Blu-ray scratch protection coating is so cool! - Blu-ray Forum

Chiyo_chichi · 08-15-2009, 07:34 PM

You know? Of all the features BD has, you don't hear about it that much imo. But I really love it.

When I bought dvds, I used to hate whenever I got scratches on em'...even light ones that would not affect the playing of the flick. But with the special coating on BDs its like literally impossible to unintentionally scratch em' up.

...lol

Mr.White · 08-15-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiyo_chichi

You know? Of all the features BD has, you don't hear about it that much imo. But I really love it.

When I bought dvds, I used to hate whenever I got scratches on em'...even light ones that would not affect the playing of the flick. But with the special coating on BDs its like literally impossible to unintentionally scratch em' up.

...lol

Yep, that coating is a big plus w/Blu-ray, no cracked hubs either!

Batman1980 · 08-15-2009, 07:37 PM

LOL no cracked hubs yet but plenty of holes in cases and broken locks, not to mention those horrible eco cases. I do like the coating, I doubt I'll ever have playback issues with a blu-ray.

Rob J in WNY · 08-15-2009, 07:38 PM

Yes, it's a polymer coating less than a tenth of a millimeter thick. "Durabis" is the trade name given by TDK for its version of the coating, but other manufacturers, such as Panasonic and Sony also make their own hardcoat.

And yes, it's very tough!

Johnny Vinyl · 08-15-2009, 07:38 PM

That's true for the most part, but don't kid yourself into thinking they are indestructible. My used copy of The Wrestler had a few marks and skipped, hung and froze several times. I cleaned it and tried again. Same thing. Good I bought it at BBV, so they replaced it for another.

John

NMJack · 08-15-2009, 09:57 PM

Amen. A much needed upgrade over DVD and HD DVD. It still amazes me that the Netflix BD's look so great. Rental DVDs, OTOH, often look like someone's kid used it for air hockey (I'm sure that has actually happened at least once....)

KENTA · 08-15-2009, 10:05 PM

I lately noticed plenty of tiny scratches on brand new blu-ray discs. Bonnie and Clyde was so horribly scratched when I held it into the light that I was wondering how that movie could still play without a frame skip. Notice that I take extremely good care of my discs, yet some of them show tiny scratches when being held into the light.

Grif32 · 08-15-2009, 10:40 PM

Biggest reason I got rid of netflix was because I kept getting BD's that wouldnt play due to scratches. Real pain in the arse. So I just canceled since they raised their prices as well.

Oh well I might rejoin here soon. Hopefully it has gotten better..

Never had one DVD skip from them but 4 blu's then just gave up. Sad part not one of my HD DVD's icluding combo's every had a problem.

Now I just buy all my Blu's

CrazyOvaBlu · 08-15-2009, 11:31 PM

Your 100% right.

I take great care of my things.
So now nothing should ever happen to them!

Harlock415 · 08-15-2009, 11:40 PM

Only problem I've ever had with Netflix blu is with Starship Troopers not loading up at all from 2 separate rentals.

I'm counting on that scratch protection when I eventually receive my Battllestar Galactica Complete Series set.

syncguy · 08-16-2009, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by KENTA

I lately noticed plenty of tiny scratches on brand new blu-ray discs. Bonnie and Clyde was so horribly scratched when I held it into the light that I was wondering how that movie could still play without a frame skip. Notice that I take extremely good care of my discs, yet some of them show tiny scratches when being held into the light.

Strange. Was the case sealed when you purchased. Some shops open blu-rays which I don't like.

KENTA · 08-16-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

Strange. Was the case sealed when you purchased. Some shops open blu-rays which I don't like.

I only order my bds from amazon.com and that kinda shocked me lately. Out of 5 movies from last month, 2 had scratches on them which couldn't be whiped away. They play fine however but I was still wondering how something like this could happen to sealed blu-ray discs.

