Rob Enderle Cried Again

[ranma]

Here is some interesting quote
http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/rob/?p=182

Second, Toshiba should have worked with Nintendo to ensure Nintendo wasn’t manufacturing-constrained and could fulfill Wii demand, holding down PS3 sales.

He would rather say toshiba should shutdown the cell processor factory, so make sure not single one ps3 will be manufactured.

[dialog_gvf]

How the Lack of Competitive Analysis and Nintendo Caused Blu-Ray’s Decisive Victory

OK, who are you, and what have you done with Rob Enderle?

Awhile back, I did a series using Blu-Ray as an example of a bad decision. A lot of folks reading this thought I was recommending HD-DVD or even saying it would win.

WARNING: Reputation repair underway. Watch your step for BS.

HD-DVD Wins

Maybe we got that impression from you saying it?

[ranma]

I believed I've read his blog about warner rumor last month. I could be wrong, but I remembered he insisted that WB going red = red win, WB going blu = tie and prolonged war.

Seems he ate his words now.

[glenn22]

While this article actually makes sense in a lot of ways, he's got almost no credibility.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

How the Lack of Competitive Analysis and Nintendo Caused Blu-Ray’s Decisive Victory

OK, who are you, and what have you done with Rob Enderle?



WARNING: Reputation repair underway. Watch your step for BS.

HD-DVD Wins

Maybe we got that impression from you saying it?

Enderle says this:

"In looking back at the sequence of events, the HD-DVD camp made several mistakes."

I thought Robbie boy was an analyst. He is supposed to be able to see what's happening ahead of time, not look back see the obvious. Anyone could do that. He has been predicting hd-dvd would win and he was too thick headed to know he was wrong.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

WARNING: Reputation repair underway. Watch your step for BS.

Too late. He's an idiot.

[aygie]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

How the Lack of Competitive Analysis and Nintendo Caused Blu-Ray’s Decisive Victory

OK, who are you, and what have you done with Rob Enderle?



WARNING: Reputation repair underway. Watch your step for BS.

HD-DVD Wins

Maybe we got that impression from you saying it?

great post.

[radagast]

"At CES, the buzz was on set-top boxes and either streamed or downloaded content, suggesting that Sony’s hard win was a Pyrrhic victory, at best. I have both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray players, and the last player I purchased (and wrote about) was the Addonics Zebra HD-DVD/Blu-Ray dual-mode drive, but I still use my Oppo up-converting DVD player more than any other HD product I have. "

How exactly is promoting downloads, or saying he uses an upconverter more than any other HD device, going to repair his rep?

[WriteSimply]

He doesn't make a good tech commentator and should cultivate a different industry to his website.


fuad

[jason_grumpy]

Originally Posted by dialog_gvf

How the Lack of Competitive Analysis and Nintendo Caused Blu-Ray’s Decisive Victory

OK, who are you, and what have you done with Rob Enderle?



WARNING: Reputation repair underway. Watch your step for BS.

HD-DVD Wins

Maybe we got that impression from you saying it?

I couldn't resist.. been waiting to use this one for Rob.

[Thegide]

I couldn't resist posting this.

"I'm sorry Rob. Still you fail to accept that Blu-ray is and always has been better than HD DVD. Maybe you are a Sony-hater, and that fuels your ignorance. The Wii is an irrelevant argument in this case. It's features do not directly compete with either the x360 or PS3. It's an inexpensive gaming system with novel functions that a large segment of the gaming market purchases in addition to either an xbox or ps3.

I don't think Toshiba did anything wrong, other than fight for so long. The financial impact of practically giving away HD DVD hardware precluded them from doing much else, in case you hadn't noticed. Let's not forget buy-off money.

Toshiba offered an inferior product, and was used by Microsoft under the guise of support. This corporate strategy Microsoft used should have been anticipated - they have a history of following their own interests at the expense of corporate partners. I'm happy that the pricing disadvantages of the PS3 and Blu-ray were minimized, and fully believe that was a key point in the success of the BDA's win. Toshiba ran out of playing cards, plain and simple, and got trounced. When they were unable to continue clearance pricing and BD came back with profile 1.1 and BD Live, they had no moves left to make. Checkmate.

On a side note, I'm disappointed by your lack of objectivity in this entire ordeal. As president of [your own] technology advisory firm, you should feel embarassed that you let your own personal bias interfere with the obvious market situation. Best of luck repairing your reputation."

