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Old 01-21-2008, 01:32 AM   #1
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Default A good reason NOT to boycott Universal/Paramount?

OK... I was thinking that perhaps any boycott of Paramount or Universal at the theater might actually be counterproductive in our efforts to convert them to Blu-ray. Hear me out...

Let's say Paramount has a HUGE hit this spring... something that earns $200 million + at the box office. And let's say Blu-ray continues to outsell HD DVD by a 6 or 7-to-1 margin. Paramount sees the box office performance of their hit. They project how much money they'll make when it's released on disc. The potential profits on a huge hit released on Blu-ray might be too great to be ignored. Thus it might speed up their plans for neutrality.

But if none of their films do that well, there isn't that potential windfall, and thus less incentive to switch to Blu. So they might hold out even longer.

I'll grant that this is largely academic. Paramount and Universal ultimately will go Blu before Christmas. But prompting them to switch sooner rather than later would be to everyone's benefit.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:36 AM   #2
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OK... I was thinking that perhaps any boycott of Paramount or Universal at the theater might actually be counterproductive in our efforts to convert them to Blu-ray. Hear me out...

Let's say Paramount has a HUGE hit this spring... something that earns $200 million + at the box office. And let's say Blu-ray continues to outsell HD DVD by a 6 or 7-to-1 margin. Paramount sees the box office performance of their hit. They project how much money they'll make when it's released on disc. The potential profits on a huge hit released on Blu-ray might be too great to be ignored. Thus it might speed up their plans for neutrality.

But if none of their films do that well, there isn't that potential windfall, and thus less incentive to switch to Blu. So they might hold out even longer.

I'll grant that this is largely academic. Paramount and Universal ultimately will go Blu before Christmas. But prompting them to switch sooner rather than later would be to everyone's benefit.
I disagree with you 100%. They might be more quickly to release titles on blu if the movie does less than expected to try to recoup some earning that where never made at the box office plus it will show them what we think of they're stupid policy.

I will boycott them until they are blu, end of discussion.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:38 AM   #3
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I will boycott them until they are blu, end of discussion.
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:39 AM   #4
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I disagree with you 100%. They might be more quickly to release titles on blu if the movie does less than expected to try to recoup some earning that where never made at the box office plus it will show them what we think of they're stupid policy.

I will boycott them until they are blu, end of discussion.
Same here, I'm not interested in giving them any added revenues until they are willing to produce their movies on the format that I use. Until then, the company can kiss my money good-bye
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:42 AM   #5
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since I dont really go to the movies often, and I dont buy DVDs, I guess boycott it is.

But if its on cable, im watching it damn it!
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:43 AM   #6
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yeah....I really only want to watch movies in high def...

so basically, if it's not Blu...I refuse to buy it..
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:49 AM   #7
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Old 01-21-2008, 01:50 AM   #8
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Your boycott will amount to nothing as you have big movies from both studios coming out this summer
The New Indiana Jones Movie will gross at least 200 mil minimum
Iron Man another 200 mill minimum
so you can boycott if you want but it wont even be a blip on the radar stop buying and renting there movies and then you will get there attention

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Old 01-21-2008, 02:03 AM   #9
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since I dont really go to the movies often, and I dont buy DVDs, I guess boycott it is.

But if its on cable, im watching it damn it!

I'm with you on that.

I stopped buying DVDs last year, Crash being my last one. Now It's only BD or cable for me. So if it doesn't come out on BD it isn't paid for by me.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:12 AM   #10
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The answer you all are seeking is... to keep supporting Blu-ray aggressively with purchases from the supporting studios. Yes, we are all dumbfounded by the decisions from Universal and Paramount to remain red. But the only way to get these studios to go Blu is to keep pushing the Blu vs. HD-DVD margins even further and further apart with our wallets. It is only a matter of time before the top executives at these studios will pull the Home Entertainment leadership in their offices and ask them WTF they are doing. Additionally, stock holders will begin to lose confidence in the studios top leadership and that will trickle down to the Home Entertainment leadership. As Blu momentum continues to grow, the studio leadership WILL FEEL THE PRESSURE!

For those who boycott any Paramount or Universal product, that is your choice and so be it. But remember, in today's entertainment world a top selling title on DVD can easily overshadow any Box Office receipts. If any logical studio executive wants to see "the green" they know "the future is blu".
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:15 AM   #11
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:20 AM   #12
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+10 Will boycott both till release in BD.....

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Old 01-21-2008, 02:22 AM   #13
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Im not boycotting anyone, sorry. Im a movie *****, if you film it and I like it, I will buy it.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:24 AM   #14
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Before this HD war, how many of us really cared which studio released movies? We, the foot soldiers of the war, cared only because we did not want to attend a movie released by a studio exclusive to the other side. How many of the new Blu adopters want to know which studio released what movie? ...and there are a whole lot more of those folks that just want to go watch a good flick!

So, will we be able to make a dent if we don't watch the movie?
(I won't - I'm with Mystik... but my queries above are just being pragmatic).

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Old 01-21-2008, 02:39 AM   #15
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Sorry gotta definitely see Indy 4.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:42 AM   #16
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I disagree with you 100%. They might be more quickly to release titles on blu if the movie does less than expected to try to recoup some earning that where never made at the box office plus it will show them what we think of they're stupid policy.

I will boycott them until they are blu, end of discussion.
On a related note, I'm going to be boycotting all movies on Blu-Ray that don't come out at IMAX at the theatre stage.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:43 AM   #17
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There are people out there that go on to live a great and full-filling life with out Paramount and Universal.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:56 AM   #18
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Both studios are going to be releasing on Blu soon enough. The only thing they care about is money and there is money to be made. I sure wouldn't have the willpower to not go see Indy or Star Trek.
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Old 01-21-2008, 02:58 AM   #19
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Both studios are going to be releasing on Blu soon enough. The only thing they care about is money and there is money to be made. I sure wouldn't have the willpower to not go see Indy or Star Trek.
Hulk, Iron Man, Hellboy, HELL NO. Im not missing them
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Old 01-21-2008, 04:19 AM   #20
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Ill continue to only buy paramount movies that are leftover from them being blu, just to show them that they will sell. I dont buy DVDs much more anyway.
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