Question about turntable sound from a receiver

[fighthefutureofhd]

I have a question regarding turntable sound from a receiver. I currently have Onkyo TX-NR575 receiver and a Denon DP-300F turntable. The turntable is 12 years old and the receiver is 6 years old. I currently have to have the sound cranked at 45-50 in order to hear the music. Is there anything I can do to make the sound better and at lower volume? It hasn't really bothered me that much, but now that I've got the green marble vinyl of R.E.M.'s UP, I would like to work on this. My speaker set up is a 7 speaker Sonance system with true speakers in the ceiling. I will take and post it shortly. Thanks in advance for any help.

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I have a question regarding turntable sound from a receiver. I currently have Onkyo TX-NR575 receiver and a Denon DP-300F turntable. The turntable is 12 years old and the receiver is 6 years old. I currently have to have the sound cranked at 45-50 in order to hear the music. Is there anything I can do to make the sound better and at lower volume? It hasn't really bothered me that much, but now that I've got the green marble vinyl of R.E.M.'s UP, I would like to work on this. My speaker set up is a 7 speaker Sonance system with true speakers in the ceiling. I will take and post it shortly. Thanks in advance for any help.

I know this may be a stupid question, but you do you have the pre-amp on the record player turned off?

[fighthefutureofhd]

I believe I do. I'd have to check and see to be sure.

[Doc Samson]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I believe I do. I'd have to check and see to be sure.

If the pre-amp is off, that would cause the signal to your speakers to sound low. Turn the pre-amp on the turntable on and it should be significantly louder.

Let me know if that works!

[fighthefutureofhd]

Ok. I will try that. It won't be until tomorrow evening, as I have a Liz Phair concert tonight. Currently, I have the pre-amp off and and running things through the phono amp/section on my receiver. I will see what I need to do to switch it back to the CD selection on my receiver. I believe that is how the receiver handles the signal when the pre-amp is on. I will check tomorrow to be sure. Thanks for the help so far.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I had some time tonight to try this out. When I had the preamp on the turntable turned to the on position, it sounded like the vinyl was being scratched and I couldn't really hear the music. It was sort of static sounding, too. I think I have to hook things back up on the receiver in the right area to use the preamp on my turntable. I just don't remember how. I hope this all makes sense.

[deatheats]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

I had some time tonight to try this out. When I had the preamp on the turntable turned to the on position, it sounded like the vinyl was being scratched and I couldn't really hear the music. It was sort of static sounding, too. I think I have to hook things back up on the receiver in the right area to use the preamp on my turntable. I just don't remember how. I hope this all makes sense.

You just have to run the rca cables from the turntable to an input other than phono, like CD or PC.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Ok. I'll see if I can do that. Thanks. Me mind isn't what it used to be.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

Ok. I'll see if I can do that. Thanks. Me mind isn't what it used to be.

The Equalizer switch is at the rear of the unit under the platter, you'd need to remove the turntable sheet and spin the platter to gain access to it. If you want to use the AVR's amp, you set it to OFF, and you need to select an input other than PHONO.

If you want to set it to ON, you can use the PHONO input, as you're using the Denon's pre-amp. Don't forget the GROUND.

It's worth switching to Stereo mode with your Onkyo, audio can be lower than surrounds when in Stereo mode, but it might be worth checking the stylus.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I think it may be time for a new stylus. I tried playing my green marble vinyl of R.E.M.'s up using the built-in preamp on the turntable, but it just sounded worse. Soft, muddy, and hard to hear. I have switched it back to using the preamp on my receiver and it is better, but I'm still having issues with the sound having to be turned up louder to hear things.

However, I have it hooked into the phono input. I think when I use the turntable's preamp and run it through the phono input on the receiver it gets all muffled and staticky. So, I usually have to run it through the CD input. If I want to use the preamp on the receiver, I have to run it through the phono input I will test these out tonight and report back. However, I have to be careful when doing so as the more I move the receiver the HDMI cord for the 4K player keeps cutting out. And I end up losing picture and sound. Tomorrow is movie night so I can't have the 4K player video signal going out on me.

[fighthefutureofhd]

Originally Posted by chip75

The Equalizer switch is at the rear of the unit under the platter, you'd need to remove the turntable sheet and spin the platter to gain access to it. If you want to use the AVR's amp, you set it to OFF, and you need to select an input other than PHONO.

If you want to set it to ON, you can use the PHONO input, as you're using the Denon's pre-amp. Don't forget the GROUND.

It's worth switching to Stereo mode with your Onkyo, audio can be lower than surrounds when in Stereo mode, but it might be worth checking the stylus.

Well, that was an abject failure. The turntable can only be hooked up to the phono input when using the preamp on the receiver. I tried every other input and nothing worked. In addition to that, the record I played now was sounding harsh and so bass-heavy that it hurt to listen to it. I got such a splitting headache I thought I might puke. I think it is time for a new stylus or even a new turntable. The stylus is one of those standard Denon ones. It's lasted 7 years and serves me well, but the sound it's sending back isn't top-of-the-line.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by fighthefutureofhd

Well, that was an abject failure. The turntable can only be hooked up to the phono input when using the preamp on the receiver. I tried every other input and nothing worked.

When you tried CD or another input, the Denon's EQUALIZER switch was turned OFF?

If you did, I would try another stylus, and inspect your current one, if you see two grooves either side of the tip it's due a change (the standard one isny great). Also if it's not too much of a faff make sure you haven't got any funky treble settings with your AVR.

[fighthefutureofhd]

I'm pretty certain the equalizer switch was turned off, but I can double-check. I can also check for any funky treble settings with my AVR. I just don't know how to. Sorry. As for the stylus, I think I just going to get a new one. Especially if the two things above don't fix the problem. Thanks for all the help.

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