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Old 09-21-2007, 03:13 PM   #1
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Question Does it exist "100Hz" Full HD 1080p LCD TV for sale?

Hi all,

Sorry for asking stupid question but I couldn't find any info searching the google.

All I know is that there exist HD-Ready (720p) 1080i 100Hz LCD TV but what about Full HD 1080p in 100Hz??? (Hz = screen refresh rate)

Looking at the price for the same size LCD TV HD-Ready (720p) 1080i in 100Hz actually cost aprox the same as Full HD 1080p in 60Hz. If Full HD 1080p LCD TV in 100Hz exist for sale in the market what would the price be?

In advance thanks for your answares



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Old 09-21-2007, 03:20 PM   #2
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Who is the manufacturer. I am not aware of any LCD that runs at 100hz. It sounds fishy.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:20 PM   #3
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New ones just coming out rom LG are 120hz.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:26 PM   #4
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Samsung's F8 series (available in 40" and 46" are 100/120Hz and 1080p FullHD).

Sharp have some as well, but 46" and up I believe.
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:29 PM   #5
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Samsung: LE-40F86 + LE-46F86

Sharp: LC-46XL1E /XL2E + LC-52XL1E /XL2E

I don't know the overseas model no.'s though...
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:34 PM   #6
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Who is the manufacturer. I am not aware of any LCD that runs at 100hz. It sounds fishy.
This Sony BRAVIA HD-Ready (720p, 1080i) 40" LCD-TV KDL-40D3000E is running at 100Hz:



Now it would be awesome if exist the same size LCD TV Full HD 1080p running at 100Hz for sale, therefore I was asking..

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Samsung's F8 series (available in 40" and 46" are 100/120Hz and 1080p FullHD).

Sharp have some as well, but 46" and up I believe.
Just saw your post right now, thanks alot but what about the price in comparison to other Full HD 1080p running at 60Hz only?

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Old 09-21-2007, 03:39 PM   #7
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why would U want 100 hz lcd? it is completely inapropriate for movies, imho...
pic looks very unreal, very strange motion... i prefer 1080p at 50/60 hz...
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Old 09-21-2007, 03:50 PM   #8
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why would U want 100 hz lcd? it is completely inapropriate for movies, imho...
pic looks very unreal, very strange motion... i prefer 1080p at 50/60 hz...
Let me tell you why..

Becuase in my living room I got my 40'' LCD HDTV connected to my gaming PC (as well as my PS3), in other words I'm using my 40'' LCD HDTV as a PC monitor. If you're using 40'' LCD HDTV as a PC monitor you'll discover that 60Hz flickers ALOT more then 100Hz which mean in long term not good for your eyes. Otherwise 100Hz refresh rate flows and keeping the screen images alot more stable then 60Hz.

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Let me give you an example.. To your PC, go to the "Display Proporties" - "Settings" - "Advanced" - "Monitor"

From there set your "Screen Refresh Rate" to 60hz and then back to 100Hz (or 120Hz), you'll discover that 100Hz (or 120Hz) the screen flickers ALOT less with much more stable images then 60Hz only. IMO the 100Hz or 120Hz will always be better then 60Hz and secondly it's more healthier for your eyes.

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Old 09-21-2007, 04:03 PM   #9
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sorry, i still dont understand... since i have mac-mini as well as ps3 hooked to 37 1080p lcdtv... and 2 pcs on 24 lcd monitor, all on perfectly apsolutely non-flickering 60 hz...
how the hell lcd image can ficker? maybe it is just me, but teoretically, bay the laws of physics and electronics, it is impossible... this is not crt tube and rushig of electrons...
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Old 09-21-2007, 04:06 PM   #10
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btw, it is even better when i put my monitor on 1900x1200 on 60 hz then on a 75 hz...
all U just added above is true only for crt monitors, i dont even remeber when i used last one
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I would think any panel made for doing digital signage would serve your purpose, wouldn't it?
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sorry, i still dont understand... since i have mac-mini as well as ps3 hooked to 37 1080p lcdtv... and 2 pcs on 24 lcd monitor, all on perfectly apsolutely non-flickering 60 hz...
how the hell lcd image can ficker? maybe it is just me, but teoretically, bay the laws of physics and electronics, it is impossible... this is not crt tube and rushig of electrons...
Try my methods abow on a regular PC (not from a MAC mini) with a PC monitor that support high resolution with 100Hz. It's VERY diffecult to see in the first place the difference in 60Hz and 100Hz but if you study long enough and use your PC continuerly for more then lets say 8 hours straight you'll discover that your eyes gets ALOT more tired (leading to easier headache) with 60Hz refresh rate then 100Hz refresh rate.

Trust me on this. Let me give you an example. A while back at my office I had an old PC LCD monitor that could only run refresh rate at 60Hz. Everytime I worked overtime sitting continuerly at the office in front of the screen for more then 10 hours straight I ALWAYS ending up getting a terrible headache when I got home. My doctor adviced me that at my office I should change to a new PC monitor that supports a screen refresh rate of more then 100Hz. I asked my boss to change a new PC minitor and guess what? I could continuerly sit infront of the screen for over 10 hours straight, sometimes up to 16 hours without getting the headache and tire my eyes. That's why I also want my LCD HDTV at home to run at 100Hz at the highest maximum resolution. Trust me once again I've seen the difference in 60Hz and 100Hz so many times that I can tell the difference. It is no joke that I tell you 60Hz is more unstable and flickers more then 100Hz..

