HD DVD owners will have to buy new players - Blu-ray Forum

flyingdutchman · 10-09-2007, 10:09 PM

Bwahahahahahhahahahaha.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

In other news for the HD-DVD camp, just two days after Sony DADC announced that they'd replicated their milestone 10 millionth 50GB Blu-ray Disc (click here for the Video Business story), the HD-DVD Promotions Group quickly countered with a little damage control, making sure everyone knew that the DVD Forum was close to approving the spec for a triple-layer 51GB HD-DVD disc (click here). However, industry sources are telling us that NONE of the existing Toshiba HD-DVD players and drives are currently capable of reading them. Indeed, the Video Business story indicates that once the spec is finalized, "compatibility with current HD DVD player and recorders can be investigated." According to reports from Bits readers who were on at CEATAC this weekend, Toshiba reps confirmed to attendees that the triple-layer disc configuration would require a hardware change, meaning that the existing drives are not firmware updatable.

spam.curitiba · 10-09-2007, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingdutchman

Bwahahahahahhahahahaha.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

In other news for the HD-DVD camp, just two days after Sony DADC announced that they'd replicated their milestone 10 millionth 50GB Blu-ray Disc (click here for the Video Business story), the HD-DVD Promotions Group quickly countered with a little damage control, making sure everyone knew that the DVD Forum was close to approving the spec for a triple-layer 51GB HD-DVD disc (click here). However, industry sources are telling us that NONE of the existing Toshiba HD-DVD players and drives are currently capable of reading them. Indeed, the Video Business story indicates that once the spec is finalized, "compatibility with current HD DVD player and recorders can be investigated." According to reports from Bits readers who were on at CEATAC this weekend, Toshiba reps confirmed to attendees that the triple-layer disc configuration would require a hardware change, meaning that the existing drives are not firmware updatable.

owned...and here in two years when video and audio get better what the hell are they going to do when 30gb isn't enough?

marzetta7 · 10-09-2007, 10:11 PM

ROFL! This is priceless. Whoops. Yup, HD DVD is cheaper all right!

spam.curitiba · 10-09-2007, 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzetta7

ROFL! This is priceless. Whoops. Yup, HD DVD is cheaper all right!

my BBY doesn't even carry hd dvd players right now.....HAHA

Whytewash · 10-09-2007, 10:12 PM

when will they learn that the format is dead?!? Quit fighting the inevitable!

mnelsoneorm · 10-09-2007, 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingdutchman

Bwahahahahahhahahahaha.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

In other news for the HD-DVD camp, just two days after Sony DADC announced that they'd replicated their milestone 10 millionth 50GB Blu-ray Disc (click here for the Video Business story), the HD-DVD Promotions Group quickly countered with a little damage control, making sure everyone knew that the DVD Forum was close to approving the spec for a triple-layer 51GB HD-DVD disc (click here). However, industry sources are telling us that NONE of the existing Toshiba HD-DVD players and drives are currently capable of reading them. Indeed, the Video Business story indicates that once the spec is finalized, "compatibility with current HD DVD player and recorders can be investigated." According to reports from Bits readers who were on at CEATAC this weekend, Toshiba reps confirmed to attendees that the triple-layer disc configuration would require a hardware change, meaning that the existing drives are not firmware updatable.

Oh, come on, I feel bad for anyone who has an HD-DVD player, so be nice to them. Let them vent to you, cry on your shoulder, and then take them to BB or Fry's or whatever and help them pick out their new BD player

.

Blu Titan · 10-09-2007, 10:14 PM

I love this! LOL so classic

marzetta7 · 10-09-2007, 10:17 PM

Just posted this over at HDD. I look forward to the spin that will confront this gem of news...

