December 4th doomsday for HD DVD? - Blu-ray Forum

BadAss · 11-03-2007, 12:22 AM

He's your chance to predict the Nielson ratio for BD/HD-DVD on December 4th.

BLU-RAY

1,000 Places to See Before You Die: 50 Favorite Destinations (Image)
20 Million Miles to Earth (Sony)
50 Paintings from the Museum of Modern Art (Image)
The Amazing World of National Geographic (Image)
Art Wolfe: Vanishing Act (Image)
Cast Away (Fox) Independence Day (Fox)
Masters of Horror: Season One - Vol. Four (Starz)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Fox) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Buena Vista)
Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock)
Ronin (MGM)
Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel)
Superbad (Sony) Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Warner)

HD-DVD

Arctic Tale (Paramount)
Battlestar Galactica: Season One (Universal)
Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock)
Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel)

Oh the pain...

androvsky · 11-03-2007, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by BadAss

Battlestar Galactica: Season One (Universal)

Stupid format war, I'd be all over this on Blu-ray.

Trebar · 11-03-2007, 12:29 AM

The Fox titles will hurt the most. I couldn't give a rats ash about Pirates. Still a solid lineup that will sway many.

SixAxiS · 11-03-2007, 12:31 AM

Even though everyone's saying Pirates 3 sucked; I still haven't seen it yet and I plan on adding it to my blu-ray collection.

monkyman · 11-03-2007, 12:31 AM

I already have 4 of those on pre-order.
Terminator 3
Pirates
ID4
Mr & Mrs Smith

Switched2BD · 11-03-2007, 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by SixAxiS

Even though everyone's saying Pirates 3 sucked; I still haven't seen it yet and I plan on adding it to my blu-ray collection.

I really enjoyed Pirates 3 and know plenty of others that did as well.

caliminius · 11-03-2007, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BadAss

He's your chance to predict the Nielson ratio for BD/HD-DVD on December 4th.

BLU-RAY

1,000 Places to See Before You Die: 50 Favorite Destinations (Image)
20 Million Miles to Earth (Sony)
50 Paintings from the Museum of Modern Art (Image)
The Amazing World of National Geographic (Image)
Art Wolfe: Vanishing Act (Image)
Cast Away (Fox)
Independence Day (Fox)
Masters of Horror: Season One - Vol. Four (Starz)
Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Fox)
Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Buena Vista)
Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock)
Ronin (MGM)
Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel)
Superbad (Sony)
Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Warner)

HD-DVD

Arctic Tale (Paramount)
Battlestar Galactica: Season One (Universal)
Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock)
Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel)

Oh the pain...

Do you mean pain for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Honestly, the title I want most on that list is BSG: Season 1 (sadly, I can't being HD-DVD only), then PotC 3 in second (which I have pre-ordered), and the dual-format Queen disc coming in third.

Yeah, I suppose there are people salivating for the utter brain-dead nonsense of ID4, the pointless sequel T3, the dull Mr. and Mrs. Smith (maybe it gets better after the first 15 minutes), and the raunch-fest of Superbad, but they don't do much for me.

BadAss · 11-03-2007, 12:37 AM

Vote away.

Proteus · 11-03-2007, 12:38 AM

Will be a big week for BD for sure.

Pirates 3 didn't suck. It was actually better than Pirates 2 where things just got completely campy and stupid. I think the reason people have said 2 & 3 sucked is because, frankly, they didn't follow the same writing style and originality of the first film, but rather relied more heavily on re-canned witty lines from the first film. Pirates 2 certainly did this more than 3 which is why I personally feel 3 was a bit better as well as the fact that it was darker and richer (except for the way too long ultra white part).

Switched2BD · 11-03-2007, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by caliminius

Do you mean pain for Blu-Ray or HD-DVD?

Honestly, the title I want most on that list is BSG: Season 1 (sadly, I can't being HD-DVD only), then PotC 3 in second (which I have pre-ordered), and the dual-format Queen disc coming in third.

Yeah, I suppose there are people salivating for the utter brain-dead nonsense of ID4, the pointless sequel T3, the dull Mr. and Mrs. Smith (maybe it gets better after the first 15 minutes), and the raunch-fest of Superbad, but they don't do much for me.

