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Old 12-26-2007, 09:11 PM   #1
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i've recently inquired about swaping my 50" 720p samsung (HPT5054) to a 46" 1080p LCD (LNT4661F) and guess what? i did.i called BB if i can exchange my 50" sammy 720 plasma to a 46" sammy 1080p lcd even i dont have the box anymore they said its ok.so i brought back the sammy 50" and took the 46" lcd home.after 2 days of watching on my new 46" lcd with my sammy BDP1400 i started missing my old 50" plasma i mean even though that plasma is only 720p i think the PQ IMO is much better than this lcd that i've got its more realistic looking and the blacks are much deeper.so what i did is i went to best buy again and took this lcd back and picked up the 50" plasma again (sorry BB) and now my 50" plasma is back and i couldnt more happier.i dont think im going to let this TV go again.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:21 PM   #2
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All my TVs are 720 - only 1080p I have is a projector. I think it is very possible that a 720p TV can produce a better image than a 1080p, depending on model. That is why I don't understand why most people on this forum always seem to recommend a 1080p, regardless of budget.

If my budget means I can get a 1080p, or a larger and higher quality 720p TV - I will pick the 720 every time.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:25 PM   #3
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All my TVs are 720 - only 1080p I have is a projector. I think it is very possible that a 720p TV can produce a better image than a 1080p, depending on model. That is why I don't understand why most people on this forum always seem to recommend a 1080p, regardless of budget.

If my budget means I can get a 1080p, or a larger and higher quality 720p TV - I will pick the 720 every time.
maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:28 PM   #4
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maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.
If you want the most out of your BD, you will pick the TV that produces the best image - period. Do you not think there a many 720p TV that look better than a lot of 1080p TVs?
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:36 PM   #5
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If you want the most out of your BD, you will pick the TV that produces the best image - period. Do you not think there a many 720p TV that look better than a lot of 1080p TVs?
there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:52 PM   #6
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there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.
i think whats matter most is the one that looks good into your eyes.it doesnt matter if its 480p,720p,1080p as long as it makes you happy go for it.
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Old 12-26-2007, 09:57 PM   #7
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maybe some people want the most out of their Blu-ray systems, that means 1080 vertical lines of progressive resolution.

tv quality does differ though.
i think what all of us need is a CONTENTMENT
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Old 12-26-2007, 10:52 PM   #8
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there might be, however the best 720p tv does not look nearly as good as a good 1080p tv.

take the best 1080p plasma and compare it to the best 720p plasma.

Im not talking about comparing a Ploroid to a Poneer.

Proven fact: higher resolution yeilds a better picture.

But as I stated, tv quality differs.
First of all, it is not a proven fact that higher resolution yeilds a better pictures. There are many different variables to consider when picking the right TV. But you have proved my point that many people here only seemed concerned with the resolution.

If someone can only afford an entry level 1080p TV, or a mid to upper level 720p TV - which would you recommend?
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:05 PM   #9
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First of all, it is not a proven fact that higher resolution yeilds a better pictures. There are many different variables to consider when picking the right TV. But you have proved my point that many people here only seemed concerned with the resolution.

If someone can only afford an entry level 1080p TV, or a mid to upper level 720p TV - which would you recommend?

1080 vertical lines of resolution= more pixles for display, yeilding a higher resolution. Right?

OK, compareing apples to apples, a 720p set next to a 1080p set of the same brand both high end models, lets say Pioneer plasmas. Both with Pirates 3 playing during water scenes on Blu-ray.

You are telling me you wont see a difference?
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:09 PM   #10
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I think my 50" sony rear projection that I bought 2 and 1/2 years ago has a better high picture than most of the 1080p's I see in the store right now. I'm not sure why, but of the other people I know that have full 1080p and even the ones that don't, everyone is always amazed at how nice my picture is when in HD.
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:15 PM   #11
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1080 vertical lines of resolution= more pixles for display, yeilding a higher resolution. Right?

OK, compareing apples to apples, a 720p set next to a 1080p set of the same brand both high end models, lets say Pioneer plasmas. Both with Pirates 3 playing during water scenes on Blu-ray.

You are telling me you wont see a difference?
Yes, more resolution = more resolution. However, more resolution does not always equal better image.

Now, if you compare a high end 1080p against a high end 720p, you should be able to tell a difference - depending on the source and distance to TV.

