Oh wow - IGNORANCE - Blu-ray Forum

SS316SRV · 10-15-2007, 09:55 PM

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.p...ted=1#post6441

Just found this at the other guy's forum...

check out post #17!

fronn · 10-15-2007, 10:01 PM

I don't get it...

SS316SRV · 10-15-2007, 10:05 PM

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Ehh well...but I think its because of the space, not the bandwidth.

When confronted with the sound issue in Transformers being related to bandwidth and not size, Clownbaby denied it saying that it was because of size. Earlier it was said that the 51gb disc would solve all of the issues.

cpgator · 10-15-2007, 10:06 PM

Didn't get it either, but found this to be funny -

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When I upgrade my home theather I will be buying a nice Bose LifeStyle system and I'd want the option for my movies to support the features.

If you can't afford it then don't even open your mouth. I hate people that justify something not being needed because they don't have access to it.

fronn · 10-15-2007, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

When confronted with the sound issue in Transformers being related to bandwidth and not size, Clownbaby denied it saying that it was because of size. Earlier it was said that the 51gb disc would solve all of the issues.

It sounded like it was just him not being sure -- didn't read much of the thread.

It may be a case of it being a space and bandwidth issue in the end -- if they had more bandwidth they'd likely have run out of space (if they didn't already).

There's ignorance all around though, so I just didn't see the relevance of pointing out a case of it at another forum (which didn't seem to be a very offensive case either). That's where my "I don't get it..." was from.

It is an HD-dvd.com forum, I wouldn't expect them to be the most informed about things (although, to be fair, I see much ignorance here as well -- I come for the insider thread and occasional harmless thread outside of that) -- the average forum goer can't be expected to know everything and they'll naturally favor the side they're on in their ignorance... no different from anything else. Intentional ignorance like rdjam, midnightwatcher and a few others at avsforum is an entirely different story (and rather sad).

Sometimes this war tires me a great deal.

(and then I put it something like The Patriot, like I did last night, and enjoy the crap out of it and forget about this silly war)

SS316SRV · 10-15-2007, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by cpgator

Didn't get it either, but found this to be funny -

HAHAHAHHA

Bose lifestyles are hella expensive and have relatively crappy sound for $2000.

fronn · 10-15-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cpgator

Didn't get it either, but found this to be funny -

Hah -- That's a pretty good one. For a little more effort a person can do so much better than Bose for the same price.

Luis_A51 · 10-15-2007, 10:16 PM

That sherbert guy is an idiot. My $400 sony receiver does 7.1 PCM. Therefore it also can handle TrueHD decoded by my PS3 (and hopefully ill be able to say the same soon about DTS-MA)

People should realize that you absolutely do not need a receiver that decodes TrueHD or DTSMA internally in order to take advantage of those codecs. All you need is a player that decodes them, and a receiver that accepts PCM.

To the point, I dont see why they bother defending a format that has already shown its size and bandwith weaknesses.

SS316SRV · 10-15-2007, 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by fronn

It sounded like it was just him not being sure -- didn't read much of the thread.

It may be a case of it being a space and bandwidth issue in the end -- if they had more bandwidth they'd likely have run out of space (if they didn't already).

There's ignorance all around though, so I just didn't see the relevance of pointing out a case of it at another forum (which didn't seem to be a very offensive case either). That's where my "I don't get it..." was from.

It is an HD-dvd.com forum, I wouldn't expect them to be the most informed about things (although, to be fair, I see much ignorance here as well -- I come for the insider thread and occasional harmless thread outside of that) -- the average forum goer can't be expected to know everything and they'll naturally favor the side they're on in their ignorance... no different from anything else. Intentional ignorance like rdjam, midnightwatcher and a few others at avsforum is an entirely different story (and rather sad).

Sometimes this war tires me a great deal.

(and then I put it something like The Patriot, like I did last night, and enjoy the crap out of it and forget about this silly war)

Understandable, but this Clown guy was a zealot and he didn't even have the goods to back his format properly.

Bullseye · 10-15-2007, 10:19 PM

How can they have a straight face saying "superior sound is not essential". The mind boggles and the fact that there is so many of them is frightening.

Rob71 · 10-15-2007, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SS316SRV

HAHAHAHHA

Bose lifestyles are hella expensive and have relatively crappy sound for $2000.