Wow, so I am a Brain-dead, dull and raunchy person who likes pointless movies.?

stockstar1138 · 11-03-2007, 12:43 AM

i predicted 84:16 a while back, but yeah, its going to be a massacre, hence my signature. btw im sticking with 84:16 but voted for 85:15. However, im giong to up it to 78:22 if they decide to have a BOGO that week. Itll be hilarious toshiba will pay big bucks for a BOGO to lose by over 3:1. This is the week warner looks at blu-ray and goes whoa!

Hassoon · 11-03-2007, 12:43 AM

Will it be a good week for Blu-ray? Absolutely.

Will it be a format winner decider? Hard to tell. Any studio could pull a "Paramount" out of nowhere and change the playing field.

Again.

But I'm actually hopeful and optimistic that the Blu-ray will emerge victorious during early next year.

blu-rayfan101 · 11-03-2007, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Trebar

The Fox titles will hurt the most. I couldn't give a rats ash about Pirates. Still a solid lineup that will sway many.

You should care about pirates on blu-ray (Not liking it), but if pirates 1 and 2 are still selling good now what will pirates 3 do, and that would boost the sales of the first 2.

monkyman · 11-03-2007, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by caliminius

Yeah, I suppose there are people salivating for the utter brain-dead nonsense of ID4, the pointless sequel T3, the dull Mr. and Mrs. Smith (maybe it gets better after the first 15 minutes), and the raunch-fest of Superbad, but they don't do much for me.

You do realize these were all hit movies?

BadAss · 11-03-2007, 01:03 AM

By December 4th we'll have a £399 PS3, a £399 BDP-S300 with free Spiderman Trilogy, a Profile 1.1 player, a great advertisment campain, maybe Weinstien going neutral and some top titles to back it all up with.

Gio · 11-03-2007, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by androvsky

Stupid format war, I'd be all over this on Blu-ray.

no kidding cant wait to see galactica on blu

Blubaru · 11-03-2007, 01:14 AM

70-75 blu

Trebar · 11-03-2007, 01:15 AM

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Originally Posted by blu-rayfan101

You should care about pirates on blu-ray (Not liking it), but if pirates 1 and 2 are still selling good now what will pirates 3 do, and that would boost the sales of the first 2.

More of a personal opinion than what I think will be the big hit for that week. I'm not delusional, it's just that Pirates never really did much for me at the theater.

Castaway, Independence Day vs. BG is all I really see for me personally. No doubt I will have made a decision by Christmas.

MrBogey · 11-03-2007, 01:17 AM

I cringe when I see people say, "well I didn't like this film" and arguing how it will not sell well because such. Bad logic.

You have to see its fanbase.

BG is a big one for HD DVD and will probably be as big as the Heroes release. Take that how you will.

The BD catalog titles are strong catalog titles and will make a small blip but PotC and Superbad are going to sell extremely well.

BD will have a strong week. I don't see it possibly go under 75:25 unless the landscape changes to HD DVD before then.

bazie · 11-03-2007, 01:24 AM

I think despite the kick of 50k HDDVD players in the market the strength of these movies will make for big sales.

the best selling title in the list will be world end, which according to amazon presale ranks, calibrated for time to release day against equivalent transformers presales, is doing somewhat worse but not considerably. Give then christmas season and 400 dollar ps3 boost I think worlds end could get up to 150k first week.

Thus i will put my guess in the 70's, not sure whether low or high.

View Poll Results: How much pain will HD-DVD feel on December 4th?
100:0 HD-DVDs dead and buried.	7	5.60%
95:5 HD-DVDs on life support.	4	3.20%
90:10 HD-DVDs knocked out.	9	7.20%
85:15 HD-DVDs left hanging on the ropes.	26	20.80%
80:20 HD-DVDs legs turn to jelly.	30	24.00%
75:25 HD-DVD gets a few broken ribs.	18	14.40%
70:30 HD-DVD gets a broken jaw.	19	15.20%
65:35 HD-DVD comes away with two black eyes.	9	7.20%
60:40 HD-DVDs left looking for it's gum shield.	2	1.60%
55:45 HD-DVD survives with just a few minor scratches.	1	0.80%
Voters: 125. You may not vote on this poll