But, how many times have you heard someone ask if they should get a high end 1080 or a high end 720? Usually the question is - 'I have $1500 to spend on a TV - which should I get?" My point is depending on the budget, it is sometimes better to go with a 720 over a 1080.
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Old 12-26-2007, 11:21 PM   #12
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Yes, more resolution = more resolution. However, more resolution does not always equal better image.

Now, if you compare a high end 1080p against a high end 720p, you should be able to tell a difference - depending on the source and distance to TV.

But, how many times have you heard someone ask if they should get a high end 1080 or a high end 720? Usually the question is - 'I have $1500 to spend on a TV - which should I get?" My point is depending on the budget, it is sometimes better to go with a 720 over a 1080.
Budget allowing for either a high end 720 vs a budget 1080, is a different story.

We all know of quality differences between brands and even models. And your right, a High end 720 set can look and perform better than a cheap 1080 model.
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Old 12-27-2007, 01:20 AM   #13
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Budget allowing for either a high end 720 vs a budget 1080, is a different story.

We all know of quality differences between brands and even models. And your right, a High end 720 set can look and perform better than a cheap 1080 model.

To throw another 'monkey wrench' into this discussion, a well calibrated 720P tv will look better than an 'out of the box' 1080p tv anyday. There are so many variables involved. I owned a 3 year old Panny plasma that was 720p. It had been tweaked to look fantastic. I did not fall into the 1080p trap at first, until I laid eyes on the new 5010 Pioneer. It immediately looked better (uncalibrated) than my panny with SD, HD and BD sources. It had nothing to do with the resolution and everything to do with its video processing. So I bought it. I am coming up to the 100 hour break in time and will have it calibrated. There is nothing better than a well calibrated monitor, 720 or 1080P.
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:26 AM   #14
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To throw another 'monkey wrench' into this discussion, a well calibrated 720P tv will look better than an 'out of the box' 1080p tv anyday. There are so many variables involved. I owned a 3 year old Panny plasma that was 720p. It had been tweaked to look fantastic. I did not fall into the 1080p trap at first, until I laid eyes on the new 5010 Pioneer. It immediately looked better (uncalibrated) than my panny with SD, HD and BD sources. It had nothing to do with the resolution and everything to do with its video processing. So I bought it. I am coming up to the 100 hour break in time and will have it calibrated. There is nothing better than a well calibrated monitor, 720 or 1080P.
may i ask how much do i need to pay for calibration?and who to ask to do it?or can i do it by myself?
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Old 12-27-2007, 04:33 AM   #15
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may i ask how much do i need to pay for calibration?and who to ask to do it?or can i do it by myself?
If you have the Ratatouille Blu-ray there is a do-it-yourself calibration feature.
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Old 12-27-2007, 05:27 AM   #16
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If you buy a tiny or crappy 1080p TV, yes, its not going to look better than a 720p

My rule of thumb is this- If you must buy 40" or less, buying a quality, name 720p set is preferable over a crap brand 1080p set. But I suggest every time that you save your $$ for a good 1080p set over 40"

I saved for 3 years
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Old 12-27-2007, 01:51 PM   #17
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The LNT4661F is actually a decent 1080P set, so calibrated it should look better than that 720P plasma when being fed 1080P material. Basing your decisions on uncalibrated displays is very counterproductive towards achieving comparable results. All you'd be doing is fooling yourself.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:07 PM   #18
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i have a samy 720 dlp i got last year. it was $1000 cheaper than 1080p at the time. i sit about 9 feet away from the tv. im sure i could probably see a difference between 720 and 1080, but enough enough to warrant the price difference.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:11 PM   #19
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I have two 720p TV's and a 720p projector. I've thought of getting rid of the 50" DLP and getting a 46" LCD 1080p, but I think I'd rather invest the money into a 2nd Blu Ray player for my bedroom and some more Blu Ray's. I plan to get a 1080p TV, but it's not a necessity to me.
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Old 12-27-2007, 03:31 PM   #20
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I have a 768 panel that accepts a 1080p signal, to be honest it looks just as good as any 1080p screen i've seen. I'd not consider a 1080p screen until I was shopping for over 50" because the detail is lost on anything smaller. Plus you have to be on top of the screen to see any difference smaller than 50".

1080 lines is better in the respect your not scaling blu's, but instead you would be scaling most games instead. So unless you've got 2 different TV's (720 and 1080) your always hitting and missing, depending on your input.
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