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btw, it is even better when i put my monitor on 1900x1200 on 60 hz then on a 75 hz...
Please try the differencies between 60Hz and 100Hz or 120Hz, not 60Hz and 75Hz..

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Old 09-21-2007, 05:35 PM   #13
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100/120Hz technology eliminates motion blur/judder. Period. It is a fact "bay the laws of physics and electronics".
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For an accurate motion display of feature films, you would want a monitor capable of displaying it multiples of 24fps - 48Hz, 72Hz, 96Hz, 120Hz, etc.

These conform to a film projector with a two, three, four or five-bladed shutter. Otherwise, there will be uneven or staggered motion introduced, as when displaying 24fps material at 60Hz. A forced 100Hz would cause this uneven motion as well, but at 96Hz or 120Hz the motion would be very smooth.
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100/120Hz technology eliminates motion blur/judder. Period. It is a fact "bay the laws of physics and electronics".
i have none on 60hz lcd tv with hd content, sd dvd or digital tv... only with analog tuner, who cares for that...
but i have seen 100 hz in store, theres no that "normal" motion blur... horse in galop DOES NOT look normally, like in nature... it is like it galops through some continuous fluid... very, very strange...
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Who is the manufacturer. I am not aware of any LCD that runs at 100hz. It sounds fishy.
For PAL compatibility maybe? (PAL being 50Hz (576i50 for 25fps of image); you first display as progressive then interpolate extra frames to 100Hz to reduce motion blur? Guessing here.)
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Try my methods abow on a regular PC (not from a MAC mini) with a PC monitor that support high resolution with 100Hz. It's VERY diffecult to see in the first place the difference in 60Hz and 100Hz but if you study long enough and use your PC continuerly for more then lets say 8 hours straight you'll discover that your eyes gets ALOT more tired (leading to easier headache) with 60Hz refresh rate then 100Hz refresh rate.

Trust me on this. Let me give you an example. A while back at my office I had an old PC LCD monitor that could only run refresh rate at 60Hz. Everytime I worked overtime sitting continuerly at the office in front of the screen for more then 10 hours straight I ALWAYS ending up getting a terrible headache when I got home. My doctor adviced me that at my office I should change to a new PC monitor that supports a screen refresh rate of more then 100Hz. I asked my boss to change a new PC minitor and guess what? I could continuerly sit infront of the screen for over 10 hours straight, sometimes up to 16 hours without getting the headache and tire my eyes. That's why I also want my LCD HDTV at home to run at 100Hz at the highest maximum resolution. Trust me once again I've seen the difference in 60Hz and 100Hz so many times that I can tell the difference. It is no joke that I tell you 60Hz is more unstable and flickers more then 100Hz..



Please try the differencies between 60Hz and 100Hz or 120Hz, not 60Hz and 75Hz..
I still dont know what are U talking about, sorry. Plz name me HR PC monitor with native resolution above 60 hz. Even 30 inch gigants at 25600x1600 run at 60 hz best. If they are "old pc lcd monitors", then we are not from the same planet. I recently bought wonderful 24'' Dell, it is even hdcp, it is new, and can not hold 100 hz, neither it needs it. All this about eyes worked with crts, since i went to lcds, have no any eye trouble at all. And that your doctor adviced U to use 100 hz lcd is awesome! What a doctor, man... Are U sure your old monitor at work was lcd?
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I still dont know what are U talking about, sorry. Plz name me HR PC monitor with native resolution above 60 hz.
LOL! I have no idea how to explain further to you. Please you have to excuse my English.

Lets forget about high resolution then. Simply explained lets use a standard PC monitor with resolution of 1024x768 while using Windows, now switch between 60Hz and 120Hz and try to notice the difference, des lower the hertz the more poor it is.. Plain and simple.

The thing I notice on a PC monitor is that des higher the screen resolution des lower will the Hertz be set to. Personally I never tends to set my PC monitor to the highest screen resolution possible; I set the screen resolution to the exact correct number the 100Hz is allowed, other words if I set the resolution to higher numbers the Hertz will be downscalled. I prefer exact 100Hz (not lower) because it doesn't hurt my eyes, 60Hz hurts my eyes and often in most cases leads for me to get a headache; this has been proven at work.

My old PC monitor at work was old and could not support higher then 60Hz no matter what screen resolution, I changed to a new PC monitor that supported 100Hz and since then I was never bothered with gettings headaches or tire my eyes sitting infront of the screen for several hours a day. I notice a clear difference between 60Hz and 100Hz that the 60Hz flickers more (which was not good for my eyes). If you still don't understand what I'm talking about then forget the whole thing, my english doesn't get better then this, sorry. Personally I think you're being stubborn..

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