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Old 01-22-2008, 09:02 PM   #1
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This is the 2nd article in just a few days I've found in Tom's Hardware's "news" section favoring RED. The previous article was an opinion piece that hardly qualifies as news. I reckon it's time to inject some truth into their reporting like showing sales figures, market share, and growth along side the opinion and sympathy pieces.

I'll be sending my feedback directly to their editors.

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Old 01-22-2008, 09:18 PM   #2
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I said it once..ill say it again, toms has always been bias and stupid. I wouldn't expect anything different.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:24 PM   #3
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And here's the previous article. Written by the same guy, Mark Raby.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:26 PM   #4
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Yeah I kind of thought there was a red preference there...not sure if it's the whole site, or just that one guy.

I think at this point there's not much they can do but make themselves look like fools, and objects of hate for any who listen to them.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:27 PM   #5
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biased tsk tsk
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:34 PM   #6
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This is the 2nd article in just a few days I've found in Tom's Hardware's "news" section favoring RED. The previous article was an opinion piece that hardly qualifies as news. I reckon it's time to inject some truth into their reporting like showing sales figures, market share, and growth along side the opinion and sympathy pieces.

I'll be sending my feedback directly to their editors.
Perhaps if those clowns signing the petition spent their time buying HD DVDs instead of signing petitions, the red camp wouldn't be in this mess.

Actually, we all know that they would still be in this mess. For every delusion fanboi that signed that petition, there are 100 unsuspecting people who were conned into buying an HD DVD player.

Let them sign their stupid petition, but sham eon Tom's hardware for not injecting a word or true about how convincingly Blu is winning.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:37 PM   #7
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I would love to reply to this with something like

"oh and for the first time in history, an online petition consisting of dozens of people signing it multiple times will actually make a difference to a company that was totally expecting this kind of reaction and already knows that changing face so soon would look bad and destroy both formats. dumbasses"

Just ignore them. Only people on pro HD DVD sites are reporting this and it will make literally no difference whatsoever.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:54 PM   #8
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Does anyone think Warner is going to bat an eyelash at 13,500 signature when they have the largest slice of a $42 billion market worldwide? They have probably sold that many PS3's alone in the last week or so.
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Old 01-22-2008, 09:57 PM   #9
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Does anyone think Warner is going to bat an eyelash at 13,500 signature when they have the largest slice of a $42 billion market worldwide? They have probably sold that many PS3's alone in the last week or so.
I didn't see the petition as a threat to Blu nor Tom's slant. I do believe people read that site and take their advice because their tech work is pretty on point. I'd hate for honest hardworking people to get duped by this guy trying to save face for supporting RED in the past.

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Old 01-22-2008, 09:58 PM   #10
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First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:03 PM   #11
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They just want to believe that HD DVD is better when it's not and they want to prolong this format war with their spin.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:09 PM   #12
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First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.
It is a very popular tech site that has been around for a very long time. In the beginning it was a great resource for reviews, tech docs, benchmarks, and news. But at the beginning of this century the site took a turn for the worst. His bias towards companies in tech wars like AMD vs Intel and Nvidia vs ATI vs 3dfx became quite apparent. So much so that you would constantly find misinformation, tweaks to benchmarks to fit his propaganda, and flat out lies sometimes. His news section turned into a rumor hodge podge much akin to the tech site TheInquirer. The difference is that theinq states they are a rumor site, Toms posts rumors as facts.

But yes, he isn't that important anymore as 8 years of crap has hurt his credibility but you'll find his site linked as the source of many news articles still.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:09 PM   #13
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First of all who is Tom's Hardware? Second who cares if he isn't that important anyways.
Just a site where a ton of the tech community frequent for news, reviews on everything consumer tech.

Second, I cared enough to post about it.

From their press kit:

"Today, Bestofmedia Group provides unbiased product reviews, news, articles, price comparisons and similar information on high technology, consumer electronics and gaming. It is one of the top three online media publishing companies for technology in the world with over 19.8 million readers and operations in the United States, Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Sweden, Taiwan and China."

