XBox 360 to have Blu-ray? - forced by new games!

[Dave]

LA Noire Too Big For Xbox 360?

* The game will be a free-roaming title with a historically-accurate recreation of Los Angeles in 1947.
* Team Bondi has even hired a costume designer to research the clothing of the era so the game's attire can be accurate.
* Aside from main story, side missions will be based on actual cases pulled straight of the newspapers of 1947.
* A US Marine plays a big role in the story.
* Not so exclusive...but LA Noire definitely ain't coming to Xbox 360, the size of the game is an obstacle to this.

It's only a few tidbits, but it's more than we had before.
Of note is that another developer is finding DVDs to be too small.
http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2007/...undiscove.html

Here:
http://www.kotaku.com.au/games/2007/..._xbox_360.html

LA Noire requires Blu-ray?

Rockstar Games has quite a few titles due out over the next year. Midnight Club 4: Los Angeles will attempt to rival games such as Project Gotham 4 and Gran Turismo 5 in early 2008. Grand Theft Auto IV, which needs no introduction, will be an early contender for 2008 game of the year. Before both of those games, the ever controversial Manhunt 2 will be released on the Wii, PS2 and PSP platforms. However one of the less talked about Rockstar titles, LA Noire, is shaping up to be a huge PlayStation 3 game, with much emphasis on “huge”.ps3-controller-ss-11
Recently Kotaku.com, through various sources, was lead to a blog detailing new and unknown information about the title which is slated to release sometime in 2009. The blog features interesting information but the one that stood out the most revealed that the Xbox 360’s DVD9 support is insufficient to handle what Rockstar wants to do with LA Noire. Here is the new information revealed:
• The game will be a free-roaming title with a historically-accurate recreation of Los Angeles in 1947.
• Team Bondi has even hired a costume designer to research the clothing of the era so the game’s attire can be accurate.
• Aside from main story, side missions will be based on actual cases pulled straight of the newspapers of 1947.
• A US Marine plays a big role in the story.
• Not so exclusive…but LA Noire definitely ain’t coming to Xbox 360, the size of the game is an obstacle to this.
So as you may see, Rockstar and Team Bondi (Developer of LA Noire) currently believe that with the Blu-ray format, only the PlayStation 3 is capable of having this game.
LA Noire is a detective game based in a realistic 1947 Los Angelas where players must master the art of puzzle solving as they are thrown into various engagements around the LA area within to game. Set to release in 2009, LA Noire is sure to give gamers who unique gameplay experience. Check back with PSU as we will continue our coverage of LA Noire and all of the other great Rockstar Games titles set to come in the future.
Interestly, whilst the news may make LA Noire a PS3 exclusive, Sony announced some time ago that Rockstar was working on a completely separate, currently undisclosed, PS3 exclusive title.

Here:
http://www.mtechxp.net/main/la-noire-requires-blu-ray
and here too:
http://www.psu.com/LA-Noire-requires...0001499-p0.php

[SS316SRV]

Things like this will be what kills HD DVD, not sales numbers.

[darkpoet25]

Hell if the game comes out in 2009 won't Blu Ray have already won the format war
anyway? Sucks to be an M$ fanboy doesn't it?

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Things like this will be what kills HD DVD, not sales numbers.

or maybe both

[jediknight182]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Things like this will be what kills HD DVD, not sales numbers.

Not trying to start trouble but what does this have to do with HD-DVD? I know Microsoft supports it but 360 games are all on DVD.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by jediknight182

Not trying to start trouble but what does this have to do with HD-DVD? I know Microsoft supports it but 360 games are all on DVD.

because the game is too long so it wouldnt fit on a dvd or hd-dvd so blu-ray is the next option since after all blu-ray holds the most GB space thats my guess

[shatta]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Things like this will be what kills HD DVD, not sales numbers.

i guess he means in term of storage capacity.....in the future,,they gonna say HD-DVD is too small

[jediknight182]

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

because the game is too long so it wouldnt fit on a dvd or hd-dvd so blu-ray is the next option since after all blu-ray holds the most GB space thats my guess

I see your point but Rockstar hasn't announced how large the game is yet. All we know is that it won't fit on DVD.

P.S. I am not defending HD-DVD. Just want to make that clear.

[darkpoet25]

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

because the game is too long so it wouldnt fit on a dvd or hd-dvd so blu-ray is the next option since after all blu-ray holds the most GB space thats my guess

That's exactly what the article was saying. Think about it, how many discs would it take to make Metal Gear Solid 4 on dvd? The game is going to take up an entire 50 gig dual layer disc. Not only that but developers on PGR said they couldn't do all the weather effects that wanted due to space limitations. All this is doing is proving that the power of Blu Ray and Sony is no joke.

