Hannibal: Season Two (StudioCanal) - Sept. 1st, 2014

[FilmFanSam]

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[blurayoliver]

Fingers crossed it's listed at £14 like season 1

[TJ Doc]

... And uncut.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by TJ Doc

... And uncut.

It was uncut last time, but lacking the producer's cuts. I'm guessing it'll be a similar deal with season 2 as well...

[TJ Doc]

boooooo

[McCrutchy]

This just dropped to £20.

Originally Posted by Buzz201

It was uncut last time, but lacking the producer's cuts. I'm guessing it'll be a similar deal with season 2 as well...

There is none of this "Producer's Cut" nonsense for season two.

To be clear, Movie Censorship had reported that Bryan Fuller "made cuts" to the second season, but the quotation they posted uses a lot of ambiguous language:

I am both surprised and also impressed. For instance, in the second episode when Ryan Field tears himself out of the human mural, seeing that was a very surreal experience and kind of out of body, in some way. I was watching it and was horrified by what I was seeing, and yet I accepted it as the reality that I was being presented. I expected Standards and Practices to pull us back from it, but we had removed a couple of flesh tearing shots before the version that has aired. It’s a tonnage issue. So, even though we had removed some of the shots, there was still the big one left and I thought we were going to get dinged on that because I was cringing and I wrote it. It was pretty impressive that we did actually get to air it. There were some things later in the season where they were like, “Okay, we need to pull back on that.” It’s all reasonable stuff. We’re lucky to be working with a Standards and Practices executive who works with us and says, “You can’t do this, but you can do this. You can’t show that, but here’s a way that you could possibly solve it.” She will cooperate with us, and it is very helpful.

So, has material been cut? Obviously, it has. But the question is: Why was it cut? Was it an artistic decision? From Fuller's quotation, it certainly seems so.

In a perfect world, would there be more graphic material in Hannibal? Sure, what about sex and nudity, or adult language? All of this content was in the Lecter films, so it stands to reason that in some ways, the television series is going to be a watered-down version.

Having said that, I really don't believe that the "Producer's Cut" versions of each episode were real, true, "uncensored versions" that NBC demanded air in compromised form. I still find it very difficult to believe that what is on the UK BD of Season One aired as is on a U.S. broadcast network with a TV-14 rating. Apparently, that was the case.

I also think that if these versions were the be-all-end-all versions that everybody wanted audiences to see, then they would have been the international broadcast versions and would have been doled out by Gaumont on the UK, French, German, etc. BD sets. It seems difficult to believe that a series which is produced and funded by an international consortium of companies is only presented in its "true" version in the United States, and only on video.

I find it more likely, that the "Producer's Cut" versions were dreamed up as a marketing point for the video release, and some markets got them, along with the extra material. If I recall, Australia might have been one such territory, although I haven't heard of anywhere else where the "Producer's Cut" versions were used. To be clear, I'm not saying they don't contain more graphic material, I'm just not clear on if that extras material us really being literally un-censored back into the program, or if some graphic material was simply added back in, to create another version that could be used as a bullet point on a sales sheet.

Movie Censorship are really the only site running around referring to the "Producer's Cut" versions as "uncut" and the regular episodes as "cut" or "censored" anyway.

[cropsy]

Hi does anyone know if the extras that are on the us release are on this one,as i cannot find any info anywhere.TIA.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by McCrutchy

This just dropped to £20.



There is none of this "Producer's Cut" nonsense for season two.

To be clear, Movie Censorship had reported that Bryan Fuller "made cuts" to the second season, but the quotation they posted uses a lot of ambiguous language:



So, has material been cut? Obviously, it has. But the question is: Why was it cut? Was it an artistic decision? From Fuller's quotation, it certainly seems so.

In a perfect world, would there be more graphic material in Hannibal? Sure, what about sex and nudity, or adult language? All of this content was in the Lecter films, so it stands to reason that in some ways, the television series is going to be a watered-down version.

Having said that, I really don't believe that the "Producer's Cut" versions of each episode were real, true, "uncensored versions" that NBC demanded air in compromised form. I still find it very difficult to believe that what is on the UK BD of Season One aired as is on a U.S. broadcast network with a TV-14 rating. Apparently, that was the case.

I also think that if these versions were the be-all-end-all versions that everybody wanted audiences to see, then they would have been the international broadcast versions and would have been doled out by Gaumont on the UK, French, German, etc. BD sets. It seems difficult to believe that a series which is produced and funded by an international consortium of companies is only presented in its "true" version in the United States, and only on video.

I find it more likely, that the "Producer's Cut" versions were dreamed up as a marketing point for the video release, and some markets got them, along with the extra material. If I recall, Australia might have been one such territory, although I haven't heard of anywhere else where the "Producer's Cut" versions were used. To be clear, I'm not saying they don't contain more graphic material, I'm just not clear on if that extras material us really being literally un-censored back into the program, or if some graphic material was simply added back in, to create another version that could be used as a bullet point on a sales sheet.

Movie Censorship are really the only site running around referring to the "Producer's Cut" versions as "uncut" and the regular episodes as "cut" or "censored" anyway.

Sorry for the late reply, I was on holiday at the time and only just spotted it.

According to the producer of the US BD on a posting on this site, there should be "Producer's Cut" but Lionsgate haven't listed them for whatever reason...

From what I've seen (I've only watched the first disc of S1 so far as I saw it when it aired) the versions on UK BD are definitely the same as the versions NBC uploaded to Hulu. So it's possible NBC aired cut versions and put the uncut versions up on Hulu, but I doubt it. The general consensus from Americans (even more liberal Americans) with regards to the rating, seems to be that NBC are massively taking the piss, and it's a lot more suited to a TV-MA rating...

