Das Boot on UHD? - Blu-ray Forum

ack_bak · 02-18-2019, 01:20 PM

Anyone know if there are plans to release Das Boot in UHD? I just watched the BD last night and forgot how incredible this movie is. Easily my favorite submarine movie of all time.

ROSS.T.G. · 02-18-2019, 01:26 PM

Argh. Why not create a new thread asking what to make for dinner.

LexInHD · 02-18-2019, 01:32 PM

None that I am aware of. The current focus is on the TV series Das Boot. The issue with Das Boot is that it requires a comprehensive restoration to do a UHD-BD release that people would want to buy. They can scan/clean-up the original film and release it, but it wouldn't be the product that people want to buy, because it wouldn't be doing the work or the format justice. When the Director's Cut - the version considered to be the definitive one - was made, it was something akin to an EE of LOTR, with added footage and improved digital VFX and audio to make it worthy of screening in a cinema and releasing on DVD. All of that would have to be re-done for a UHD-BD release of the Director's Cut. Then you've also got the "Uncut Edition", basically the TV mini-series edit, which people might also want to see on UHD-BD and that's nearly 300 minutes. I think it's possible that we might get a new DC restoration, but if it's happening, it's under the radar at the moment.

KazzPetrelli · 02-18-2019, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Argh. Why not create a new thread asking what to make for dinner.

LMAO!

ack_bak · 02-18-2019, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ROSS.T.G.

Argh. Why not create a new thread asking what to make for dinner.

Thanks that will be my next thread topic.. Italian or Chinese?

ack_bak · 02-18-2019, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LexInHD

None that I am aware of. The current focus is on the TV series Das Boot. The issue with Das Boot is that it requires a comprehensive restoration to do a UHD-BD release that people would want to buy. They can scan/clean-up the original film and release it, but it wouldn't be the product that people want to buy, because it wouldn't be doing the work or the format justice. When the Director's Cut - the version considered to be the definitive one - was made, it was something akin to an EE of LOTR, with added footage and improved digital VFX and audio to make it worthy of screening in a cinema and releasing on DVD. All of that would have to be re-done for a UHD-BD release of the Director's Cut. Then you've also got the "Uncut Edition", basically the TV mini-series edit, which people might also want to see on UHD-BD and that's nearly 300 minutes. I think it's possible that we might get a new DC restoration, but if it's happening, it's under the radar at the moment.

Thanks, I really hope they invest in this movie and specially the DC cut. It won a lot of awards, and brought some attention to the German film industry.

ROSS.T.G. · 02-18-2019, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ack_bak

Thanks that will be my next thread topic.. Italian or Chinese?

Italian, MSG plugs me up.

brainofj72 · 02-18-2019, 04:00 PM

Never seen this. I’d love to, but I’m still waiting for a US-friendly release of the miniseries version. Or I guess I could finally cave and buy a region-free player.

UHD would be ideal, of course.

ack_bak · 02-18-2019, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

Never seen this. I’d love to, but I’m still waiting for a US-friendly release of the miniseries version. Or I guess I could finally cave and buy a region-free player.

UHD would be ideal, of course.

You really should see it. I don't have a region free Blu Ray player and have no issues. This should play:
https://www.target.com/p/das-boot-di...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

brainofj72 · 02-18-2019, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ack_bak

You really should see it. I don't have a region free Blu Ray player and have no issues. This should play:
https://www.target.com/p/das-boot-di...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

That’s just the director’s cut, not the miniseries version.

ack_bak · 02-18-2019, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by brainofj72

That’s just the director’s cut, not the miniseries version.

Ah gotcha I thought you meant you had never seen the Das Boot movie. Yeah I would love the mini series too but don't have a region free player.

Dubstar · 02-18-2019, 10:04 PM

I"m just trying to imagine how the 8-channel (SDDS) mix would sound remixed to Atmos [mmmmmm....] "das ist gut"

Frank169 · 02-21-2019, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by LexInHD

When the Director's Cut - the version considered to be the definitive one - was made, it was something akin to an EE of LOTR, with added footage and improved digital VFX and audio to make it worthy of screening in a cinema and releasing on DVD.

Director Wolfgang Petersen left Das Boot pretty much untouched like Spielberg did with 1941 (i.e. no digital VFX) but improved the audio.

IMHO, the "definitive one" remains the mini-TV series which - much to my positive surprise - had been remastered and optimized for (German) Blu-ray release in 2015 (and has recently been reissued / repacked). However, the mini-series Blu-ray release is 'chaptered' in episodes the way it was broadcasted in the 1980's (i.e. no seamless branched version).

Regarding UHD potential I remain sceptical. All the photography was done in the real, claustrophobic and tight environment of a closed replica of a German submarine (visited the set repeatedly, it's more claustrophobic than the footage suggests!) limiting the size of cameras you could bring in.

