Like him or hate him, The Critical Drinker nails it about remakes/sequels/reboots...

[s2mikey]

Cant argue with any of this. I believe this is a solid video on many of the issues affecting the remake/reboot/sequel thing we are entrenched in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcMT...ature=youtu.be

[CyberpunkCentral]

Ah, yes. The Critical Drinker. I follow him.

[mwynn]

Subjective there is no right answer. I will say it again, and this site proves it. People do not want original content.

[spaceball-one]

Yea, mikey liking this guy makes a lot of sense.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by spaceball-one

Yea, mikey liking this guy makes a lot of sense.

Could it be this?

[Batmon77]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Subjective there is no right answer. I will say it again, and this site proves it. People do not want original content.

[Gacivory]

Who?

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Who?

[NI-Gunner]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Subjective there is no right answer. I will say it again, and this site proves it. People do not want original content.

Feel like that's an oversimplification of the issue. It's a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy.

The only movies that get a lot of money and resources pumped into them are the already established IP's because Hollywood's interested in mitigating as much risk as possible, while also trying to ensure it makes crazy money, plays well in China etc, which ironically leads to a creativity stifling environment where everything is homogenous and paint by numbers as a result.

Then even the good original movies/ideas that somehow do sneak through are lower budget, inferior versions of what they COULD have been with more resources, more money, better actors, writers, directors involved etc. These movies often come out without any fanfare and almost have to be "discovered" on whatever streamer they're on.

There's only really two solutions.

Either people have to stop going to see the sequels/reboots/adaptations they are naturally interested in because they like the originals, IP, franchises that spawned them in the first place. Or Hollywood have to accept that EVERY movie is a risk so they might as well do stuff that's new with the acceptance that if it doesn't do well financially, at least it's 'content' for their streaming platform.

[The Debts]

Oh yeah, the guy who was being an insufferable misogynist in his Midsommar review. Screw him.

Oh and I'm going to be absolutely blunt here: Channels like him are nothing more than outrage factories designed to make as much money as possible over the slightest changes to anything with brand recognition. I can't friggin stand this s**t any longer and I hope to God we mature and get away from things like this instead of wallowing in perpetual misery.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by NI-Gunner

Feel like that's an oversimplification of the issue. It's a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy.

The only movies that get a lot of money and resources pumped into them are the already established IP's because Hollywood's interested in mitigating as much risk as possible, which ironically leads to a creativity stifling environment where everything is homogenous and paint by numbers as a result.

Then the original movies/ideas that somehow do sneak through are lower budget, inferior versions of what they COULD have been with more resources, more money, better actors, writers, directors involved etc. These movies often come out without any fanfare and almost have to be "discovered".

There's only really two solutions.

Either people have to stop going to see the sequels/reboots/adaptations they are naturally interested in because they like the originals, IP, franchises that spawned them in the first place. Or Hollywood have to accept that EVERY movie is a risk so they might as well do stuff that's new with the acceptance that if it doesn't do well financially, at least it's 'content' for their streaming platform.

Yes it is oversimplification. But it is nothing new. This has been going on for over 40 years.

People have the power to change and choose to do nothing except complain. Then when the original content comes down, they ignore it. Then go back to complaining.

[mwynn]

Originally Posted by The Debts

Oh yeah, the guy who was being an insufferable misogynist in his Midsommar review. Screw him.

Oh and I'm going to be absolutely blunt here: Channels like him are nothing more than outrage facroties designed to make as much money as possible over the slightest changes to anything with brand recognition. I can't friggin stand this s**t any longer and I hope to God we mature and get away from things like this instead of wallowing in perpetual misery.

Yes instead of attacking those things, he could be giving power to the things he wants to see. That would not get clicks and revenue though.

[The Debts]

Originally Posted by mwynn

Yes instead of attacking those things, he could be giving power to the things he wants to see. That would not get clicks and revenue though.

Misery loves company, evidently. Gotta chase those trends instead of shining a light on something that maybe might open your mind to newer ideas or experiences!

[s2mikey]

Originally Posted by NI-Gunner

Feel like that's an oversimplification of the issue. It's a bit of self-fulfilling prophecy.

The only movies that get a lot of money and resources pumped into them are the already established IP's because Hollywood's interested in mitigating as much risk as possible, while also trying to ensure it makes crazy money, plays well in China etc, which ironically leads to a creativity stifling environment where everything is homogenous and paint by numbers as a result.

Then even the good original movies/ideas that somehow do sneak through are lower budget, inferior versions of what they COULD have been with more resources, more money, better actors, writers, directors involved etc. These movies often come out without any fanfare and almost have to be "discovered" on whatever streamer they're on.

There's only really two solutions.

Either people have to stop going to see the sequels/reboots/adaptations they are naturally interested in because they like the originals, IP, franchises that spawned them in the first place. Or Hollywood have to accept that EVERY movie is a risk so they might as well do stuff that's new with the acceptance that if it doesn't do well financially, at least it's 'content' for their streaming platform.

Actually - ONE solution(split in two possibilities) actually takes care of the problems entirely:

If you do a remake or reboot: just stick to the original story & characters as much as possible. Dont muck everything up for stupid reasons. Dont make wholesale/massive changes and expect it to go well. Do it RIGHT.

If you do a sequel: Keep beloved, existing characters as they were. No need to muck them up. Stick to what made the previous film entries so endearing & universally loved in the first place. Like Cameron did with Aliens - he took what was great about the first one and added to it. Something like that. Do it RIGHT.

The video does sort of state all of this and we have seen successful sequels or add-ons in our time. It CAN be done if done RIGHT. Thats kind of the whole point. While I hardly agree with everything the Critical Drinker says, how can anyone argue that his "5 steps" list isnt valid? It plays out in front of our movie-going eyes all the time. The guy makes some solid points.

[Fenway55]

He has a lot of legit points, and it is hilarious how unwittingly some in here prove him right by attacking him instead of anything he said.

[Levon]

He brings up interesting points and can be quite insightful, at times. However he falls into the bawbag category along with yon rocket Count Dankula.

[CreasyBear]

Originally Posted by The Debts

Oh yeah, the guy who was being an insufferable misogynist in his Midsommar review. Screw him.

Oh and I'm going to be absolutely blunt here: Channels like him are nothing more than outrage facroties designed to make as much money as possible over the slightest changes to anything with brand recognition. I can't friggin stand this s**t any longer and I hope to God we mature and get away from things like this instead of wallowing in perpetual misery.

Preach.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Who?

Dude, you stole my line.

Originally Posted by The Debts

Oh yeah, the guy who was being an insufferable misogynist in his Midsommar review. Screw him.

Oh and I'm going to be absolutely blunt here: Channels like him are nothing more than outrage facroties designed to make as much money as possible over the slightest changes to anything with brand recognition. I can't friggin stand this s**t any longer and I hope to God we mature and get away from things like this instead of wallowing in perpetual misery.

People not letting a variety of YouTube morons tell them how to think & feel would be a start.

[dallywhitty]

I tried watching one of his videos once, but his voice got on my tits. From what I can tell, he's another of these YouTubers who constantly complains about big IPs, but hardly ever gives the time of day to lesser-known films he might actually enjoy.

[Foggy]

A big thing that would solve this problem is if these grown ass adults stopped getting so emotional attached to commercial properties from when they were kids and grew up a little, potentially watching something more tailored to their age.