Spoke with my friend who works at Toshiba Japan.

[MozartMan]

Very interesting thread on AVS

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=900995

Originally Posted by d3code

Spoke with my friend who works at Toshiba Japan.

today called with my Japanese friend who works at Toshiba.

i had a long talk with him about the recent developments of Toshiba. not only HD-DVD but also about the new TV they are working on etc.

anyway before you flame me to death that it is not true etc. i dont claim what i put in this thread is true. just see it as a different kind of opinion. normally we get always fed stuff from 1 side on here. the USA part. now we just get an opinion for the Japanese part. i can nowhere compare if what he tells me is true. he ain't at the top of the food chain. he is a manager but not high up. but at least he works in Toshiba in Japan.

below i put just some small quotes of that conversation.

1. can 1st , second, third generation HD-DVd players play tripple layer discs ? ( 45gb / 51gb )

according to my friend, it is not possible.

2. who paid the money for Paramount go exclusive to HD-DVD?

my friend said that the word in the office is that Toshiba made the deal. but how the exact deal is he had no idea.

3. does Toshiba loses money on the cheapest HD-DVD players?

he said yes and it also divides Toshiba in 2 camps. 1 side wants to stop the war. the other side want to continue it.

4. how far is the development on the new TV where you can download and watch high def movies on.

pretty far in development. they will show it next Ceatec show in October in japan. it has like 3 ports. 1 lan port, 1 japanese port, 1 standard tv port.

that japanese port, he explained is a port that only works on japanese tv network. the exact name i forgot.

about the tv. you see a screen. you use the tv remote select the movie in which format you want to watch HD yes or no and download it and watch it. you can also save it on the harddisk in the tv.

before you all go screaming bloody murder. for Toshiba HD-DVd is just 1 step. their main step is towards downloading. specially since in Korea and Japan internet speeds are cheap and fast. 100mbit cost like 30 euro a month. so it makes perfect sense for all the Japanese manufactures to deliver movies by download trough the networks.

anyway that pretty much sums it up. if you guys have some more questions to ask. i could ask him, but don't expect direct answers. i don't talk with this guy regularly. just once or twice a month.

[darkprime]

Very interesting and to the point. Thanks for sharing this.

[WickyWoo]

I'd say it's likely valid, it matches rumblings anyway. The deal is likely with Arianne, because it's the only DBS that's owned by Japanese and J companies like to keep it "in the family"

I love how the AVSers did their usual game of find/replace on the post with their usual crap.

[gand41f]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

I'd say it's likely valid, it matches rumblings anyway. The deal is likely with Arianne, because it's the only DBS that's owned by Japanese and J companies like to keep it "in the family"

I love how the AVSers did their usual game of find/replace on the post with their usual crap.

Man, their fixation on the 45/51GB dream is amazing! Can't they read, 30GB is enough!

Seriously though, HD DVD's real problem is bandwidth, not total capacity. Even the triple-layer discs can't help you there....

enjoy
gandalf

[HDJK]

Originally Posted by gand41f

Man, their fixation on the 45/51GB dream is amazing! Can't they read, 30GB is enough!

Seriously though, HD DVD's real problem is bandwidth, not total capacity. Even the triple-layer discs can't help you there....

enjoy
gandalf

But amir said about a year ago that all you will ever need is 9mbit/s within 6 months. Do you mean to tell me he lied?

[Chris Gerhard]

It may be an actual conversation with someone at Toshiba with first hand knowledge about the situation. I think it sounds reasonable but there is no way to know.

Chris

[Blu-Style]

3. does Toshiba loses money on the cheapest HD-DVD players?

he said yes and it also divides Toshiba in 2 camps.
1 side wants to stop the war. the other side want to continue it.

Even some HDDVD supporter don´t trust in their medium...

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by Blu-Style

Even some HDDVD supporter don´t trust in their medium...

To be fair, most likely is because they are bleeding green right now. It might not be the medium but profits might and pretty sure are not there on the player side.

The port your talking about is called D5 is for Pal shit, 525P, 525i, 1125i, 750P.

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Style-e/...000/index.html
go to the bottom of the page where is says check 9 click it and you will see it.

[gand41f]

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

The port your talking about is called D5 is for Pal shit, 525P, 525i, 1125i, 750P.

http://www.jp.sonystyle.com/Style-e/...000/index.html
go to the bottom of the page where is says check 9 click it and you will see it.

No, Japan is NTSC. The D-terminal is electronically equivalent to component. D1-D5 represent the max resolution (480i, 480p, 1080i, 720p, 1080p) that the set can accept, not a physical difference in the terminal. You can purchase a D-terminal to component adapter cable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-Terminal

I don't know why they sometimes use 525p instead of 480p in their documents. (Just a guess, since it's an analog signal, there are some "dark" lines sent while the TV's electron beam moves back from the bottom to the top? That was how it used to be with the CRT monitors, a 1024-line screen actually had about 1080 lines sent.)

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gandalf

[Deciazulado]

btw Pal is 576/625 line system

the 525 is NTSC: 486/525

(480 is for MPEG-compression)