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/show...709#post354709

mike79 · 10-09-2007, 10:18 PM

It says they will investigate it, which means they may be able to. Not that i want them too

Jack Torrance · 10-09-2007, 10:18 PM

Just goes to prove that BD's disc expansion has been part of the plan all along (the announced 100gb disc would only require a firmware update according to Hitachi)... and that the TL51gb hd-dvd disc was merely an afterthought when they finally realized that 30gb is woefully inadequate.

jason_grumpy · 10-09-2007, 10:19 PM

But but but.. their spec is finalized!

Queue Nelson HAHA guy.

Petra_Kalbrain · 10-09-2007, 10:24 PM

I am literally crying... and I can't tell if it's out of joy or from laughing so hard at their idiocy! It's funny too because Toshiba could make an official press release stating the fact that the 51GB disc will not be compatible with the previously released hardware and FUD will increase because of it with "they will come out with a firmware update to make it work."

mcy_999 · 10-09-2007, 10:24 PM

Before the HD DVD BL-51 is finalized, we probably will get a firmware upgrade for our BD players to play the new Hitachi 100GB disc's (if not 200GB disc). And I'm sure that HD DVD will die before they start dreaming of BL-101.

They are simply in a no-win situation.

Banjo · 10-09-2007, 10:25 PM

Not to mention the 1080p/24 firmware update is causing problems on the current models too as well.

Future Shop recently had to put up the corrections stating that HD DVD players are 1080i, not 1080p as advertised in the flyers.

Jack Torrance · 10-09-2007, 10:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzetta7

ROFL! This is priceless. Whoops. Yup, HD DVD is cheaper all right!

Well, it HAS to be cheaper! You have to keep rebuying players!

Petra_Kalbrain · 10-09-2007, 10:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by marzetta7

Just posted this over at HDD. I look forward to the spin that will confront this gem of news...

http://forums.highdefdigest.com/show...709#post354709

LMFAO!!! I can't believe it... they are bringing down their own morale over there! They are actually agreeing that this announcement is a huge blow to HD-DVD.

SKRUhddvd · 10-09-2007, 10:33 PM

the look and sound of perfect MY ASS!!!!!!

Dalese · 10-09-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flyingdutchman

Bwahahahahahhahahahaha.

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents

In other news for the HD-DVD camp, just two days after Sony DADC announced that they'd replicated their milestone 10 millionth 50GB Blu-ray Disc (click here for the Video Business story), the HD-DVD Promotions Group quickly countered with a little damage control, making sure everyone knew that the DVD Forum was close to approving the spec for a triple-layer 51GB HD-DVD disc (click here). However, industry sources are telling us that NONE of the existing Toshiba HD-DVD players and drives are currently capable of reading them. Indeed, the Video Business story indicates that once the spec is finalized, "compatibility with current HD DVD player and recorders can be investigated." According to reports from Bits readers who were on at CEATAC this weekend, Toshiba reps confirmed to attendees that the triple-layer disc configuration would require a hardware change, meaning that the existing drives are not firmware updatable.

If this all true...

So in order to make parity with Blu-ray, the HD-DVD Promotions Group says you need HD-DVD 2.0. That means buying a whole new player to be compatible with the "upgraded format".

Can you imagine the uproar when (if ever) a new TL51 title comes out and has to have a warning label "This Title Will Not Play on 1st Generation DL30 Players" on it? Will there be two HD-DVD versions of these titles?

Now we know how Toshiba plans to make more stand-alone sales. (Do you suppose Toshiba will offer a trade-in program for those who bought 1.0?) It could also how they plan to dominate shelf space in the stores - two HD-DVD versons for each title!

Let the gloatfest continue!!!

(Pro-blu signature under construction)

Blu-Light · 10-09-2007, 10:35 PM

HD-DUD: Please buy our CHEAP, disposable players so we can sell you more garbage now that blu-ray is kicking our asses.

marzetta7 · 10-09-2007, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blu-Light

HD-DUD: Please buy our CHEAP, disposable players so we can sell you more garbage now that blu-ray is kicking our asses.

