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yellowblanket · 11-25-2007, 05:49 AM

what is more important
The good room (sound proof/insulation/size, ect...)
The good receiver
The good speakers
If you were have to pick one of those factor for your home theater, which one should you pick? lol can't pick 3 or 2, just one

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 05:53 AM

probably the receiver first

quetzalcoatl · 11-25-2007, 05:56 AM

Well the last one would be good room. Since how many of us will ever get to build our own HT room? I would have to go with receiver as well and for one big reason. You can buy the best speakers around but if you have junk to power them it does not matter.

yellowblanket · 11-25-2007, 06:00 AM

well, what i trying to say is you have unlimited budget for only one of those thing, you can either have the best built room for home theater, the best receiver or the best speakers

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 06:03 AM

well with that said, I'd build the ht room. The receiver & speakers would only be about 1k w/ a goo onkyo system but a room is so much more. so I go with the room!!!

tegal3 · 11-25-2007, 06:07 AM

The most important is the room acoustic. It doesn't matter if you have the most expensive speakers or audio components but if you don't have a good room, you won't get to enjoy the full potential of your equipments.

yellowblanket · 11-25-2007, 06:15 AM

hawknelson05, imagine if all those 3 factors cost exactly the same. Reason i said that because i think you only picked the room because u thought it is have the most expensive cost.
=)

gvortex7 · 11-25-2007, 06:16 AM

Well, to be honest you really need all of the above to have an ideal home theater setup, but most people don't have a room that's perfect in every sense (speaker placement, right acoustics). But, you can still get good equipment to get the best out of your viewing/listening environment. One thing to note though, a good receiver requires a good set of speakers. One is only as good as the other it's paired with.

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 06:24 AM

well, if they all cost exactly the same personally i would go with the room. My family nor I have ever had surround sound so I can live without it. So thats MY opinion

gvortex7 · 11-25-2007, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawknelson05

well, if they all cost exactly the same personally i would go with the room. My family nor I have ever had surround sound so I can live without it. So thats MY opinion

They don't all cost the same, but they all have the same significance.

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvortex7

They don't all cost the same, but they all have the same significance.

I think he's trying to make hypothetical situations, thus my hypothetical answer. Obviously a room is significantly more expensive than a receiver and speakers

gvortex7 · 11-25-2007, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawknelson05

I think he's trying to make hypothetical situations, thus my hypothetical answer. Obviously a room is significantly more expensive than a receiver and speakers

I guess I meant speakers and receivers to be more specific.

JadedRaverLA · 11-25-2007, 06:47 AM

The good room hands down. Though it's sadly the one item that most of us will never be able to actually get. It can be incredibly expense and usually impractical or impossible to make the room acoustics perfect, but when they are, it's bliss.

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 07:00 AM

i dont see where this is going

bootman · 11-25-2007, 02:01 PM

You have to bundle room and speakers unless you are spending huge money on sound treatments.

That said, the list would be:

1) Speakers (in your room)
2) electronics to drive them. (receivers, amps, preamps, etc)

No speakers will sound the same in a demo room and in your house unless both rooms are the same.

Great speakers can sound bad in the wrong room.
Mediocre speakers can good in the right room. (ever heard a Bose demo in their room?)
Bad speakers are just bad.

The Guardian · 11-25-2007, 02:24 PM

I have to disagree with putting speakers ahead of the "source".

Assuming you are getting HDMI into your receiver with the codecs bitstreamed, the receiver is the "source".

Let's say you bought insanely good speakers... $25,000 each. And hooked it up to the Onkyo 605 that everyone around here loves. It would sound like crap. Why? Because the speakers are so good you can hear the flaws in the sound from the receiver. Ok, that's an extreme example, but it illustrates the point.

An example of putting your money in the source... I was at a home theater show a few years ago, PSB Speakers was having a blind listening test. They had some speakers hidden behind a thin black sheet so the sound could come through but you couldn't see the speaker. They played some music and asked people to guess how much these (I believe brand new) speakers cost. The average was about $5000 on the guesses I believe.

In reality, they were PSB Alpha's, at $199 per pair. http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...ha-LR1-Monitor

The secret? They had an amazing source, the source system was about $10,000 I think.

