Paramount & Universal last in sales

[bluflu]

Last in sales is where dumb business decisions and mediocre product have landed Paramount/DreamWorks and Universal among the six major movie studios.

http://www.videobusiness.com/info/ca6460251.html

[GregBlu5]

It's too bad that *they* are unable to wish for a Blu Christmas this year!

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by bluflu

Last in sales is where dumb business decisions and mediocre product have landed Paramount/DreamWorks and Universal among the six major movie studios.

http://www.videobusiness.com/info/ca6460251.html

Good for them ,this is what will happened if you only support a loosing format called HD-DUD

[JJ_L]

Amen to bad sales. Hopefully it continues and they get a good kick in the .... for their total lack of fairness.

[SS316SRV]

If there is no demand for your product, you can charge less. See, Paramount really is looking out for the consumer, they are trying to driver their own prices down by using Economics 101.

[SS316SRV]

Originally Posted by JJ_L

Amen to bad sales. Hopefully it continues and they get a good kick in the .... for their total lack of fairness.

As blu as I am...you truthfully are wearing blu tinted glasses. Don't claim fairness here. Sony, Buena Vista, Fox and Lions Gate or exclusive, is that fair to the sad people who own HD DVD players? Don't claim that it is unfair that Universal and Paramount are HD DVD exclusive, you just look like a hypocrite.

[Amel]

Moderated for language

[Dave]

AWESOME! Hahahaha!

[jermwhl]

and the only reason paramount has sales as high as they are right now is because of just recently goiing HD exclusive...most of their numbers in that chart reflect sales from when they were neutral. I bet they've dipped even lower than that recently!

[david2189]

unlucky.

[ground chuck]

someone should lose their job, but the won't.

[Viiincent]

hmm. i hope this gets Universal to announce something blu.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by bluflu

Last in sales is where dumb business decisions and mediocre product have landed Paramount/DreamWorks and Universal among the six major movie studios.

http://www.videobusiness.com/info/ca6460251.html

According to the "sales" pie, Disney and Paramount are neck and neck. Surprising. If Disney pulled their classics out of the vault and release them on Blu, I bet the percentages would be much better for them.

[fronn]

These are total DVD/BR/HDDVD sales...

The affect of the hi def format war is almost insignificant on these numbers. Like 1%, at best, of those numbers are affected by the war -- not enough to change positioning in any way.

Whether or not Paramount or Universal supports BR wouldn't change those numbers in any appreciable way -- those numbers are that way because neither studio had any real big releases in the first half of 07 (which means it doesn't count Paramount's Transformers DVD sales).

[Jonty]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

As blu as I am...you truthfully are wearing blu tinted glasses. Don't claim fairness here. Sony, Buena Vista, Fox and Lions Gate or exclusive, is that fair to the sad people who own HD DVD players? Don't claim that it is unfair that Universal and Paramount are HD DVD exclusive, you just look like a hypocrite.

I agree with you re Universal - they have not wavered on their support for HD, which is fair. However, Paramount dropped BD to go HD exclusive, which I would argue is not fair to all those who bought a BD player based (at least in part) on Paramount being neutral...

[fronn]

Originally Posted by radagast

According to the "sales" pie, Disney and Paramount are neck and neck. Surprising. If Disney pulled their classics out of the vault and release them on Blu, I bet the percentages would be much better for them.

Not in any significant way, no. If they pulled them out of the vault disney would be at 1.242 billion at best, instead of 1.24 billion. Disney's classics aren't going to sell hundreds of millions of dollars at this point in the format's life -- they'd be lucky to sell 50k copies of them (50k copies means a few hundred thousand dollars back into Disney's pockets)... unless they plan on releasing 20-30 classics and assuming all of them sold 50k copies and didn't manage to oversaturate the market... then maybe we'd see a jump from 1.24 to 1.26billion! Moving on up!