[MOONPHASE]

Originally Posted by darkpoet25

That's exactly what the article was saying. Think about it, how many discs would it take to make Metal Gear Solid 4 on dvd? The game is going to take up an entire 50 gig dual layer disc. Not only that but developers on PGR said they couldn't do all the weather effects that wanted due to space limitations. All this is doing is proving that the power of Blu Ray and Sony is no joke.

this brings up a question i heard that MGS4 is not ps3 exclusive and will be on the 360 if thats true how can MGS4 be on the 360 if it takes up 50GB of space? unless its like a 3 disc set or something like that maybe more

[jediknight182]

Originally Posted by MOONPHASE

this brings up a question i heard that MGS4 is not ps3 exclusive and will be on the 360 if thats true how can MGS4 be on the 360 if it takes up 50GB of space? unless its like a 3 disc set or something like that maybe more

If it does come on the 360 it probably will be multidisc. If you look at Mistwalker's 360 titles (Blue Dragon and Lost Odysee) and Square's future 360 titles (Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery) they are all on 4 discs. Microsoft has no problem having games released on multiple discs.

Just a side bar. When Snake controls the tiny Metal Gear he uses a PS3 controller. I wonder if they would change it to a 360 controller if it comes out on the 360.

[ikbradley]

Once and for all METAL GEAR SOLID 4 WILL NEVER SEE THE LIGHT OF DAY ON THE 360.

This has been confirmed by the guy who makes it.

[Go Blu]

MS is reluctant to bundle in any HD format until the war is over.
As big of a supporter as they are they still refuse to bundle it and that speaks volumes in my book.

Going forward next gen gaming will no doubt require huge capacity dics. I believe min 18-25Gb+. I actually see games going to the 30-40Gb range in the next two years so MS will have to do something.

BUT I do wonder if MS would ever drop a BR drive in their XBOX. I'm sure they will do whatever will net them more Money.

[SS316SRV]

First, the Xbox 360 Addon is the cheapest way to get an HD DVD player. So if people do not buy 360s because the games they want are not on it, then there will be less HD DVD players sold. Second, this a prime example of how blu-rays size and bandwidth capabilities are making the HD DVD discs useless.

This game shows the short commings of HD DVD as a home media format.

[pbnbcr]

Maybe this is the deal: The 360, even with its popularity won't be able to handle games in the near future. HDDUD is helped out by the fact that the many 360 owners can purchase the add-on HDDUD drive at a relatively low cost.

Blu-Ray can handle this so it seems to me that some of the best upcoming games may only be available on the PS3 (unless, of course, M$ decides to change drives, which I doubt they will anytime soon). Hardcore gamers, then, may end up switching to PS3 and thus Blu-Ray.

[Dave]

Originally Posted by jediknight182

Not trying to start trouble but what does this have to do with HD-DVD? I know Microsoft supports it but 360 games are all on DVD.

The point is that if the games wont fit on DVD they will need to get some other medium, and since HD DVD is not suitable for that they will have to go with BD.
I am MS fan and wish them bug success with the 360, but not until they get BD.

When BD goes to 360 to i dont care which console would win the war. BD above all

[tron3]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

Things like this will be what kills HD DVD, not sales numbers.

More and more I see this to be true. Sales numbers keeps HD DVD alive though they are a distant second. As long as it is supported, it will live in some respect. Out selling them by 2:1 isn't making them go away any time soon. Maybe not even 3:1 or 4:1. Warner and Universal could go blu-sclusive soon, and yet HD DVD will live on. Soley because of a contract. You want to wipe out a bug colony? You have to kill the queen, not just the drones.

Blu-ray winning is not just important to the longevity of HDM, it is important that Microsoft does not gain control of yet another critical market share.

Everything Microsoft absorbs becomes this amorphous scaled down blob. Back in the DOS days, I had some nice disk defrag utilities. I could see how bad the fragmentation was, all kinds of neat information. Then MS included a defrag with the O/S. It did the job, but without the bells and whistles. Just like most things they start throwing in the O/S as freebies.

I like vanilla icecream, but even free vanilla icecream gets boring after a while.

[darkpoet25]

Originally Posted by jediknight182

If it does come on the 360 it probably will be multidisc. If you look at Mistwalker's 360 titles (Blue Dragon and Lost Odysee) and Square's future 360 titles (Last Remnant and Infinite Undiscovery) they are all on 4 discs. Microsoft has no problem having games released on multiple discs.

I wonder how many M$ fans would be dissapointed that they have to change the discs. The last time I had to do this was with Final Fantasy on the PS1. I almost feel sorry for them. Almost. Not to mention, wouldn't the graphics and sound suffer a little do to multiple discs?

[Copywriter]

Look at how long Laserdiscs lingered on. As long as there's a viable market, movies will come out.

I won't ever again buy a game with multiple discs unless the game is so next-gen to the 9th power that it takes 4-5 BD50 (or higher) discs to do it.

[Proteus]

HDDVD will most likely never be a gaming platform.

The protective coating is simply not durable enough for gaming use (kids ripping discs in and out and higher rental volume).

The only way it could be 'adapted' is if they changed the coating to something similar to Blu-ray; however, this would mean re-tooling all production lines and, ironically, establishing that the same technologies that had to be implemented for Blu-ray be implemented for HDDVD production. The coating is the number one reason why HDDVD 'can be produced cheaper' (even though this really isn't true, existing lines can simply be modified to run more coatings as opposed to a new line to run a new coating... in the end the actual cost is negligible).

I'm pretty sure we'll end up seeing Blu-ray in any future Xbox. This war will be long be over before then; however, it's interesting that Microsoft has started to distance itself from HDDVD lately.