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gvortex7 · 11-25-2007, 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawknelson05

well, if they all cost exactly the same personally i would go with the room. My family nor I have ever had surround sound so I can live without it. So thats MY opinion

They don't all cost the same, but they all have the same significance.

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gvortex7

They don't all cost the same, but they all have the same significance.

I think he's trying to make hypothetical situations, thus my hypothetical answer. Obviously a room is significantly more expensive than a receiver and speakers

gvortex7 · 11-25-2007, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hawknelson05

I think he's trying to make hypothetical situations, thus my hypothetical answer. Obviously a room is significantly more expensive than a receiver and speakers

I guess I meant speakers and receivers to be more specific.

JadedRaverLA · 11-25-2007, 06:47 AM

The good room hands down. Though it's sadly the one item that most of us will never be able to actually get. It can be incredibly expense and usually impractical or impossible to make the room acoustics perfect, but when they are, it's bliss.

Hawknelson05 · 11-25-2007, 07:00 AM

i dont see where this is going

bootman · 11-25-2007, 02:01 PM

You have to bundle room and speakers unless you are spending huge money on sound treatments.

That said, the list would be:

1) Speakers (in your room)
2) electronics to drive them. (receivers, amps, preamps, etc)

No speakers will sound the same in a demo room and in your house unless both rooms are the same.

Great speakers can sound bad in the wrong room.
Mediocre speakers can good in the right room. (ever heard a Bose demo in their room?)
Bad speakers are just bad.

The Guardian · 11-25-2007, 02:24 PM

I have to disagree with putting speakers ahead of the "source".

Assuming you are getting HDMI into your receiver with the codecs bitstreamed, the receiver is the "source".

Let's say you bought insanely good speakers... $25,000 each. And hooked it up to the Onkyo 605 that everyone around here loves. It would sound like crap. Why? Because the speakers are so good you can hear the flaws in the sound from the receiver. Ok, that's an extreme example, but it illustrates the point.

An example of putting your money in the source... I was at a home theater show a few years ago, PSB Speakers was having a blind listening test. They had some speakers hidden behind a thin black sheet so the sound could come through but you couldn't see the speaker. They played some music and asked people to guess how much these (I believe brand new) speakers cost. The average was about $5000 on the guesses I believe.

In reality, they were PSB Alpha's, at $199 per pair. http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...ha-LR1-Monitor

The secret? They had an amazing source, the source system was about $10,000 I think.

The moral of the story... a great source and amp can get great sound out of almost any speaker.

As for the room - you usually can't do much about it... and the newer receivers can partially compensate for it I believe.

P.S. I have nothing against Onkyo, just used it as a popular example.

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11-25-2007, 06:47 AM	#4
JadedRaverLA Power Member Member since:Apr 2007 Blu-ray reviews:2	The good room hands down. Though it's sadly the one item that most of us will never be able to actually get. It can be incredibly expense and usually impractical or impossible to make the room acoustics perfect, but when they are, it's bliss.

11-25-2007, 07:00 AM	#5
Hawknelson05 Banned Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Gainesville Trading Score:1	i dont see where this is going

11-25-2007, 02:01 PM	#6
bootman Special Member Member since:Sep 2007 Location:The Burghs	You have to bundle room and speakers unless you are spending huge money on sound treatments. That said, the list would be: 1) Speakers (in your room) 2) electronics to drive them. (receivers, amps, preamps, etc) No speakers will sound the same in a demo room and in your house unless both rooms are the same. Great speakers can sound bad in the wrong room. Mediocre speakers can good in the right room. (ever heard a Bose demo in their room?) Bad speakers are just bad.

11-25-2007, 02:24 PM	#7
The Guardian Expert Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Kitchener, ON Blu-ray collection:9 Trading Score:1	I have to disagree with putting speakers ahead of the "source". Assuming you are getting HDMI into your receiver with the codecs bitstreamed, the receiver is the "source". Let's say you bought insanely good speakers... $25,000 each. And hooked it up to the Onkyo 605 that everyone around here loves. It would sound like crap. Why? Because the speakers are so good you can hear the flaws in the sound from the receiver. Ok, that's an extreme example, but it illustrates the point. An example of putting your money in the source... I was at a home theater show a few years ago, PSB Speakers was having a blind listening test. They had some speakers hidden behind a thin black sheet so the sound could come through but you couldn't see the speaker. They played some music and asked people to guess how much these (I believe brand new) speakers cost. The average was about $5000 on the guesses I believe. In reality, they were PSB Alpha's, at $199 per pair. http://www.psbspeakers.com/products/...ha-LR1-Monitor The secret? They had an amazing source, the source system was about $10,000 I think. The moral of the story... a great source and amp can get great sound out of almost any speaker. As for the room - you usually can't do much about it... and the newer receivers can partially compensate for it I believe. P.S. I have nothing against Onkyo, just used it as a popular example.

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