HD DVD fanboy beginning to question his format of choice... - Blu-ray Forum

stofferdk · 10-17-2007, 11:23 PM

http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=1741

Finally waking up - and btw, read the thread... the rest of the HD-DVD fanoys' comments are just pure fun.

^^

ryoohki · 10-17-2007, 11:28 PM

The Funny thing is the excuse of DD+ 1.5

I mean.. isn't DD + 1.5, the exact same as DTS 1.5? Both are 24bits 5.1 channel codec

Is DTS 1.5 Enought for those people..

L or S of Perfect? · 10-17-2007, 11:32 PM

Same rationalization that goes on on the avs forum.

You'd think that the enthusists would want the lossless sound and best pq possible. Instead, they argue that it's "good enough". Makes no sense to me. The difference from DD to DD+ may be greater than from DD+ to lossless, but if you're paying a premium for HD movies, wouldn't you want the highest quality?

Pilam69 · 10-17-2007, 11:33 PM

So angry. So very, very angry.

bluseminole · 10-17-2007, 11:52 PM

HA! I really love the people who were adamant about the "only $1000+ receivers can do TrueHD." There was even a link that these guys didn't want to acknowledge. So pathetic. God, I am so glad I'm blu.

Swede · 10-17-2007, 11:53 PM

It's really kinda sad when high-def movie enthusiasts like they surely are have to resort to defending using inferior audio & video quality just because they made a mistake and invested in the wrong format...

Because let's face it, that's what's happening now, they're getting really desperate. They were so happy with the Paramount decision, and now when their top release of 2007 gets released on HD DVD without lossless sound because HD DVD doesn't have enough capacity, they feel like they have to defend that decision no matter what, since admitting that HD DVD doesn't have enough capacity now, would be like admitting Blu-ray is better and that they just wasted a lot of money on the wrong format.

My guess is many of them are actually starting to realize this now, but will just silently try and sell their HD DVD player on ebay and buy a Blu-ray player instead, not to lose face.

RC-Bruin · 10-17-2007, 11:54 PM

What are these guys smoking? The best possible sound is abolutely a must for any home theater system. I am still pissed at myself for not doing enough research earlier this year and bought a receiver without any HDMI inputs.

helli3yte · 10-17-2007, 11:58 PM

its so funny that they talk about the 51gb disc being their answer to salvation. little do they know that "IF" this does come to fruition there will always be that little blu devil holding that 100gb disc which will tear it a new *******.

check mate

monkyman · 10-18-2007, 12:05 AM

WTF is going on over there? Do any of them know what the hell they are talking about?

davidPS3 · 10-18-2007, 12:19 AM

Has anyone read the comments they are making on the Jack Ryan collection and the extra's not on any of the discs. Could it be a "space issue"

No comment from the studio as of yet........................????

MrVorhees · 10-18-2007, 12:28 AM

Ohhh poor little Red HD DVD guy

VOTE for the smiley of the day

snake · 10-18-2007, 12:36 AM

If those 51Gb appears some day (year or decade), than bunch of freakboys need to buy new and expensive players, as i read that there's no way to made 'em compatible via firmware updates, so the boring lower price "feature" they always argument will be vanished, because that day Blu-ray players will cost less and will be more stablished on the market, while "toshi" have to re-market the "expanded" format because all actual players will be practically converted in great & expensive DVD players...

Blu-Light · 10-18-2007, 12:39 AM

Wow! When did Toshiba start production of the 51GB dics? Amazing, I must have missed something.

WickyWoo · 10-18-2007, 12:41 AM

and unfortunately the big reason behind the lack of lossless is bandwidth. To get the video pristine and include IME something had to go

jcdDigix · 10-18-2007, 01:09 AM

It 's not that some of them don't know what's going on, it's too late for them so they are trying to save the face! Why do you buy top of the line Receiver (and Speakers)? I don't think it is just for the video part of it.

w_tanoto · 10-18-2007, 01:46 AM

actually, it's fun to watch them fight with their so called brother..... thanks for the link

BStecke · 10-18-2007, 02:51 AM

I usually try to stay out of these threads, but I really had to put this quote up from post # 13:

"When I upgrade my home theather I will be buying a nice Bose LifeStyle system and I'd want the option for my movies to support the features."

I think that says it all.

Probably the most ill-informed bunch I've seen. Arguing over the price points on receivers, when the information is very easy to find, etc. The combative person in me wants to join and respond, but I'm resisting . . .

BStecke · 10-18-2007, 03:09 AM

I couldn't resist. I'm feeling quirky tonight

My post is being approved by the mods. I was nice about it though, just providing some info.

Blu-Style · 10-18-2007, 03:22 AM

HDDVD People are kind of weird people....

GTsmokeya · 10-18-2007, 04:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RC-Bruin

What are these guys smoking? The best possible sound is abolutely a must for any home theater system. I am still pissed at myself for not doing enough research earlier this year and bought a receiver without any HDMI inputs.

Just wanted to say that if I were you and had a Harmon Kardon 435 I would not care if I had HDMI switches I love their recievers and own the AVR135.

Just my 2.3 cents

GTsmokeya

ps. since I could only read the first page of that post and felt bad for the guy I cannot read anymore.