[Jordahn]

So does this Rob fellow actually reads these threads??? If not, send him an email to expose his fud.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by Jordahn

So does this Rob fellow actually reads these threads??? If not, send him an email to expose his fud.

I sent him the following email earlier today:

"Well Mr. Enderle,
I am not surprised anymore at the ridiculous things you say. I am convinced you just can't help yourself.

In this writing of yours:

http://www.itbusinessedge.com/blogs/rob/?p=182

You ACTUALLY write:

"In looking back at the sequence of events, the HD-DVD camp made several mistakes."

Looking back? I thought you were an analyst. ANYONE can look back. You have been making predictions right and left, that have proven wrong.

Like this one:

http://www.technologypundits.com/ind...article_id=373

Hd-dvd wins? I suppose I should just pop some popcorn and laugh at your "analysis" from now on. It really is getting amusing.

And now you have left the hd-dvd fold and are preaching the Microsoft company line: Digital downloads.

"At CES, the buzz was on set-top boxes and either streamed or downloaded content,..."

No, it wasn't. YOU are the only one "buzzing" about it. No one else is. I haven't read ONE CES report that talks about downloads. Not one.

Isn't there something else you can do for a living?"


I didn't even bring up his awful "Iraq" piece about the PS3. Is he returns my email, I am going to bring it up.

[mgonzo2u]

Originally Posted by Thegide

I couldn't resist posting this.

"I'm sorry Rob. Still you fail to accept that Blu-ray is and always has been better than HD DVD. Maybe you are a Sony-hater, and that fuels your ignorance. The Wii is an irrelevant argument in this case. It's features do not directly compete with either the x360 or PS3. It's an inexpensive gaming system with novel functions that a large segment of the gaming market purchases in addition to either an xbox or ps3.

I don't think Toshiba did anything wrong, other than fight for so long. The financial impact of practically giving away HD DVD hardware precluded them from doing much else, in case you hadn't noticed. Let's not forget buy-off money.

Toshiba offered an inferior product, and was used by Microsoft under the guise of support. This corporate strategy Microsoft used should have been anticipated - they have a history of following their own interests at the expense of corporate partners. I'm happy that the pricing disadvantages of the PS3 and Blu-ray were minimized, and fully believe that was a key point in the success of the BDA's win. Toshiba ran out of playing cards, plain and simple, and got trounced. When they were unable to continue clearance pricing and BD came back with profile 1.1 and BD Live, they had no moves left to make. Checkmate.

On a side note, I'm disappointed by your lack of objectivity in this entire ordeal. As president of [your own] technology advisory firm, you should feel embarassed that you let your own personal bias interfere with the obvious market situation. Best of luck repairing your reputation."

That should leave him "Red" faced and stewing.

Facts should do that to people.

[The Laughing Man]

Wow. I know a LOT of people that bought Wiis and NONE of them would have bought a PS3.

They appeal to almost the polar opposite of audiences. If I were Toshiba I would have courted Microsoft heavier.

I came to Blu-Ray by way of a PS3. One of the main reasons I bought the PS3 when I did was because I was also getting a player. Was I paying more for it? Yes, but it was like getting 2 devices for 1.

And even if PS3 games were crap, at the very least I would have Sony brand Blu-Ray player. If Blu-ray died then at the least I would have a game system.

I saw it as a win-win for me. I now recommend the PS3 to others who are considering jumping in to the HD waters. (And there have been a lot ask my opinion since WB bailed!).

[JTK]

Nintendo knows better than to come within a mile of Toshiba. Right there alone Enderle shows he doesn't know what he's talking about, but then again, he's essentially a paid tool for Toshiba anyways, so you get what you get.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by radagast

I didn't even bring up his awful "Iraq" piece about the PS3. Is he returns my email, I am going to bring it up.

Well as I was posting this, Robbie boy answered my email with this:

"Evidently you can't read:

Brian Roberts, chairman and CEO of Comcast Corp., delivered the morning keynote address, becoming the first chief executive from the cable industry to deliver a CES keynote. Roberts said today's convergence of media has ushered in a new era for Comcast, which he referred to as Comcast 3.0. He identified innovation, technology, choice and customer service as the four major elements at the center of Comcast 3.0.

Roberts announced the end of an era for set-top boxes, and proclaimed a new generation for two-way platforms with the introduction of an OpenCable platform called tru2way. Panasonic president Toshihiro Sakamoto joined Roberts on stage to announce their co-creation of AnyPlay, the first portable DVR and DVD combination with tru2way capability. Roberts also announced that more than 1,000 HD choices will be available for the portable device in 2008.