Tom Hiddleston · 08-17-2009, 02:08 AM

That's my favorite Blu Ray feature. I put my DVD's in those portable carrying cases, and they will scratch in the case, whether I play them or not. I have NO space, I live in a college dorm room, and with Blu Ray, there are no scratches, yet. It's also a huge bonus if you buy those movies that get pulled from the shelves, and you can never find them again, except for an exorbitant amount on eBay. They're supposed to hold up better over time, versus a DVD.

Blu Titan · 08-17-2009, 02:10 AM

The protective coating is one of the many reasons I chose Blu over Red.

syncguy · 08-20-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KENTA

I only order my bds from amazon.com and that kinda shocked me lately. Out of 5 movies from last month, 2 had scratches on them which couldn't be whiped away. They play fine however but I was still wondering how something like this could happen to sealed blu-ray discs.

Interesting information. Thanks. Can you remember whether those blu-ray cases were sealed when you received them?

Tempest · 08-20-2009, 05:18 PM

If you have issues with neflix Blu's it is most likely a very very fine hair line crack on the outter edge of the disc created by the post office machines.

of all the movies I have rented my counts are something like this:

BLU wont play Hair Line cracked: 4
BLU wont play from scraches: 0

DVD Totally cracked from center hub to outer edge: 15
DVD's that won't play from scraches: 30+

So at least the BLU's are tougher than the DVDs as well.. they only get a slight small crack instead of cracking the entire disc in half.. but the small crack is still just as effective at destroying the disc.

syncguy · 08-21-2009, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

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BLU wont play Hair Line cracked: 4
BLU wont play from scraches: 0

DVD Totally cracked from center hub to outer edge: 15
DVD's that won't play from scraches: 30+

This is good information. So the problem seems to be hair-line cracks from the centre hub. Doesn't this tell us that they should rethink about the case design and the centre hub protection?

Tempest · 08-21-2009, 02:28 AM

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Originally Posted by syncguy

This is good information. So the problem seems to be hair-line cracks from the centre hub. Doesn't this tell us that they should rethink about the case design and the centre hub protection?

No no.. never cracks on the center hub on blu.. it is on the outer edge that has the small crack. I never saw a hub crack on a blu ray.. I mentioned normal DVD's have full cracks from center hub to outer edge..

syncguy · 08-21-2009, 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Tempest

No no.. never cracks on the center hub on blu.. it is on the outer edge that has the small crack. I never saw a hub crack on a blu ray.. I mentioned normal DVD's have full cracks from center hub to outer edge..

Okay. Not sure how that can be fixed easily. This type of information is valuable and should be fed to the designers to think about for improvement.

JAGUAR1977 · 09-22-2009, 08:13 PM

Is there any solution that can be used to 'wipe out' or 'fill in' the very, very fine scratches you sometimes get from normal use, yet have no effect on playback.

PS, you can really see the difference the Blu-ray coating makes when you compare a Blu-ray compared to the DVD digital copy of the same movie, which has been stored and treated the same way.

08-15-2009, 07:34 PM	#1
Chiyo_chichi Power Member Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Bayonne, NJ, USA Blu-ray collection:40	Blu-ray scratch protection coating is so cool! You know? Of all the features BD has, you don't hear about it that much imo. But I really love it. When I bought dvds, I used to hate whenever I got scratches on em'...even light ones that would not affect the playing of the flick. But with the special coating on BDs its like literally impossible to unintentionally scratch em' up. ...lol

08-15-2009, 10:40 PM	#8
Grif32 Expert Member Member since:Oct 2007 Trading Score:1	Biggest reason I got rid of netflix was because I kept getting BD's that wouldnt play due to scratches. Real pain in the arse. So I just canceled since they raised their prices as well. Oh well I might rejoin here soon. Hopefully it has gotten better.. Never had one DVD skip from them but 4 blu's then just gave up. Sad part not one of my HD DVD's icluding combo's every had a problem. Now I just buy all my Blu's Last edited by Grif32; 08-15-2009 at 10:42 PM.