The moral of the story... a great source and amp can get great sound out of almost any speaker.

As for the room - you usually can't do much about it... and the newer receivers can partially compensate for it I believe.

P.S. I have nothing against Onkyo, just used it as a popular example.

11-25-2007, 05:49 AM	#1
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	What is more important? ... what is more important The good room (sound proof/insulation/size, ect...) The good receiver The good speakers If you were have to pick one of those factor for your home theater, which one should you pick? lol can't pick 3 or 2, just one

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11-25-2007, 05:53 AM	#2
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	probably the receiver first

11-25-2007, 05:56 AM	#3
quetzalcoatl Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Grants Pass, OR	Well the last one would be good room. Since how many of us will ever get to build our own HT room? I would have to go with receiver as well and for one big reason. You can buy the best speakers around but if you have junk to power them it does not matter.

11-25-2007, 06:00 AM	#4
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	well, what i trying to say is you have unlimited budget for only one of those thing, you can either have the best built room for home theater, the best receiver or the best speakers

11-25-2007, 06:03 AM	#5
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	well with that said, I'd build the ht room. The receiver & speakers would only be about 1k w/ a goo onkyo system but a room is so much more. so I go with the room!!!

11-25-2007, 06:07 AM	#6
tegal3 Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:9	The most important is the room acoustic. It doesn't matter if you have the most expensive speakers or audio components but if you don't have a good room, you won't get to enjoy the full potential of your equipments.

11-25-2007, 06:15 AM	#7
yellowblanket Senior Member Member since:Oct 2007 Home Theater Gallery:9 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:1	hawknelson05, imagine if all those 3 factors cost exactly the same. Reason i said that because i think you only picked the room because u thought it is have the most expensive cost. =)

11-25-2007, 06:16 AM	#8
gvortex7 Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Fort Lauderdale, FL Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:105	Well, to be honest you really need all of the above to have an ideal home theater setup, but most people don't have a room that's perfect in every sense (speaker placement, right acoustics). But, you can still get good equipment to get the best out of your viewing/listening environment. One thing to note though, a good receiver requires a good set of speakers. One is only as good as the other it's paired with.

11-25-2007, 06:24 AM	#9
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	well, if they all cost exactly the same personally i would go with the room. My family nor I have ever had surround sound so I can live without it. So thats MY opinion

11-25-2007, 06:47 AM	#13
JadedRaverLA Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	The good room hands down. Though it's sadly the one item that most of us will never be able to actually get. It can be incredibly expense and usually impractical or impossible to make the room acoustics perfect, but when they are, it's bliss.

11-25-2007, 07:00 AM	#14
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	i dont see where this is going

11-25-2007, 02:01 PM	#15
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	You have to bundle room and speakers unless you are spending huge money on sound treatments. That said, the list would be: 1) Speakers (in your room) 2) electronics to drive them. (receivers, amps, preamps, etc) No speakers will sound the same in a demo room and in your house unless both rooms are the same. Great speakers can sound bad in the wrong room. Mediocre speakers can good in the right room. (ever heard a Bose demo in their room?) Bad speakers are just bad.

11-25-2007, 02:24 PM	#16
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	I have to disagree with putting speakers ahead of the "source". Assuming you are getting HDMI into your receiver with the codecs bitstreamed, the receiver is the "source". Let's say you bought insanely good speakers... $25,000 each. And hooked it up to the Onkyo 605 that everyone around here loves. It would sound like crap. Why? Because the speakers are so good you can hear the flaws in the sound from the receiver. Ok, that's an extreme example, but it illustrates the point. An example of putting your money in the source... I was at a home theater show a few years ago, PSB Speakers was having a blind listening test. They had some speakers hidden behind a thin black sheet so the sound could come through but you couldn't see the speaker. They played some music and asked people to guess how much these (I believe brand new) speakers cost. The average was about $5000 on the guesses I believe. In reality, they were PSB Alpha's, at $199 per pair. http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...ha-LR1-Monitor The secret? They had an amazing source, the source system was about $10,000 I think. The moral of the story... a great source and amp can get great sound out of almost any speaker. As for the room - you usually can't do much about it... and the newer receivers can partially compensate for it I believe. P.S. I have nothing against Onkyo, just used it as a popular example.

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