With the help of American Idol's Ryan Seacrest, Roberts debuted Fancast, a launch pad for the convergence of the PC and television, creating a personalized television experience. The individualized site links quickly and easily to content on the television, Internet, DVDs or in theaters. With the use of wideband instead of broadband, Fancast is able to download a two-plus hour HD movie in four minutes. It is the first site where consumers can find, watch and manage all their video content in one place."


I responded with this:

"I can read. My point is: This "news" isn't buzzing anywhere else. The only person excited about it is you and everyone at Microsoft. And unless the HD quality is better than what Comcast is calling "HD" now, it isn't going to compare to REAL HD. I have Comcast HD cable right now and the artifacts are frequently disgustingly awful. And do you think Comcast is going to let people download for free? What if they want to watch the program again in two weeks? What about special features like they can get on DVDs and Blu-rays?

And while I am talking about your awful, wretched writings, this one was beyond the pale:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Z...eek-60557.html


Forget the fact that the PS3 is now a sales success. Forget that the Zune is a joke. Every person who has lost someone in the Iraq war should slap you across the face for this gibberish and drivel. You have no class at all in using dead U.S. soldiers in your stupid analogy. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you haven't the decency, intelligence, or class.

Seriously, you are awful as an analyst. Bill Hunt is right most of the time. You are wrong most of the time. If you have any clients, I can't imagine you will keep them if you are doing the same quality of analysis for them.

You need to do something else with your life. You are awful at this."

[mgonzo2u]

LOL at you PWN R.E. yet again by email.

Not that its too tough.

[Texitura]

Originally Posted by radagast

Seriously, you are awful as an analyst. Bill Hunt is right most of the time. You are wrong most of the time. If you have any clients, I can't imagine you will keep them if you are doing the same quality of analysis for them.

You need to do something else with your life. You are awful at this."[/I]

He's not an analyst. He writes what his clients tell him to say, and I'm not sure he even actually "writes" it himself. Maybe more like he "types" it.

[Jordahn]

Originally Posted by radagast

Well as I was posting this, Robbie boy answered my email with this:

"Evidently you can't read:

Brian Roberts, chairman and CEO of Comcast Corp., delivered the morning keynote address, becoming the first chief executive from the cable industry to deliver a CES keynote. Roberts said today's convergence of media has ushered in a new era for Comcast, which he referred to as Comcast 3.0. He identified innovation, technology, choice and customer service as the four major elements at the center of Comcast 3.0.

Roberts announced the end of an era for set-top boxes, and proclaimed a new generation for two-way platforms with the introduction of an OpenCable platform called tru2way. Panasonic president Toshihiro Sakamoto joined Roberts on stage to announce their co-creation of AnyPlay, the first portable DVR and DVD combination with tru2way capability. Roberts also announced that more than 1,000 HD choices will be available for the portable device in 2008.

With the help of American Idol's Ryan Seacrest, Roberts debuted Fancast, a launch pad for the convergence of the PC and television, creating a personalized television experience. The individualized site links quickly and easily to content on the television, Internet, DVDs or in theaters. With the use of wideband instead of broadband, Fancast is able to download a two-plus hour HD movie in four minutes. It is the first site where consumers can find, watch and manage all their video content in one place."


I responded with this:

"I can read. My point is: This "news" isn't buzzing anywhere else. The only person excited about it is you and everyone at Microsoft. And unless the HD quality is better than what Comcast is calling "HD" now, it isn't going to compare to REAL HD. I have Comcast HD cable right now and the artifacts are frequently disgustingly awful. And do you think Comcast is going to let people download for free? What if they want to watch the program again in two weeks? What about special features like they can get on DVDs and Blu-rays?

And while I am talking about your awful, wretched writings, this one was beyond the pale:

http://www.technewsworld.com/story/Z...eek-60557.html


Forget the fact that the PS3 is now a sales success. Forget that the Zune is a joke. Every person who has lost someone in the Iraq war should slap you across the face for this gibberish and drivel. You have no class at all in using dead U.S. soldiers in your stupid analogy. You should be ashamed of yourself, but you haven't the decency, intelligence, or class.

Seriously, you are awful as an analyst. Bill Hunt is right most of the time. You are wrong most of the time. If you have any clients, I can't imagine you will keep them if you are doing the same quality of analysis for them.

You need to do something else with your life. You are awful at this."

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! I usually notice that when the going gets tough, the FUDDERS change the subject.