How far can DuDers Spin their Demise?

[TheEnd187]

Oh well.
Well, the studios got the format they wanted, at the expense of regular folks. Here's what HDDVD has that Bluray does not:
* Mandatory TrueHD support for lossless compressed audio
* Mandatory AVC/VC-1 MPEG4 compression (many early Bluray discs had artifacty and slovenly MPEG-2 encodes)
* Mandatory Managed Copy (to store HDDVDs on a media PC hard disk) on every disc
* No region coding (this is probably what pissed the studios off MOST, and offered the most value especially to European consumers)
* Mandatory networking and local storage hardware (but NOT mandatory network hookup, you can play all HDDVDs fully disconnected if you choose)

The overall-superior tech lost again. But wtf do I know, I was a big fan of Atari Lynx and Jaguar...

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-declared-dead

I just felt like punching this guy in the face.

[Verbal]

Meh...I tend not to take the opinion of Brian Fantana's right testicle all that seriously.

(for those unfamiliar, the name "Dr. Kenneth Noisewater" is from the film Anchorman).

[PeechCobblerPie]

...lossless compressed audio

...douche


I believe those 2 words cancel one another out

[Verbal]

Originally Posted by PeechCobblerPie

...douche


I believe those 2 words cancel one another out

No they don't...there's such a thing as lossless compression. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA are examples of it.

So are FLAC, HD-AAC, TTA...

[Joe Cain]

Never mind the fact that Mandatory Managed Copy (a) is mandated for both formats and (b) doesn't exist in any meaningful universal implementation yet.

Originally Posted by Verbal

No they don't...there's such a thing as lossless compression. Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD MA are examples of it.

So are FLAC, HD-AAC, TTA...

Plus APE, plus SHN...

[WickyWoo]

Mandatory managed copy on every disc?

Let me count the HD DVDs with this feature......................

Let me find the announcement of any disc with any portable version on it............

Oh damn , not a one

[Joe Cain]

Do you ever get the feeling some folks confuse Mandatory Managed Copy with, oh, I dunno--easy piracy?

[RUR]

Originally Posted by Joe Cain

Do you ever get the feeling some folks confuse Mandatory Managed Copy with, oh, I dunno--easy piracy?

Bingo.

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by TheEnd187

http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/inquir...-declared-dead

I just felt like punching this guy in the face.

Mandatory AVC/VC-1 Compression? uhhhhhhh. He needs to look at the specs again. Both HD-DVD and Blu can use AVC/VC-1/MPEG2. In fact, i seem to recall Amir gloating somewhat recently as CE's have to pay royalties to MS for VC-1 codec decoding.. hrmmmmm

Early releases had nothing to do with compression, other than MPEG2 was the pr oven standard and chosen to initially launch with. Codec support had nothing to do with it. Besides, was it mandatory that all encodes for HD-DVD must be VC-1?

Mandatory Ethernet? Um, does the standalone also pay for mandatory broadband costs? Someone should tell him phone jacks != to ethernet jacks.

[JTK]

Desperation + Insanity + Delusions = no limits. All bets are off.

[Musashi]

So... HD-DVD players mandated TrueHD decoding despite the fact the it lacked the disc size and speed to actually use lossless except in rare cases