Generally, how are Paramount & Universal transfer wise? - Blu-ray Forum

CampbellzSoup · 02-21-2008, 02:13 PM

For HD DVD owners, were their releases good quality or kind of shady like FOXes

DepTii · 02-21-2008, 02:15 PM

Well, Paramount has already released titles on Blu before... I hear Shooter has some really great picture quality. I heard somewhere that Universal is going to have to redo all of their movies, as they can't use the same transfers that they did with HD DVD, but I'm not totally sure. I hope it is true and they can do some higher bitrate encodes, plus lossless audio of course.

Blu n Gold · 02-21-2008, 02:18 PM

A lot of Fox transfers are top notch. Warner has many more shotty transfers. If they are using VC-1, the port would probably look like garbage. There is a lot of potential, but they would have to do a new encode. HD DVD ports make the elderly cry.

tiger roach · 02-21-2008, 02:18 PM

The reports I have seen on Universal haven't been very enthusiastic. I am glad to hear they will have to do new transfers for Blu, hopefully they will get them right this time.

Giyomu · 02-21-2008, 02:23 PM

universal's pretty good!! PQ talking
king kong looks fabulous,
the bourne are also nice
doom and serenity are also spectacular

now they do need to work on lossless audio

BStecke · 02-21-2008, 02:33 PM

The Paramount titles I have (Black Snake Moan, Disturbia, Shooter, Coming To America, and Untouchables) are all pretty good IMO. Right before they went HD DVD exclusive they were starting to do seperate transfers for HD DVD and Blu-ray (which made their switch even more odd). Shooter caught some flack because it's an MPEG2 title, but it looks pretty damn good to me.

I can't speak on Universal's quality, but generally their titles are some of the lower-ranked titles for reviews.

Johk · 02-21-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DepTii

I heard somewhere that Universal is going to have to redo all of their movies, as they can't use the same transfers that they did with HD DVD, but I'm not totally sure. I hope it is true and they can do some higher bitrate encodes, plus lossless audio of course.

I don't see why they couldn't use the same video and audio encodes but it's a sure thing that they need to re-author the disc. So I'm not sure that we'll get new encodes (and to re do a new encode will surely cost money so you can bet that unless there is no other way, they'll stick with what they already have...)

But I'm not an expert on this, so I guess we'll have to wait and see!

Blu n Gold · 02-21-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Johk

I don't see why they couldn't use the same video and audio encodes but it's a sure thing that they need to re-author the disc. So I'm not sure that we'll get new encodes (and to re do a new encode will surely cost money so you can bet that unless there is no other way, they'll stick with what they already have...)

But I'm not an expert on this, so I guess we'll have to wait and see!

They would need to redo all their encodes because HD DVD encodes on a blu-ray disc look like cat poop.

Drewza89 · 02-21-2008, 03:14 PM

I rented Shooter on Blu and the PQ was A+. I hope all of Paramount's future releases are just as good.

Downhere · 02-21-2008, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Blu n Gold

They would need to redo all their encodes because HD DVD encodes on a blu-ray disc look like cat poop.

No, they do not need to redo all of their encodes. Most of the encodes from Paramount and the big releases from Universal are on par with the best of Blu-ray.

Blu n Gold · 02-21-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Downhere

No, they do not need to redo all of their encodes. Most of the encodes from Paramount and the big releases from Universal are on par with the best of Blu-ray.

Well kind of,

Paramount did a good job on their Blu-ray releases. But generally, HD DVD ports onto blu-ray look and sound poor, no matter what studio they come from (ask every Ocean's trilogy owner). Every studio now needs to make sure that the specs for their Blu-ray releases are up to snuff and utilize the capabilities of the technology.

Kirsty_Mc · 02-21-2008, 03:29 PM

Paramount titles were consistently very good, even their BD-25 titles.

Sleepy Hollow came in for a bit of flak, but this was probably due to the material they had to work with. I would imagine it was shot on pretty fast film and many scenes are pretty dark. Grain was possibly introduced to the lighter scenes to match the dark ones.

So if the eagerly anticipated "Transformers" is of the quality of "Black Rain" or "The Untouchables", you won't be disappointed. Also it was mentioned on this forum that the BD transfer of "Transformers" was supervised by Michael Bay. I can't vouch for this though. I would imagine that this would be an early title, as it was also mentioned a while back that the pressing blank was in existence for this title.

WickyWoo · 02-21-2008, 03:31 PM

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For HD DVD owners, were their releases good quality or kind of shady like FOXes

All of Paramount's Blus I've seen have looked nice

I haven't seen a Fox release yet that wasn't an A+

Kirsty_Mc · 02-21-2008, 03:33 PM

Just as an asibe regarding quality... the worst Blu-ray that I posses is from Warner Bros... "Rio Grande". The picture is DVD quality

though again this was probably due to the material they had to work with.