11-03-2007, 12:22 AM	#1
BadAss Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:England 4K collection:63 Blu-ray collection:63	December 4th doomsday for HD DVD? He's your chance to predict the Nielson ratio for BD/HD-DVD on December 4th. BLU-RAY 1,000 Places to See Before You Die: 50 Favorite Destinations (Image) 20 Million Miles to Earth (Sony) 50 Paintings from the Museum of Modern Art (Image) The Amazing World of National Geographic (Image) Art Wolfe: Vanishing Act (Image) Cast Away (Fox) Independence Day (Fox) Masters of Horror: Season One - Vol. Four (Starz) Mr. & Mrs. Smith (Fox) Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End (Buena Vista) Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock) Ronin (MGM) Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel) Superbad (Sony) Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (Warner) HD-DVD Arctic Tale (Paramount) Battlestar Galactica: Season One (Universal) Queen Rock Montreal & Live Aid (Eagle Rock) Sunrise Earth: American Sunrise (Discovery Channel) Oh the pain...

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11-03-2007, 12:29 AM	#3
Trebar Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Texas Blu-ray collection:124	The Fox titles will hurt the most. I couldn't give a rats ash about Pirates. Still a solid lineup that will sway many.

11-03-2007, 12:31 AM	#4
SixAxiS Active Member Member since:May 2007	Even though everyone's saying Pirates 3 sucked; I still haven't seen it yet and I plan on adding it to my blu-ray collection.

11-03-2007, 12:31 AM	#5
monkyman Special Member Member since:Jun 2007	I already have 4 of those on pre-order. Terminator 3 Pirates ID4 Mr & Mrs Smith

11-03-2007, 12:37 AM	#8
BadAss Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:England 4K collection:63 Blu-ray collection:63	Vote away.

11-03-2007, 12:38 AM	#9
Proteus Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Location:SoCal PSN:CaptBurn	Will be a big week for BD for sure. Pirates 3 didn't suck. It was actually better than Pirates 2 where things just got completely campy and stupid. I think the reason people have said 2 & 3 sucked is because, frankly, they didn't follow the same writing style and originality of the first film, but rather relied more heavily on re-canned witty lines from the first film. Pirates 2 certainly did this more than 3 which is why I personally feel 3 was a bit better as well as the fact that it was darker and richer (except for the way too long ultra white part).

11-03-2007, 12:43 AM	#11
stockstar1138 Banned Member since:Apr 2007	i predicted 84:16 a while back, but yeah, its going to be a massacre, hence my signature. btw im sticking with 84:16 but voted for 85:15. However, im giong to up it to 78:22 if they decide to have a BOGO that week. Itll be hilarious toshiba will pay big bucks for a BOGO to lose by over 3:1. This is the week warner looks at blu-ray and goes whoa!

11-03-2007, 12:43 AM	#12
Hassoon Active Member Member since:Sep 2007	Will it be a good week for Blu-ray? Absolutely. Will it be a format winner decider? Hard to tell. Any studio could pull a "Paramount" out of nowhere and change the playing field. Again. But I'm actually hopeful and optimistic that the Blu-ray will emerge victorious during early next year.

11-03-2007, 01:03 AM	#15
BadAss Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:England 4K collection:63 Blu-ray collection:63	By December 4th we'll have a £399 PS3, a £399 BDP-S300 with free Spiderman Trilogy, a Profile 1.1 player, a great advertisment campain, maybe Weinstien going neutral and some top titles to back it all up with.

11-03-2007, 01:14 AM	#17
Blubaru Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Tonight! you!	70-75 blu

11-03-2007, 01:17 AM	#19
MrBogey Expert Member Member since:Jan 2007	I cringe when I see people say, "well I didn't like this film" and arguing how it will not sell well because such. Bad logic. You have to see its fanbase. BG is a big one for HD DVD and will probably be as big as the Heroes release. Take that how you will. The BD catalog titles are strong catalog titles and will make a small blip but PotC and Superbad are going to sell extremely well. BD will have a strong week. I don't see it possibly go under 75:25 unless the landscape changes to HD DVD before then.

11-03-2007, 01:24 AM	#20
bazie Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	I think despite the kick of 50k HDDVD players in the market the strength of these movies will make for big sales. the best selling title in the list will be world end, which according to amazon presale ranks, calibrated for time to release day against equivalent transformers presales, is doing somewhat worse but not considerably. Give then christmas season and 400 dollar ps3 boost I think worlds end could get up to 150k first week. Thus i will put my guess in the 70's, not sure whether low or high.

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