What I try to say: I don't know if there's really that much more resolution you could get from the original negatives to justify a UHD treatment.

Doctorossi · 02-21-2019, 03:24 PM

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I don't know if there's really that much more resolution you could get from the original negatives to justify a UHD treatment.

Thankfully, you don't need additional spatial resolution to justify an UHD release; there are plenty of other benefits that could make Das Boot look spectacular in the format.

Incidentally, the announcement of such a disc would make me explode with glee.

Frank169 · 03-04-2019, 10:35 AM

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Thankfully, you don't need additional spatial resolution to justify an UHD release; there are plenty of other benefits that could make Das Boot look spectacular in the format.

Would you care to elaborate?

As they didn't have LED bulbs aboard German submarines in WW II and since most of the exterior footage was shot under 'sunless' conditions, I don't believe HDR would add a lot here.

Doctorossi · 03-04-2019, 01:44 PM

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Would you care to elaborate?

As they didn't have LED bulbs aboard German submarines in WW II and since most of the exterior footage was shot under 'sunless' conditions, I don't believe HDR would add a lot here.

I'm not sure what LED bulbs have to do with anything.

Just like you don't need lots of additional spatial resolution to get benefits from UHD, you don't need extreme highlight peaks to get benefits from HDR.

And you also have WCG and more efficient compression using higher bandwidth and greater storage capacity.

Geoff D · 03-04-2019, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Frank169

Would you care to elaborate?

As they didn't have LED bulbs aboard German submarines in WW II and since most of the exterior footage was shot under 'sunless' conditions, I don't believe HDR would add a lot here.

Dynamic range isn't just about bright burning highlights, it really isn't. Negative film has a very wide dynamic range so even under the conditions for which Das Boot was shot I fully expect that an HDR pass could render out as yet unseen details.

SHOCKWAVE6464 · 03-09-2019, 07:58 PM

Yes please. And I also want the Original Uncut Version in the same package.

Mahatma · 08-16-2020, 10:23 PM

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Argh. Why not create a new thread asking what to make for dinner.

dannycj · 08-31-2020, 02:01 PM

Next year will be Das Boots 40 year anniversary. Perfect time for a 4K release.

02-18-2019, 01:20 PM	#1
ack_bak Power Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray collection:181	Das Boot on UHD? Anyone know if there are plans to release Das Boot in UHD? I just watched the BD last night and forgot how incredible this movie is. Easily my favorite submarine movie of all time.

02-18-2019, 01:32 PM	#3
LexInHD Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Oct 2010 Blu-ray collection:226	None that I am aware of. The current focus is on the TV series Das Boot. The issue with Das Boot is that it requires a comprehensive restoration to do a UHD-BD release that people would want to buy. They can scan/clean-up the original film and release it, but it wouldn't be the product that people want to buy, because it wouldn't be doing the work or the format justice. When the Director's Cut - the version considered to be the definitive one - was made, it was something akin to an EE of LOTR, with added footage and improved digital VFX and audio to make it worthy of screening in a cinema and releasing on DVD. All of that would have to be re-done for a UHD-BD release of the Director's Cut. Then you've also got the "Uncut Edition", basically the TV mini-series edit, which people might also want to see on UHD-BD and that's nearly 300 minutes. I think it's possible that we might get a new DC restoration, but if it's happening, it's under the radar at the moment. Last edited by LexInHD; 02-18-2019 at 01:38 PM.

02-18-2019, 01:26 PM	#2
ROSS.T.G. Blu-ray Champion Member since:Jan 2010 Location:Ontario, Canada 4K collection:393 Blu-ray collection:1549 Blu-ray reviews:16	Argh. Why not create a new thread asking what to make for dinner.

02-18-2019, 04:00 PM	#8
brainofj72 Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Dec 2009 Location:USA 4K collection:1029 Blu-ray collection:3603 DVD collection:817 Digital collection:149 iTunes collection:139 Trading Score:152	Never seen this. I’d love to, but I’m still waiting for a US-friendly release of the miniseries version. Or I guess I could finally cave and buy a region-free player. UHD would be ideal, of course.

02-18-2019, 10:04 PM	#12
Dubstar Blu-ray Prince Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:down at Fraggle Rock Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:201 Blu-ray collection:1953 DVD collection:304 MA collection:4 Digital collection:33 Trading Score:29	I"m just trying to imagine how the 8-channel (SDDS) mix would sound remixed to Atmos [mmmmmm....] "das ist gut"

03-09-2019, 07:58 PM	#18
SHOCKWAVE6464 Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2012 4K collection:306 Blu-ray collection:1181 DVD collection:152 Digital collection:259 iTunes collection:8	Yes please. And I also want the Original Uncut Version in the same package.

08-31-2020, 02:01 PM	#20
dannycj Senior Member Member since:Jul 2008 4K collection:193 Blu-ray collection:828 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18	Next year will be Das Boots 40 year anniversary. Perfect time for a 4K release.

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