I've got $1500 in my system and I would put mine up against Bose any day... And completely blow it away.

Switched2BD · 10-15-2007, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob71

I've got $1500 in my system and I would put mine up against Bose any day... And completely blow it away.

I am sure it would, not hard to beat Bose!

Rob71 · 10-15-2007, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Switched2BD

I am sure it would, not hard to beat Bose!

Thanks...I think.

smiley · 10-15-2007, 11:14 PM

weather the sound quality sucks do to size or banwidth. We can be sure of one thing, it would be a lot better on blu-ray.

Footloose301 · 10-15-2007, 11:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luis_A51

That sherbert guy is an idiot. My $400 sony receiver does 7.1 PCM. Therefore it also can handle TrueHD decoded by my PS3 (and hopefully ill be able to say the same soon about DTS-MA)

People should realize that you absolutely do not need a receiver that decodes TrueHD or DTSMA internally in order to take advantage of those codecs. All you need is a player that decodes them, and a receiver that accepts PCM.

To the point, I dont see why they bother defending a format that has already shown its size and bandwith weaknesses.

The guy is a moron though. He was arguing about finding a receiver to decode Dolby TrueHD for under $500. He was saying its about $1000. What rock has he been hiding under? You can find the Onkyo TX-SR605 that decodes TrueHD for $399.99 from JR.com

Switched2BD · 10-15-2007, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob71

Thanks...I think.

You got some good stuff there!

I have owned Bose, but will never waste my money on them again knowing that I can do so much better.

Elandyll · 10-15-2007, 11:24 PM

In reality, and coming from the AV business, Bose was never really about ultimate private homes sound quality, but good sound for BIG venues (that need a lot of punch). In that regard, they have some pretty awesome R&D for accoustics, but it's obvious a living room isn't a concert hall or even a club, and despite what some might think, the audio systems in concert venues isn't about the best sound, but the one that can blow the audience's ears away while still sounding decent (and sometimes complex accoustics involved where delays and reverbs. are involved).

ikbradley · 10-15-2007, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.p...ted=1#post6441

Just found this at the other guy's forum...

check out post #17!

Dude is smoking some serious weed.

10-15-2007, 11:14 PM	#14
smiley Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Barron, WI Blu-ray collection:144	weather the sound quality sucks do to size or banwidth. We can be sure of one thing, it would be a lot better on blu-ray. Last edited by smiley; 10-15-2007 at 11:17 PM.

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10-15-2007, 09:55 PM	#1
SS316SRV Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Appleton, WI Blu-ray collection:74	Oh wow - IGNORANCE http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.p...ted=1#post6441 Just found this at the other guy's forum... check out post #17!

10-15-2007, 10:01 PM	#2
fronn Expert Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:St. Paul, Minnesota Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Blu-ray reviews:1	I don't get it...

10-15-2007, 10:16 PM	#8
Luis_A51 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Calgary, AB Blu-ray reviews:4	That sherbert guy is an idiot. My $400 sony receiver does 7.1 PCM. Therefore it also can handle TrueHD decoded by my PS3 (and hopefully ill be able to say the same soon about DTS-MA) People should realize that you absolutely do not need a receiver that decodes TrueHD or DTSMA internally in order to take advantage of those codecs. All you need is a player that decodes them, and a receiver that accepts PCM. To the point, I dont see why they bother defending a format that has already shown its size and bandwith weaknesses.

10-15-2007, 10:19 PM	#10
Bullseye Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Ireland Home Theater Gallery:24 4K collection:70 Blu-ray collection:760 Blu-ray reviews: 44	How can they have a straight face saying "superior sound is not essential". The mind boggles and the fact that there is so many of them is frightening.

10-15-2007, 11:24 PM	#17
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	In reality, and coming from the AV business, Bose was never really about ultimate private homes sound quality, but good sound for BIG venues (that need a lot of punch). In that regard, they have some pretty awesome R&D for accoustics, but it's obvious a living room isn't a concert hall or even a club, and despite what some might think, the audio systems in concert venues isn't about the best sound, but the one that can blow the audience's ears away while still sounding decent (and sometimes complex accoustics involved where delays and reverbs. are involved).

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