Looks like Europe is all Blu! - Blu-ray Forum

Tekman · 11-30-2007, 02:45 AM

Elandyll · 11-30-2007, 02:57 AM

Wait .. Is that HD DVD standalones + HD DVD Xobx add ons vs Blu Ray standalones + all PS3s sold?

If so, despite me being a big Blu Ray adopter, this is unfortunately some misleading graphics (due to the amount of PS3s not used as Blu Ray players) that Toshiba will attack like a pack of rabid dogs.

If it is not including all PS3s sold, how was this graphic made ?

kknight · 11-30-2007, 04:27 AM

yikes if this graph is accurate, no hell in anyway HD-DVD stands a chance

dialog_gvf · 11-30-2007, 04:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Elandyll

unfortunately some misleading graphics (due to the amount of PS3s not used as Blu Ray players) that Toshiba will attack like a pack of rabid dogs.

In the end disc sales are what matters, and that is 73% in favour of Blu-ray for this year.

How does having a 3:1 software sales advantage AND a bunch of people already owning a Blu-ray player and not yet using it help HD DVD at all?

Gary

mystiksuicide · 11-30-2007, 04:53 AM

If blu was really was superior why is it only winning by 94%?? Seems like hd dvd still has a great chance!!

Canada · 11-30-2007, 04:56 AM

I wish North America was as smart as Europe

w_tanoto · 11-30-2007, 06:32 AM

i believe the same number was announced last september:
according to gfk:
70% of standalone players are HD DVD, but if PS3 and XBOX360 Add-ons included, it's 94% to BD

gerardfma · 11-30-2007, 09:25 AM

Well, this kind of figures are always misleading and are used differently by BD and HD-DVD camp. You can count players only, players and game console, or even players, game consoles and computers. And for each case you have major differences...

What is important at the end is the ratio of medias BD // HD-DVD, nothing else. And unlike Nielsen in the US, there is no official report in Europe (yet), neither in France where I leave. Un-officially, the ratio in France varies between 55/45 and 45/55 so needless to say that this un-needed war is not yet over...

Grisle · 11-30-2007, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Canada

I wish North America was as smart as Europe

Soon enough...I hope!

Giyomu · 11-30-2007, 10:18 AM

I confirm
I am european

shoot me, my blood is blu

Iron Man · 11-30-2007, 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Giyomu

I confirm
I am european

Me too

Blu_Ray_UK2007 · 11-30-2007, 01:00 PM

pwned!

rezpekt · 11-30-2007, 05:35 PM

Living Near Shamu · 11-30-2007, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rezpekt

Nice Poster

sodrock · 11-30-2007, 05:53 PM

It is not misleading

"Playback Functions YTD: Players Consoles"

People read the graphic before you post

11-30-2007, 02:45 AM	#1
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11-30-2007, 02:57 AM	#2
Elandyll Blu-ray Knight Member since:Aug 2007 Location:MD Blu-ray collection:188 Trading Score:1	Wait .. Is that HD DVD standalones + HD DVD Xobx add ons vs Blu Ray standalones + all PS3s sold? If so, despite me being a big Blu Ray adopter, this is unfortunately some misleading graphics (due to the amount of PS3s not used as Blu Ray players) that Toshiba will attack like a pack of rabid dogs. If it is not including all PS3s sold, how was this graphic made ?

11-30-2007, 04:27 AM	#3
kknight Senior Member Member since:Jan 2007 Location:Minnesota Blu-ray reviews:55	yikes if this graph is accurate, no hell in anyway HD-DVD stands a chance

11-30-2007, 04:53 AM	#5
mystiksuicide Blu-ray Guru Member since:Sep 2007 Location:Miami Blu-ray collection:305 Blu-ray reviews:27	If blu was really was superior why is it only winning by 94%?? Seems like hd dvd still has a great chance!!

11-30-2007, 04:56 AM	#6
Canada Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Victoria, BC Home Theater Gallery:17 4K collection:305 Blu-ray collection:1201 DVD collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:42	I wish North America was as smart as Europe

11-30-2007, 06:32 AM	#7
w_tanoto Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hatfield, UK / Jakarta, Indonesia Blu-ray collection:37 Blu-ray reviews:47	i believe the same number was announced last september: according to gfk: 70% of standalone players are HD DVD, but if PS3 and XBOX360 Add-ons included, it's 94% to BD

11-30-2007, 09:25 AM	#8
gerardfma Junior Member Member since:Oct 2007	Well, this kind of figures are always misleading and are used differently by BD and HD-DVD camp. You can count players only, players and game console, or even players, game consoles and computers. And for each case you have major differences... What is important at the end is the ratio of medias BD // HD-DVD, nothing else. And unlike Nielsen in the US, there is no official report in Europe (yet), neither in France where I leave. Un-officially, the ratio in France varies between 55/45 and 45/55 so needless to say that this un-needed war is not yet over...

11-30-2007, 10:18 AM	#10
Giyomu Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:France Blu-ray collection:347 Blu-ray reviews:6	I confirm I am european shoot me, my blood is blu

11-30-2007, 01:00 PM	#12
Blu_Ray_UK2007 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2007 Location:UK 4K collection:164 Blu-ray collection:782 Trading Score:1	pwned!

11-30-2007, 05:35 PM	#13
rezpekt Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Estonia 4K collection:450 Blu-ray collection:1889 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1

11-30-2007, 05:53 PM	#15
sodrock Active Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Nashville, TN Blu-ray collection:104 Blu-ray reviews:1	It is *not* misleading "Playback Functions YTD: Players Consoles" People read the graphic before you post

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