Goltzius and the Pelican Company (Peter Greenaway)

[pro-bassoonist]

Goltzius and the Pelican Company Blu-ray PRE-ORDER



Goltzius and the Pelican Company coming to Blu-ray on September 29th. Courtesy of Axiom Films.



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[Dubstar]

I saw this last year - and in typical Greenaway fashion, he mixes in his extremeness of rampant nudity, sexual explicitness, stunning visual aplomb and bizarre storytelling to astounding effect. The DCP was just gorgeous that achieved an almost tactile 'look' - if Greenaway were to film in 3D - this would have been THE film to do this with.

There will be a BFI screening of the film at the National Gallery (London) on July 11th:

"This event takes place in the National Gallery and will include a Q&A with Peter Greenaway in discussion with Betsy Wieseman, the Gallery’s Curator of Dutch paintings, with Colin Wiggins, Special Projects Curator."

[McCrutchy]

The news from Axiom is confusing. The BFI were supposed to handle cinema and home video for this film, but now, it is with Axiom, and the UK cinema premiere event is in collaboration with the BFI on 11-12 July.

I don't understand why this happened, as the BFI have handled other Greenaway films and this seems like a perfect fit for them.

I hope Axiom's BD will be as good as the one the BFI would have prepared...

[Yami]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

I saw this last year - and in typical Greenaway fashion, he mixes in his extremeness of rampant nudity, sexual explicitness, stunning visual aplomb and bizarre storytelling to astounding effect. The DCP was just gorgeous that achieved an almost tactile 'look' - if Greenaway were to film in 3D - this would have been THE film to do this with.

He actually has filmed in 3D - he recently contributed to the portmanteau film 3x3D along with Edgar Pena and Jean-Luc Godard.

[rapta]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

The news from Axiom is confusing. The BFI were supposed to handle cinema and home video for this film, but now, it is with Axiom, and the UK cinema premiere event is in collaboration with the BFI on 11-12 July.

I don't understand why this happened, as the BFI have handled other Greenaway films and this seems like a perfect fit for them.

I hope Axiom's BD will be as good as the one the BFI would have prepared...

Axiom are completely reliable. Watched their release of Wings Of Desire last night and it looked impeccable! BFI tend to concentrate on theatrical matters it seems - they often work with other labels like Eureka (for Wake In Fright or Nosferatu for example) who end up releasing the blu-ray edition. BFI seem to release blu-rays that they already have the rights to or are planning on restoring. I guess it goes to independent distributors if that's not the case, or if it's a little more specialist.

[Dubstar]

I know I'm digressing but who the hell owns the video rights of Prospero's Books in the UK - apparently BFI doesn't - this is THE one film I most want on bluray.

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by MichaelB

The only Greenaway films that the BFI actually owns are the ones up to and including A Zed and Two Noughts, which they produced or co-produced in the first place. They then licensed The Belly of an Architect from MGM, but all the later films are owned by other rightsholders.

that's pretty much it in a nutshell what BFI told me when I inquired about the subject. Now it's just a waiting game to see WHO will release 'Prospero' on blu - that rumored recent Scandinavia blu release only produced a DVD

Greenaway releases on home video are by far the weirdest - I had to buy Tulse Luper Trilogy (DVD) from Australia, 'Baby of Macon' (BR) from (... it's escaping me at the moment), Nightwatching from Sweden. Tempted to get the blu of The Cook, The Thief, from Mexico. I wish Criterion would get up off it's asses and try to wrangle some of the rights for an uber Greenaway US box collection (hey it's just a pipe dream - but it'd be cool)

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Yami

He actually has filmed in 3D - he recently contributed to the portmanteau film 3x3D along with Edgar Pena and Jean-Luc Godard.

cool!

[Yami]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

I know I'm digressing but who the hell owns the video rights of Prospero's Books in the UK - apparently BFI doesn't - this is THE one film I most want on bluray.

I'm pretty sure it's in Film4's catalog

[edcresdee]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

that's pretty much it in a nutshell what BFI told me when I inquired about the subject. Now it's just a waiting game to see WHO will release 'Prospero' on blu - that rumored recent Scandinavia blu release only produced a DVD

Greenaway releases on home video are by far the weirdest - I had to buy Tulse Luper Trilogy (DVD) from Australia, 'Baby of Macon' (BR) from (... it's escaping me at the moment), Nightwatching from Sweden. Tempted to get the blu of The Cook, The Thief, from Mexico. I wish Criterion would get up off it's asses and try to wrangle some of the rights for an uber Greenaway US box collection (hey it's just a pipe dream - but it'd be cool)

Just ordered The Cook, The Thief... from here, http://www.mixup.com.mx/mixup/Produc...=7506036067541 it came to £18.56. Paid with Paypal so I'm covered if anything goes wrong

[DJ KNIGHT XIII]

Could someone please give a brief summary of what this film is actually about, many thanks.

[edcresdee]

Originally Posted by DJ KNIGHT XIII

Could someone please give a brief summary of what this film is actually about, many thanks.

From wikipedia: "The film is based on the life of Hendrik Goltzius, a late 16th century Dutch printer and engraver of erotic prints. He seduces the Margrave of Alsace into paying for a printing press to make and publish illustrated books. Goltzius promises him an extraordinary book of pictures of the Old Testament Biblical stories. Erotic tales of the temptation of Adam and Eve, Lot and his daughters, David and Bathsheba, Joseph and Potiphar's wife, Samson and Delilah, and John the Baptist and Salome. To tempt the Margrave further, Goltzius and his printing company will offer to perform dramatizations of these erotic stories for his court."


This is down to £14 on Amazon now

[edcresdee]

any info on this? about extras etc?

[edcresdee]

This arrived today, it has in interview with Greenaway a few other bonus features but i cant list them because i accidentally left it at work!

[mattyl149]

I was hoping to get mine today, but it never arrived

[kianlaw]

Are there any cuts? Because IMDb states 128 mins but on Amazon it's 117.

[MichaelCPE]

Originally Posted by kianlaw

Are there any cuts? Because IMDb states 128 mins but on Amazon it's 117.

I've just spent about 30 minutes searching the internet to try to find the answer to exactly that question. All I found was some talk about it being censored in Russia.

Having bought the UK blu-ray I would be very annoyed to learn that this is a cut-down version.

PS - I've just discovered that you can pay to stream this movie from bfi.org.uk and this site also says that the film is 128 minutes.

PPS - I've just posted a review on Amazon.co.uk pointing out that the film is missing 11 minutes and thus giving it only 2 stars.

[derek_1999]

Irrespective of the running time on listed on Amazon, what's the duration of the movie on the BR?

According to the BBFC, it was passed uncut - http://www.bbfc.co.uk/releases/goltz...n-company-film

[MichaelCPE]

Originally Posted by derek_1999

Irrespective of the running time on listed on Amazon, what's the duration of the movie on the BR?

The blu-ray runs for 117 minutes (and is advertised as such).

The iMDB and the BFI pay-per-view both say that it is 128 minutes.

[derek_1999]

This has been dropping in price over the last few weeks (Amazon UK).

Picked my copy up for £8 last week as part of my birthday box from the other half - but just seen this drop to £6, so anyone that wants a Greenaway fix, I can't see it getting much cheaper, so probably a good time to pick it up.