08-17-2009, 02:08 AM	#13
Tom Hiddleston Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Birmingham, Alabama. :( Blu-ray collection:159 Trading Score:2	Kool. That's my favorite Blu Ray feature. I put my DVD's in those portable carrying cases, and they will scratch in the case, whether I play them or not. I have NO space, I live in a college dorm room, and with Blu Ray, there are no scratches, yet. It's also a huge bonus if you buy those movies that get pulled from the shelves, and you can never find them again, except for an exorbitant amount on eBay. They're supposed to hold up better over time, versus a DVD.

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08-15-2009, 07:37 PM	#3
Batman1980 Blu-ray Jedi Member since:Feb 2009 Location:District 13 Home Theater Gallery:8 4K collection:146 Blu-ray collection:394 DVD collection:57 Blu-ray reviews:22 Trading Score:48	LOL no cracked hubs yet but plenty of holes in cases and broken locks, not to mention those horrible eco cases. I do like the coating, I doubt I'll ever have playback issues with a blu-ray.

08-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#4
Rob J in WNY Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:'Western' N.Y. State (MEMBER OF THE "ECPP")™ Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:486 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15	Yes, it's a polymer coating less than a tenth of a millimeter thick. "Durabis" is the trade name given by TDK for its version of the coating, but other manufacturers, such as Panasonic and Sony also make their own hardcoat. And yes, it's very tough!

08-15-2009, 07:38 PM	#5
Johnny Vinyl Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:At the crossroad of Analogue Dr & 2CH Ave Home Theater Gallery:19 Blu-ray collection:205 DVD collection:7 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:8	That's true for the most part, but don't kid yourself into thinking they are indestructible. My used copy of The Wrestler had a few marks and skipped, hung and froze several times. I cleaned it and tried again. Same thing. Good I bought it at BBV, so they replaced it for another. John

08-15-2009, 09:57 PM	#6
NMJack Active Member Member since:Jul 2009 Blu-ray collection:1	Amen. A much needed upgrade over DVD and HD DVD. It still amazes me that the Netflix BD's look so great. Rental DVDs, OTOH, often look like someone's kid used it for air hockey (I'm sure that has actually happened at least once....)

08-15-2009, 10:05 PM	#7
KENTA Active Member Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Austria Blu-ray collection:103	I lately noticed plenty of tiny scratches on brand new blu-ray discs. Bonnie and Clyde was so horribly scratched when I held it into the light that I was wondering how that movie could still play without a frame skip. Notice that I take extremely good care of my discs, yet some of them show tiny scratches when being held into the light.

08-15-2009, 11:31 PM	#9
CrazyOvaBlu Banned Member since:Jul 2009	Your 100% right. I take great care of my things. So now nothing should ever happen to them!

08-15-2009, 11:40 PM	#10
Harlock415 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Jun 2009 Location:San Francisco 4K collection:811 Blu-ray collection:4689 DVD collection:533	Only problem I've ever had with Netflix blu is with Starship Troopers not loading up at all from 2 separate rentals. I'm counting on that scratch protection when I eventually receive my Battllestar Galactica Complete Series set.

08-17-2009, 02:10 AM	#14
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	The protective coating is one of the many reasons I chose Blu over Red.

08-20-2009, 05:18 PM	#16
Tempest Senior Member Member since:Apr 2008 Blu-ray collection:223 Blu-ray reviews:7	If you have issues with neflix Blu's it is most likely a very very fine hair line crack on the outter edge of the disc created by the post office machines. of all the movies I have rented my counts are something like this: BLU wont play Hair Line cracked: 4 BLU wont play from scraches: 0 DVD Totally cracked from center hub to outer edge: 15 DVD's that won't play from scraches: 30+ So at least the BLU's are tougher than the DVDs as well.. they only get a slight small crack instead of cracking the entire disc in half.. but the small crack is still just as effective at destroying the disc.

09-22-2009, 08:13 PM	#20
JAGUAR1977 Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Blu-ray reviews:1	Is there any solution that can be used to 'wipe out' or 'fill in' the very, very fine scratches you sometimes get from normal use, yet have no effect on playback. PS, you can really see the difference the Blu-ray coating makes when you compare a Blu-ray compared to the DVD digital copy of the same movie, which has been stored and treated the same way.

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