LOL...HD DVD and their incomplete specs

10-09-2007, 10:09 PM	#1
flyingdutchman Active Member Member since:May 2003	HD DVD owners will have to buy new players Bwahahahahahhahahahaha. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/#mytwocents In other news for the HD-DVD camp, just two days after Sony DADC announced that they'd replicated their milestone 10 millionth 50GB Blu-ray Disc (click here for the Video Business story), the HD-DVD Promotions Group quickly countered with a little damage control, making sure everyone knew that the DVD Forum was close to approving the spec for a triple-layer 51GB HD-DVD disc (click here). However, industry sources are telling us that NONE of the existing Toshiba HD-DVD players and drives are currently capable of reading them. Indeed, the Video Business story indicates that once the spec is finalized, "compatibility with current HD DVD player and recorders can be investigated." According to reports from Bits readers who were on at CEATAC this weekend, Toshiba reps confirmed to attendees that the triple-layer disc configuration would require a hardware change, meaning that the existing drives are not firmware updatable.

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10-09-2007, 10:11 PM	#3
marzetta7 Special Member Member since:Feb 2006	ROFL! This is priceless. Whoops. Yup, HD DVD is cheaper all right!

10-09-2007, 10:12 PM	#5
Whytewash Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:'Couve, WA Blu-ray collection:60 Blu-ray reviews:1	when will they learn that the format is dead?!? Quit fighting the inevitable!

10-09-2007, 10:14 PM	#7
Blu Titan Super Moderator Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Edo, Land of the Samurai Home Theater Gallery:42 4K collection:41 Blu-ray collection:2864 Blu-ray reviews: 2 Trading Score:92	I love this! LOL so classic

10-09-2007, 10:17 PM	#8
marzetta7 Special Member Member since:Feb 2006	Just posted this over at HDD. I look forward to the spin that will confront this gem of news... http://forums.highdefdigest.com/show...709#post354709

10-09-2007, 10:18 PM	#9
mike79 Power Member Member since:May 2007 Location:NYC Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:1	It says they will investigate it, which means they may be able to. Not that i want them too

10-09-2007, 10:18 PM	#10
Jack Torrance Special Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Overlook Hotel Blu-ray reviews:1	Just goes to prove that BD's disc expansion has been part of the plan all along (the announced 100gb disc would only require a firmware update according to Hitachi)... and that the TL51gb hd-dvd disc was merely an afterthought when they finally realized that 30gb is woefully inadequate.

10-09-2007, 10:19 PM	#11
jason_grumpy Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 4	But but but.. their spec is finalized! Queue Nelson HAHA guy.

10-09-2007, 10:24 PM	#12
Petra_Kalbrain Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Vancouver, BC 4K collection:5 Blu-ray collection:561 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:20	I am literally crying... and I can't tell if it's out of joy or from laughing so hard at their idiocy! It's funny too because Toshiba could make an official press release stating the fact that the 51GB disc will not be compatible with the previously released hardware and FUD will increase because of it with "they will come out with a firmware update to make it work."

10-09-2007, 10:24 PM	#13
mcy_999 Active Member Member since:Mar 2007	Before the HD DVD BL-51 is finalized, we probably will get a firmware upgrade for our BD players to play the new Hitachi 100GB disc's (if not 200GB disc). And I'm sure that HD DVD will die before they start dreaming of BL-101. They are simply in a no-win situation.

10-09-2007, 10:25 PM	#14
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	Not to mention the 1080p/24 firmware update is causing problems on the current models too as well. Future Shop recently had to put up the corrections stating that HD DVD players are 1080i, not 1080p as advertised in the flyers.

10-09-2007, 10:33 PM	#17
SKRUhddvd Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:colorado	the look and sound of perfect MY ASS!!!!!!

10-09-2007, 10:35 PM	#19
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	HD-DUD: Please buy our CHEAP, disposable players so we can sell you more garbage now that blu-ray is kicking our asses.

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