What is "Black Crush"? - Blu-ray Forum

SDon1969 · 02-29-2008, 04:22 PM

Hey all! I'm still in transition, breaking into the blu-ray scene one disc at a time. I've stumbled across a few new terms & acronyms along the way (BD, PQ, PCM, etc), and have found my answers here for the most part. One term I havn't been able to sucessfully search for is "black crush" - I see it a lot in blu-ray reviews. Could someone explain what black crush means for me?

eChopper · 02-29-2008, 04:28 PM

when you cant see details in the blacks : instead of gradations (shades) of black in dark areas of films, all you see is a murky dark mess.

otherwise known as your standard LCD rendition of black

SDon1969 · 02-29-2008, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eChopper

when you cant see details in the blacks : instead of gradations (shades) of black in dark areas of films, all you see is a murky dark mess.

otherwise known as your standard LCD rendition of black

Doh! I have a LCD! Thanks for the reply.

ManUtd · 02-29-2008, 05:57 PM

I used to dread watching dark scenes in DVD and BD because my previous TVs all exhibited black crush, now with the Kuro all is well.

catterwall · 02-29-2008, 06:31 PM

i would recommend getting your TV calibrated or yeah... just buy a kuro panel

savage1984 · 02-29-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by catterwall

i would recommend getting your TV calibrated or yeah... just buy a kuro panel

yeah if you have an extra 5 grand sitting around... sure go for it.

ManUtd · 02-29-2008, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by savage1984

yeah if you have an extra 5 grand sitting around... sure go for it.

Not all Kuros cost that much.

richteer · 02-29-2008, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by catterwall

i would recommend getting your TV calibrated or yeah... just buy a kuro panel

Or both!

DealsR4theDevil · 02-29-2008, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eChopper

when you cant see details in the blacks : instead of gradations (shades) of black in dark areas of films, all you see is a murky dark mess.

otherwise known as your standard LCD rendition of black

I can't stand LCDs for that very reason.

kpkelley · 02-29-2008, 09:39 PM

Black crush does not solely apply to tv's. In the reviews that you are referring to they reflect the quality of the transfer from the source material to the end product. The source material should have all those details in dark scenes, while a poor transfer can wash those out.

ManUtd · 02-29-2008, 09:43 PM

Excellent point kpkelley, garbage in garbage out still applies even with the best TVs.

krazeyeyez · 02-29-2008, 09:43 PM

my lcd shows good detail in black scenes.....true i have never seen a plasma in action other then in a store though.

gearyt · 02-29-2008, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by krazeyeyez

my lcd shows good detail in black scenes.....true i have never seen a plasma in action other then in a store though.

what a shame......

02-29-2008, 04:22 PM	#1
SDon1969 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2008 Location:Massachusetts Home Theater Gallery:32 Blu-ray collection:745 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	What is "Black Crush"? Hey all! I'm still in transition, breaking into the blu-ray scene one disc at a time. I've stumbled across a few new terms & acronyms along the way (BD, PQ, PCM, etc), and have found my answers here for the most part. One term I havn't been able to sucessfully search for is "black crush" - I see it a lot in blu-ray reviews. Could someone explain what black crush means for me?

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02-29-2008, 04:28 PM	#2
eChopper Expert Member Member since:Jan 2008 Blu-ray collection:21 Blu-ray reviews:74 Trading Score:2	when you cant see details in the blacks : instead of gradations (shades) of black in dark areas of films, all you see is a murky dark mess. otherwise known as your standard LCD rendition of black

02-29-2008, 05:57 PM	#4
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	I used to dread watching dark scenes in DVD and BD because my previous TVs all exhibited black crush, now with the Kuro all is well.

02-29-2008, 06:31 PM	#5
catterwall Active Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Newberg, OR	i would recommend getting your TV calibrated or yeah... just buy a kuro panel

02-29-2008, 09:39 PM	#10
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Black crush does not solely apply to tv's. In the reviews that you are referring to they reflect the quality of the transfer from the source material to the end product. The source material should have all those details in dark scenes, while a poor transfer can wash those out.

02-29-2008, 09:43 PM	#11
ManUtd Blu-ray Count Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 Location:In my HT Home Theater Gallery:1 4K collection:15 Blu-ray collection:829 Blu-ray reviews: 5 Trading Score:5	Excellent point kpkelley, garbage in garbage out still applies even with the best TVs.

02-29-2008, 09:43 PM	#12
krazeyeyez Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Dec 2007 Location:the guy on the couch Home Theater Gallery:18 Blu-ray collection:287 Blu-ray reviews:4	my lcd shows good detail in black scenes.....true i have never seen a plasma in action other then in a store though.

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