10-17-2007, 11:23 PM	#1
stofferdk Active Member Member since:May 2007	HD DVD fanboy beginning to question his format of choice... http://forum.hd-dvd.com/showthread.php?t=1741 Finally waking up - and btw, read the thread... the rest of the HD-DVD fanoys' comments are just pure fun. ^^

10-17-2007, 11:33 PM	#4
Pilam69 Senior Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray collection:126	Man, there is some serious bitterness over there So angry. So very, very angry.

10-18-2007, 01:09 AM	#15
jcdDigix Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:FL 4K collection:202 Blu-ray collection:1075 DVD collection:1341 Digital collection:3 iTunes collection:134 Blu-ray reviews:7	It 's not that some of them don't know what's going on, it's too late for them so they are trying to save the face! Why do you buy top of the line Receiver (and Speakers)? I don't think it is just for the video part of it. Last edited by jcdDigix; 10-18-2007 at 01:52 AM.

10-18-2007, 02:51 AM	#17
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I usually try to stay out of these threads, but I really had to put this quote up from post # 13: "When I upgrade my home theather I will be buying a nice Bose LifeStyle system and I'd want the option for my movies to support the features." I think that says it all. Probably the most ill-informed bunch I've seen. Arguing over the price points on receivers, when the information is very easy to find, etc. The combative person in me wants to join and respond, but I'm resisting . . . Last edited by BStecke; 10-18-2007 at 02:56 AM.

10-18-2007, 03:09 AM	#18
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	I couldn't resist. I'm feeling quirky tonight My post is being approved by the mods. I was nice about it though, just providing some info. Last edited by BStecke; 10-18-2007 at 03:15 AM.

10-17-2007, 11:28 PM	#2
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	The Funny thing is the excuse of DD+ 1.5 I mean.. isn't DD + 1.5, the exact same as DTS 1.5? Both are 24bits 5.1 channel codec Is DTS 1.5 Enought for those people..

10-17-2007, 11:32 PM	#3
L or S of Perfect? Senior Member Member since:Sep 2007	Same rationalization that goes on on the avs forum. You'd think that the enthusists would want the lossless sound and best pq possible. Instead, they argue that it's "good enough". Makes no sense to me. The difference from DD to DD+ may be greater than from DD+ to lossless, but if you're paying a premium for HD movies, wouldn't you want the highest quality?

10-17-2007, 11:52 PM	#5
bluseminole Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Lynchburg, VA Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:177 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	HA! I really love the people who were adamant about the "only $1000+ receivers can do TrueHD." There was even a link that these guys didn't want to acknowledge. So pathetic. God, I am so glad I'm blu.

10-17-2007, 11:53 PM	#6
Swede Active Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Los Angeles Home Theater Gallery:19	It's really kinda sad when high-def movie enthusiasts like they surely are have to resort to defending using inferior audio & video quality just because they made a mistake and invested in the wrong format... Because let's face it, that's what's happening now, they're getting really desperate. They were so happy with the Paramount decision, and now when their top release of 2007 gets released on HD DVD without lossless sound because HD DVD doesn't have enough capacity, they feel like they have to defend that decision no matter what, since admitting that HD DVD doesn't have enough capacity now, would be like admitting Blu-ray is better and that they just wasted a lot of money on the wrong format. My guess is many of them are actually starting to realize this now, but will just silently try and sell their HD DVD player on ebay and buy a Blu-ray player instead, not to lose face.

10-17-2007, 11:54 PM	#7
RC-Bruin Member Member since:Oct 2007 Blu-ray collection:18	What are these guys smoking? The best possible sound is abolutely a must for any home theater system. I am still pissed at myself for not doing enough research earlier this year and bought a receiver without any HDMI inputs.

10-17-2007, 11:58 PM	#8
helli3yte Active Member Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Mt.Prospect, IL	its so funny that they talk about the 51gb disc being their answer to salvation. little do they know that "IF" this does come to fruition there will always be that little blu devil holding that 100gb disc which will tear it a new *******. check mate

10-18-2007, 12:05 AM	#9
monkyman Special Member Member since:Jun 2007	WTF is going on over there? Do any of them know what the hell they are talking about?

10-18-2007, 12:19 AM	#10
davidPS3 Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Seattle	Has anyone read the comments they are making on the Jack Ryan collection and the extra's not on any of the discs. Could it be a "space issue" No comment from the studio as of yet........................????

10-18-2007, 12:28 AM	#11
MrVorhees Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Castle Grayskull 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:572 Blu-ray reviews:2	Ohhh poor little Red HD DVD guy VOTE for the smiley of the day

10-18-2007, 12:36 AM	#12
snake Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Mexico	If those 51Gb appears some day (year or decade), than bunch of freakboys need to buy new and expensive players, as i read that there's no way to made 'em compatible via firmware updates, so the boring lower price "feature" they always argument will be vanished, because that day Blu-ray players will cost less and will be more stablished on the market, while "toshi" have to re-market the "expanded" format because all actual players will be practically converted in great & expensive DVD players...

10-18-2007, 12:39 AM	#13
Blu-Light Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006	Wow! When did Toshiba start production of the 51GB dics? Amazing, I must have missed something.

10-18-2007, 12:41 AM	#14
WickyWoo Blu-ray Champion Member since:May 2007 Trading Score:2	and unfortunately the big reason behind the lack of lossless is bandwidth. To get the video pristine and include IME something had to go

10-18-2007, 01:46 AM	#16
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	actually, it's fun to watch them fight with their so called brother..... thanks for the link

10-18-2007, 03:22 AM	#19
Blu-Style Special Member Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Германия	HDDVD People are kind of weird people....

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