BStecke · 02-21-2008, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by WickyWoo

All of Paramount's Blus I've seen have looked nice

I haven't seen a Fox release yet that wasn't an A+

But Robocop looks like crap!

mdm1699 · 02-21-2008, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by CampbellzSoup

For HD DVD owners, were their releases good quality or kind of shady like FOXes

The transfers are comparable to blu-ray. There are good and bad transfers on both side. Shooter, King Kong, Transformers, Ray, The Kingdom, Elizabeth......very very good transfers.

MasterXeus · 02-21-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BStecke

But Robocop looks like crap!

Looks like Robocop on Blu-ray came from MGM.

https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/movies.php?id=65

ryoohki · 02-21-2008, 03:51 PM

Paramount are good, not superb, but good overall. They new release are very good and the do an good job with catalog..

Universal is very good for New Release but generally use crappy old 1080 master from 10 years old filled with Edge Enhancement for Catalog Release

They started good with catalog and in 2007 it have been going down and down with the quality..

Memnoch71 · 02-21-2008, 04:13 PM

I heard the Children of Men import Blu-Ray looks excellent. That might be a good place for Universal to Start their releases from.... It's just a thought.

CptGreedle · 02-21-2008, 04:17 PM

If what I heard is true, Universal was planning to redo all the movies because the HD DVD transfers "were not good enough" for Blu-ray. Go figure.

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02-21-2008, 02:15 PM	#2
DepTii Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray collection:154 Blu-ray reviews:26 Trading Score:3	Well, Paramount has already released titles on Blu before... I hear Shooter has some really great picture quality. I heard somewhere that Universal is going to have to redo all of their movies, as they can't use the same transfers that they did with HD DVD, but I'm not totally sure. I hope it is true and they can do some higher bitrate encodes, plus lossless audio of course.

02-21-2008, 02:18 PM	#3
Blu n Gold Senior Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Short Stop	A lot of Fox transfers are top notch. Warner has many more shotty transfers. If they are using VC-1, the port would probably look like garbage. There is a lot of potential, but they would have to do a new encode. HD DVD ports make the elderly cry.

02-21-2008, 02:18 PM	#4
tiger roach Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Houston, TX Blu-ray collection:141 Blu-ray reviews:1	The reports I have seen on Universal haven't been very enthusiastic. I am glad to hear they will have to do new transfers for Blu, hopefully they will get them right this time.

02-21-2008, 02:23 PM	#5
Giyomu Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Location:France Blu-ray collection:347 Blu-ray reviews:6	universal's pretty good!! PQ talking king kong looks fabulous, the bourne are also nice doom and serenity are also spectacular now they do need to work on lossless audio

02-21-2008, 02:33 PM	#6
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	The Paramount titles I have (Black Snake Moan, Disturbia, Shooter, Coming To America, and Untouchables) are all pretty good IMO. Right before they went HD DVD exclusive they were starting to do seperate transfers for HD DVD and Blu-ray (which made their switch even more odd). Shooter caught some flack because it's an MPEG2 title, but it looks pretty damn good to me. I can't speak on Universal's quality, but generally their titles are some of the lower-ranked titles for reviews.

02-21-2008, 03:14 PM	#9
Drewza89 Special Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:USA 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:3	I rented Shooter on Blu and the PQ was A+. I hope all of Paramount's future releases are just as good.

02-21-2008, 03:29 PM	#12
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	Paramount titles were consistently very good, even their BD-25 titles. Sleepy Hollow came in for a bit of flak, but this was probably due to the material they had to work with. I would imagine it was shot on pretty fast film and many scenes are pretty dark. Grain was possibly introduced to the lighter scenes to match the dark ones. So if the eagerly anticipated "Transformers" is of the quality of "Black Rain" or "The Untouchables", you won't be disappointed. Also it was mentioned on this forum that the BD transfer of "Transformers" was supervised by Michael Bay. I can't vouch for this though. I would imagine that this would be an early title, as it was also mentioned a while back that the pressing blank was in existence for this title.

02-21-2008, 03:33 PM	#14
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	Just as an asibe regarding quality... the worst Blu-ray that I posses is from Warner Bros... "Rio Grande". The picture is DVD quality though again this was probably due to the material they had to work with.

02-21-2008, 03:51 PM	#18
ryoohki Blu-ray Samurai Member since:May 2007 Home Theater Gallery:6 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:5	Paramount are good, not superb, but good overall. They new release are very good and the do an good job with catalog.. Universal is very good for New Release but generally use crappy old 1080 master from 10 years old filled with Edge Enhancement for Catalog Release They started good with catalog and in 2007 it have been going down and down with the quality..

02-21-2008, 04:13 PM	#19
Memnoch71 Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Somewhere between here and there 4K collection:34 Blu-ray collection:252	I heard the Children of Men import Blu-Ray looks excellent. That might be a good place for Universal to Start their releases from.... It's just a thought.

02-21-2008, 04:17 PM	#20
CptGreedle Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Sworn super-hero now services Atlanta (and suburbs). Blu-ray collection:128 Blu-ray reviews:5	If what I heard is true, Universal was planning to redo all the movies because the HD DVD transfers "were not good enough" for Blu-ray. Go figure.

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