19.8 million people out there think what these guys say is important.

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Old 01-22-2008, 10:26 PM   #14
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Tom's glory days are long gone. People in the PC hardware community no longer take Tom's Hardware seriously. They have been shown to be incorrect and downright stupid on many occasions.

However....The PC hardware community is pro HD-DVD in general...
If you spend a few hours at hardforum.com and you'll see that. Why?

Because the PC hardware community is comprised of people who download software illegally, rip and copy movies.
They are under the assumption that since HD-DVD is region free by design and has more "laxed" encryption measures, it will be the best option for them to pirate movies.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:30 PM   #15
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Just a site where a ton of the tech community frequent for news, reviews on everything consumer tech.

Second, I cared enough to post about it.

From their press kit:

"Today, Bestofmedia Group provides unbiased product reviews, news, articles, price comparisons and similar information on high technology, consumer electronics and gaming. It is one of the top three online media publishing companies for technology in the world with over 19.8 million readers and operations in the United States, Germany, France, Italy, the United Kingdom, Russia, Poland, Hungary, Turkey, Sweden, Taiwan and China."

19.8 million people out there think what these guys say is important.

I don't frequent their site but have read a few good articles from there when doing searches on a web.

It's too bad with all their experience in high-tech gadgetry the reporting of an online petition is seen as "news worthy". Mark Raby is confusing his HD-DVD-fandom with actual information that could be considered "useful" to the site's regular readers.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:32 PM   #16
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Man so just reporting a news item about HD DVD labels you as biased now? jeez.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:40 PM   #17
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Man so just reporting a news item about HD DVD labels you as biased now? jeez.
Did you even read the article?

Allow me to quote:
"HD DVD has many things going for it. The players are less bulky and less expensive. It is also not as costly for studios to publish their films on HD DVD. Blu-ray is the much more expensive format."

"The technology often is considered to be superior and cheaper on the HD DVD side, but Blu-ray just happens to have the PS3 factor. In my opinion, that is really the only thing it has on its side right now, and if that fizzles, we're looking at a completely new ball game."

"The battle is still too close to call at this time. My advice: If you aren't part of the early-adopter crowd and you don't want to run the risk of investing into a failing format, remain patient."

This is news? He published these things after the Warner move. No he's not biased. He just accidently failed to mention that Blu has storage and bitrate headroom for future applications and that the HD DVD had no CE support but Toshiba and 30% of the major studio support.
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Did you even read the article?

Allow me to quote:
"HD DVD has many things going for it. The players are less bulky and less expensive. It is also not as costly for studios to publish their films on HD DVD. Blu-ray is the much more expensive format."

"The technology often is considered to be superior and cheaper on the HD DVD side, but Blu-ray just happens to have the PS3 factor. In my opinion, that is really the only thing it has on its side right now, and if that fizzles, we're looking at a completely new ball game."

"The battle is still too close to call at this time. My advice: If you aren't part of the early-adopter crowd and you don't want to run the risk of investing into a failing format, remain patient."

This is news? He published these things after the Warner move. No he's not biased. He just accidently failed to mention that Blu has storage and bitrate headroom for future applications and that the HD DVD had no CE support but Toshiba and 30% of the major studio support.
Ah, i skimmed through the article and didnt read the whole thing. I stand corrected. Carry on.
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Old 01-22-2008, 10:42 PM   #19
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I'm not sure how "pro" HD DVD the most recent article is. Honestly, the headline "thousands sign petition to save HD DVD" implies straight away that HD DVD needs saving, and the article follows up the fanboy quote ("consumers have not chosen Blu-ray") with the fact that many people in the industry think the war is over, and that Blu-ray outsold HD DVD 6:1 in last weeks numbers.

All in all, I doubt too many people will be impressed by HD DVD's chances if they read this article.
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Old 01-23-2008, 12:23 AM   #20
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Yeah i posted about them a few times, they are pro red, oh well. Hopefully they will go down with the ship like HDDVD, they have been way being the power ball when it comes to reviews lately anyways.
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