The DVD market is still very much king... let's not get so deluded that we think BR sales are really affecting any studio's bottom line at this point.

[Beta-guy]

Originally Posted by SS316SRV

As blu as I am...you truthfully are wearing blu tinted glasses. Don't claim fairness here. Sony, Buena Vista, Fox and Lions Gate or exclusive, is that fair to the sad people who own HD DVD players? Don't claim that it is unfair that Universal and Paramount are HD DVD exclusive, you just look like a hypocrite.

I agree Fairness was the wrong word, it's more like poor vision, Paramount joined after the $150 million but claimed it was due to the costs of manufacturing the HD-DVD discs, Universal from my view point is a mystery, I don't know why they supported HD-DVD as long as they have or why they don't atleast go neutral (hopefully Blu) imagine how much Back to the Future would make on BD. BD has the upper hand and I believe it's secured with the PS3 (the $399 40 GB version specifically) I'm sure that a major concern that the major studio's have is piracy, well BD has on top of AACS an additional security measure called BD+.

and with only 3 region codes it's less restrictive then DVD was, but gives control/freedom to the studios regarding theatrical releases look at the movie Hairspray, they had to delay the HD-DVD version because the time they would have released that movie on BD in north america, it was still in theaters in europe, so no HD-DVD release until the European theaters stop playing the movie + the standard time it takes to release a home video from the theatrical release.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by Beta-guy

I agree Fairness was the wrong word, it's more like poor vision, Paramount joined after the $150 million but claimed it was due to the costs of manufacturing the HD-DVD discs, Universal from my view point is a mystery, I don't know why they supported HD-DVD as long as they have or why they don't atleast go neutral (hopefully Blu) imagine how much Back to the Future would make on BD. BD has the upper hand and I believe it's secured with the PS3 (the $399 40 GB version specifically) I'm sure that a major concern that the major studio's have is piracy, well BD has on top of AACS an additional security measure called BD+.

and with only 3 region codes it's less restrictive then DVD was, but gives control/freedom to the studios regarding theatrical releases look at the movie Hairspray, they had to delay the HD-DVD version because the time they would have released that movie on BD in north america, it was still in theaters in europe, so no HD-DVD release until the European theaters stop playing the movie + the standard time it takes to release a home video from the theatrical release.

I am wondering if that timed release is not just for theatrical. I am wondering if they won't wait until the movies is released on video outside of the US. If they release an HD DVD as soon as the movie is out of the theaters, it could possibly eat up some of the other distributors video profits too. Just wondering if they will have to wait that long. If it is not day and date, interest in a title fades over time, so they could possibly see a larger spread between the BD version and the HD DVD version than Warner sees.

[Maxell]

wow, that circa 66/33 ratio of blu-ray sales to hdud hold sort of true with those pie charts!

[dmhpro]

It is amazing not only in this format war but in aspects of life how things that are so painfully obvious are either ignored or somehow somebody can rationanalize a reason as to why it isnt so. We all know Blu is superior to HD-Dvd but yet somewhere people are making the decision that quality doesnt matter, and then those same people sit there wondering why sales are so low, and they have the power to change it but yet wont. In collegiate and professional sports how many times do we see head coaches that fail time and time again get new jobs only to fail again and then the ownership says "we cant figure out why we are not winning". Same goes for the real world. Not to get political but just to make a point, prior to George W. Bush our country, military, or key interests was attacked on 5 different occasions by fundamentalists (1)1st WTC (2) Khobal Towers in Saudi Arabia (3) US Embassy in Nigeria (4) US Embassy in Sudan (5) USS Cole, and each time we did not respond the fundamentalists ratcheted up the target and we had 9/11 because we did nothing, then Bush said enough, and put all these countries on the defensive, and how many times have we been attacked since 9/11? 0 . I just wish people would make decisions based on facts, BLU-RAY is better, Certain head coaches will never win you championships or divisional titles, and if you want to avoid being last in sales, sell a better product.