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Old 09-15-2007, 07:56 PM   #1
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When buying BD discs, I've never even looked at the HD section so I've never checked out the prices. Toshiba has always said that one of the advantages of HD (as opposed to BluRay) is that it's discs are cheaper to manufacture and that they can be stamped out on slightly modified standard-def equipment. Assuming this is true, are the savings being passed along to the consumer? I am confident that BluRay disc prices will fall once the format becomes "mass market" and most titles sell in the millions.
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Old 09-15-2007, 08:19 PM   #2
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No, savings are not passed along to the consumer. Just look at Warner's prices. And back when they can't be bought, look at Paramount's too.


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Old 09-15-2007, 08:34 PM   #3
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More like look at the absurd prices Universal charges for their new HD's like the HD DVD and DVD flippers, 39.99 to 34.99 for new titles its insane.
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Old 09-16-2007, 12:28 AM   #4
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We should not give HD DVD any bright ideas!
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:40 PM   #5
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More like look at the absurd prices Universal charges for their new HD's like the HD DVD and DVD flippers, 39.99 to 34.99 for new titles its insane.
Why in the hell would you buy a HD-DVD combo when you know no one would watch the DVD side! That is just LAME!
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Old 09-16-2007, 06:55 PM   #6
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When buying BD discs, I've never even looked at the HD section so I've never checked out the prices. Toshiba has always said that one of the advantages of HD (as opposed to BluRay) is that it's discs are cheaper to manufacture and that they can be stamped out on slightly modified standard-def equipment. Assuming this is true, are the savings being passed along to the consumer? I am confident that BluRay disc prices will fall once the format becomes "mass market" and most titles sell in the millions.
THE real telling factor of this is look at the cost of blank media:

Verbatim HD DVD-R 15GB 1 Speed HD DVD-R

Price £9.20 inc VAT [FREE UK Delivery]

http://www.tonik.co.uk/search.php?ke...&search=Search

NOW LETS LOOK AT THE COST OF BLU-RAY BLANK

Verbatim BD-R 25GB 1-2 Speed BD-R

Price £12.93 inc VAT [FREE UK Delivery]
http://www.tonik.co.uk/search.php?ke...&search=Search

HD DVD-: FOR 15 GB disc is USD:$18.46
BLU-RAY-: FOR 25 GB DISC IS USD:$26.00

SO FOR $8.00 MORE YOU 10 MORE GB WORTH OF SPACE...
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Old 09-16-2007, 07:14 PM   #7
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Why in the hell would you buy a HD-DVD combo when you know no one would watch the DVD side! That is just LAME!
EXACTLY if i want DVD i would just get the DVD if you know you are going to watch a HD DVD movie over someone's house that does not have a HD DVD player what's the point.

or better yet if you know you have only a single
HD DVD player in your whole house but more than a few DVD players that is the only point in a flipper DISC if you buy the HD DVD movie with the DVD flipper is so you can take that same movie and watch it on a DVD player other than the HD DVD player.

So once again how does that help with the extra features on the HD DVD side it does not. so you still end up watching a movie with the same as IF YOU WOULD HAVE BOUGHT THE DVD except for the one player in your house. unless you buy more than one HD DVD player anyway.

even MOVIE BUFF's have how manyDVD players ARE in their house...?
what about J6P maybe HOW many DVD player does J6P have....

does The HD DVD promotional group realy think that J6P is going to OUTFIT their house more than (1) HD MOVIE PLAYER unless that movie player gets below $100.00 more like below $50.00 anyway....not to many people i know have more than (2) DVD players anyway if you count a game system that would be (3) maybe (4) depending on kids. its mainly family room and parents bed room. with the older kids haveing their own but that is mainly a game system anyway.

flipper disc's are a waste of money in my OPINION unless each room in you house has a HDTV,AND A HD DVD player to get the most out of it above STANDARD DVD.

