandwidth for the download model to be workable.

depends what you mean by DL. You had CD there was a war between SACD and DVD-A and crappy MP3 won. real bad bittorent is available now for people without scruples. There can be DL as long as people are willing to sacrifice quality. Why do you think MS would care about quality? Have they ever done it?

[Anthony P]

Toshiba is committed because they've been losing, what, $100+ per player for a year and a half? They have to sell their soul to M$ just to stay in the game.

not at all. Toshiba wins if BD loses. That is all they care about. If BD wins (becomes the next mass format) Toshiba loses the revenue they are getting from DVD royalties. If HD DVD wins then the DVD royalties get replaced by HD DVD royalties, so in essence it is just shuffling.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by DJeffries

Hope this wasn't posted yet. Article came out same day as Paramount announcement.

http://www.betanews.com/article/HD_D...ray/1187630265

As long as the consumers get screwed on royalty costs, it's all right I guess.

I mean, not like back before either format hit the ground running there weren't earnest attempts on both sides to have just a single format out there instead of opting for a format war. Nope, not at all.

[Glow007]

The truth is from HD-DVDs standpoint it is very simple....They know they cannot win this war. So they want the next best thing...peace.

That is why they have paid all that money for 18 months of exclusitivity from Paramount. They know that for the war to truly end all studios will have to be either all neutral or all exclusive to one format or the other. That 18 months may be enough time to work a deal out with Sony. They know Sony, Disney, and Fox are not going to turncoat on a superior format, so the next best thing is a draw and both formats continue with combo players.

HD-DVD cannot knock out BD but BD CAN knock out HD-DVD and they know this. They want to come to terms so that Toshiba can keep its royalties from HD-DVD and they dont lose completely on this HUGH investment they have made by HD-DVD dying completely.

Its better to coexist than to not exist at all.

Glow

[gandley]

Did you scroll down and read the comments, so much crap being hurled around it was untrue. even saying that HD-DVD has the much better AQ. man those guys are idiots.