And I'm not sure the producer's cut were dreamed up, I heard an interview with Bryan Fuller before the show aired (I think it might have been the day the Pilot aired) in which said NBC had generally only wanted minor cuts, and it was mostly subtle excesses they wanted rid of. The example he used (although I can't think where this is in the series) was that NBC had told him he could show exposed guts in a body, and guts spilled on the floor, but he couldn't show the guts rolling out of the body on to the floor.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by cropsy

Hi does anyone know if the extras that are on the us release are on this one,as i cannot find any info anywhere.TIA.

No extras have been submitted to the BBFC, and the episodes were submitted a while ago, so I'm guessing it's barebones. But it will likely be spread across four discs, so that's a positive.

[OceanBlue]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

No extras have been submitted to the BBFC, and the episodes were submitted a while ago, so I'm guessing it's barebones. But it will likely be spread across four discs, so that's a positive.

Was going to say the same thing. The BBFC added listings to their website a few weeks ago for each of the discs in the Hannibal: Season Two UK set (assuming it was for both the DVD and Blu-ray sets), and I haven't seen any listings added for extras/bonus features in the set. Will likely at some point double dip and get the US Blu-ray release of the second season, unless it gets released in Europe on Blu-ray (but only if a possible European Blu-ray release has the same extras as in the US Blu-ray set).

Was going to double dip and get the US Blu-ray release of the first season, for the extras not in the UK Blu-ray set.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by OceanBlue

Was going to double dip and get the US Blu-ray release of the first season, for the extras not in the UK Blu-ray set.

I was going to do the same thing, but life's too short and I could be spending my money on other stuff I haven't seen before...

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

No extras have been submitted to the BBFC, and the episodes were submitted a while ago, so I'm guessing it's barebones. But it will likely be spread across four discs, so that's a positive.

Man that just sucks. It does not even make sense that there is no extras since the release date is about the same as the US. I could understand with s1 because that came much earlier out in UK. So why no extras now when its coming out the same time. This is really an outrage imo

[mredman]

i can't be the only one that is pissed about this ?

I mean they can't use the excuse they had no time to put extras on when its released later than the US set and it has over 8 hours of extras including some commentaries. This is pretty messed up that there is absolutely NO EXTRAS on the UK set. What the hell were they thinking this is a big FU to the fans imo.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by mredman

i can't be the only one that is pissed about this ?

I mean they can't use the excuse they had no time to put extras on when its released later than the US set and it has over 8 hours of extras including some commentaries. This is pretty messed up that there is absolutely NO EXTRAS on the UK set. What the hell were they thinking this is a big FU to the fans imo.

My guess is Guamont aren't producing the extras, Lionsgate are, and Studiocanal can't be arsed to negotiate with them. I can't say I personally care, because I doubt the extras are substantial enough to bother me...

[duggie walker]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

My guess is Guamont aren't producing the extras, Lionsgate are, and Studiocanal can't be arsed to negotiate with them. I can't say I personally care, because I doubt the extras are substantial enough to bother me...

From the press release for US edition:

Before Hannibal Season 3 airs on NBC catch up with Hannibal: Season Two, which contains all 13 episodes on three-discs loaded with special features that include select episode audio commentaries with the cast and crew, a feature-length documentary on the making of episode 205, featurettes on the style of Hannibal Lector and the prosthetics and effects in the show, cast and crew reflections on Season 2, webisodes, deleted scenes and a gag reel.

Special Features:

Audio Commentaries on Select Episodes with Cast and Crew
This Is My Design Documentary
"The Style of a Killer" featurette
"Bodies of Lies" featurette
Hannibal Season 2: Killer Intentions
Post Mortem with Scott Thompson (Webisodes)
Deleted Scenes
Gag Reel

That's substantial enough to bother me. I'll be waiting until the US edition drops in price.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

From the press release for US edition:

Before Hannibal Season 3 airs on NBC catch up with Hannibal: Season Two, which contains all 13 episodes on three-discs loaded with special features that include select episode audio commentaries with the cast and crew, a feature-length documentary on the making of episode 205, featurettes on the style of Hannibal Lector and the prosthetics and effects in the show, cast and crew reflections on Season 2, webisodes, deleted scenes and a gag reel.

Special Features:

Audio Commentaries on Select Episodes with Cast and Crew
This Is My Design Documentary
"The Style of a Killer" featurette
"Bodies of Lies" featurette
Hannibal Season 2: Killer Intentions
Post Mortem with Scott Thompson (Webisodes)
Deleted Scenes
Gag Reel

That's substantial enough to bother me. I'll be waiting until the US edition drops in price.

It came from a press release, it's in their interests to hype it up. I'll wait for independent reviews.

[duggie walker]

Originally Posted by Buzz201

It came from a press release, it's in their interests to hype it up. I'll wait for independent reviews.

They're not "hyping" it up, they're just listing the extras.

[Buzz201]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

They're not "hyping" it up, they're just listing the extras.

I was referring to the use of "feature length", which is highly nondescript...

[mredman]

Originally Posted by duggie walker

They're not "hyping" it up, they're just listing the extras.

i agree we are truly getting screwed over. Damn i wish FOX or Warner would produce this show. Not to mention the US is region coded so we are really getting screwed over big time

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Originally Posted by Buzz201

I was referring to the use of "feature length", which is highly nondescript...

Feature length has a meaning. It means a motion picture which runs for longer than 40 minutes.