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Old 09-16-2007, 07:50 PM   #8
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HD-DVD charge 0.61 pence per GB
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Old 09-16-2007, 08:53 PM   #9
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Toshiba has always said that one of the advantages of HD (as opposed to BluRay) is that it's discs are cheaper to manufacture and that they can be stamped out on slightly modified standard-def equipment.
Despite Toshiba's claims, I haven't noticed much of a difference in price between BD & HD-DVD in the stores. Most are between $20-$30. So much for that advantage...
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:00 PM   #10
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Despite Toshiba's claims, I haven't noticed much of a difference in price between BD & HD-DVD in the stores. Most are between $20-$30. So much for that advantage...
and as we pointed out..they do not have that advantage as they like for people to think they have. from a consumer standpoint..look at the cost in blank media its showing exactly what the cost per disc per GB is and blu-ray is cheaper. so HD DVD and their touting cheaper to produce was maybe true a while back but is not now...
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:06 PM   #11
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Well obviously we have the media part down, now we need the player side and down goes fallen.
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Old 09-16-2007, 09:31 PM   #12
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THE real telling factor of this is look at the cost of blank media:

Verbatim HD DVD-R 15GB 1 Speed HD DVD-R

Price £9.20 inc VAT [FREE UK Delivery]

http://www.tonik.co.uk/search.php?ke...&search=Search

NOW LETS LOOK AT THE COST OF BLU-RAY BLANK

Verbatim BD-R 25GB 1-2 Speed BD-R

Price £12.93 inc VAT [FREE UK Delivery]
http://www.tonik.co.uk/search.php?ke...&search=Search

HD DVD-: FOR 15 GB disc is USD:$18.46
BLU-RAY-: FOR 25 GB DISC IS USD:$26.00

SO FOR $8.00 MORE YOU 10 MORE GB WORTH OF SPACE...
This has nothing to do with what it costs a movie studio for a blank disc. Well under $1.50 per disc for a movie studio. Take a look at the 5 disc version of blade runner on blu-ray which costs the same as the 1 disc version of 300 on hd-dvd. Under $28 on Amazon. That's with the disc manufacturer, the movie studio, and the retailer all making a profit off of the sale.
Not an attack. Just wanted to clarify that the blank discs aren't at all expensive if your buying a truckload of them from the manufacturer.

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Old 09-16-2007, 10:14 PM   #13
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Take a look at the 5 disc version of blade runner on blu-ray which costs the same as the 1 disc version of 300 on hd-dvd
At most 2 of those are actual HD discs BTW, the rest are $0.50 DVDs
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Old 09-17-2007, 03:01 PM   #14
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This has nothing to do with what it costs a movie studio for a blank disc. Well under $1.50 per disc for a movie studio. Take a look at the 5 disc version of blade runner on blu-ray which costs the same as the 1 disc version of 300 on hd-dvd. Under $28 on Amazon. That's with the disc manufacturer, the movie studio, and the retailer all making a profit off of the sale.
Not an attack. Just wanted to clarify that the blank discs aren't at all expensive if your buying a truckload of them from the manufacturer.
i know that is not what i was pointing out..i was pointing out that the key indication of media cost for the consumer in OPTICAL formats is to look at the cost to the consumer at retail for blank media. i was not talking about studios..sorry if i indicated that. i was not trying too. but you bet i agree 100% with what you said about movie studios. and when you buy truck loads.of blank disc's...
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... and why are hd-dvd selling blanks when we can't even find hd-dvd burner ?
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Old 09-18-2007, 11:12 AM   #16
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... and why are hd-dvd selling blanks when we can't even find hd-dvd burner ?
because there is a shortage of high quality coasters...

sorry i could not resist..they are just getting blanks ready for their 1x HD DVD burners for Toshiba laptops...SINCE AS FAR AS I KNOW ONLY Toshiba IS MAKEING THE BURNERS FOR HD DVD optical drive's right now.
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