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Old 03-10-2008, 04:49 PM   #1
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Just wached my first Blu-ray (3:10 To Yuma). Great movie. But I must say I was not that impressed with the HD quality. I previously watched Indiana Jones movie in regular DVD format, and to be truthful, I could not really see any difference between the regular DVD and Blu-ray - that is, based only on these two movie comparisons. Is it just me, and maybe poor eyesight (I do have 20/20 vision)? Or were my expectations too high for Blu-ray?

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Old 03-10-2008, 04:52 PM   #2
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full HD is more noticable in the smaller areas than in large overall picture. Look how much text looks more clear in HD, peoples eyes (not on a close up shot) it's the small fine details that were hard to see before. If you still can't notice it, then you are watching it on the wrong setup.
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It could be a number of things. The difference isn't really noticeable at first. You might see a marginal difference. Watch a few BDs and then try going back to watch something in standard definition. This is when you will see the difference between HD and SD. Also, the size of your dispay and how away you sit can also be a limiting factor.
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full HD is more noticable in the smaller areas than in large overall picture. Look how much text looks more clear in HD, peoples eyes (not on a close up shot) it's the small fine details that were hard to see before. If you still can't notice it, then you are watching it on the wrong setup.
Well put.
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Old 03-10-2008, 04:56 PM   #5
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What are you watching it on?
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Old 03-10-2008, 04:58 PM   #6
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I'm rather surprised no one asked the obvious -- just what are you looking at the BD disc on?

If your display ain't 1080p then you have no basis for comparison. 1080p (with the corresponding BD output) is so much better than regular DVD anyone even halfway blind will see the difference immediately. If you want proof, just drop by any Best Buy or Circuit City where they will show you a side by side comparison (now, this assumes they've set things up properly -- some of them don't know any more than your average housewife).

So you'll need a set capable of 1080p, and the right hookups -- HDMI set properly and your BD player and display set up correctly. If so, you WILL see the difference -- you can't help it.

Now -- you CAN see the difference on lesser displays, but it won't be nearly as dramatic.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:00 PM   #7
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If your display ain't 1080p then you have no basis for comparison. 1080p (with the corresponding BD output) is so much better than regular DVD anyone even halfway blind will see the difference immediately. If you want proof, just drop by any Best Buy or Circuit City where they will show you a side by side comparison (now, this assumes they've set things up properly -- some of them don't know any more than your average housewife).
That's assuming a lot... some of these people convince their customers that upconverted DVDs are HiDef
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:01 PM   #8
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if you can't tell the difference then there is something screwy. it should be noticed immediately IMO.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:02 PM   #9
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I'm rather surprised no one asked the obvious -- just what are you looking at the BD disc on?

If your display ain't 1080p then you have no basis for comparison. 1080p (with the corresponding BD output) is so much better than regular DVD anyone even halfway blind will see the difference immediately. If you want proof, just drop by any Best Buy or Circuit City where they will show you a side by side comparison (now, this assumes they've set things up properly -- some of them don't know any more than your average housewife).

So you'll need a set capable of 1080p, and the right hookups -- HDMI set properly and your BD player and display set up correctly. If so, you WILL see the difference -- you can't help it.

Now -- you CAN see the difference on lesser displays, but it won't be nearly as dramatic.
You know what's funny...I went to target the other day...and they received a new Blu-Ray Display with a tv and everything...I glanced at it and it looked horrible...I was too disgusted to keep walking. I went to it, looked behind the tv....they were running a feed to it through RCA cables.. I THREW A FIT! I talked to the guy working in electronics and told him how they're doing a horrible job at presenting the new technology, after he laughed me off, he said he would talk to his manager...GRRR!!!
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:03 PM   #10
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also depends on the tv your using
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You know what's funny...I went to target the other day...and they received a new Blu-Ray Display with a tv and everything...I glanced at it and it looked horrible...I was too disgusted to keep walking. I went to it, looked behind the tv....they were running a feed to it through RCA cables.. I THREW A FIT! I talked to the guy working in electronics and told him how they're doing a horrible job at presenting the new technology, after he laughed me off, he said he would talk to his manager...GRRR!!!
Maybe that's what the OP is doing...
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Just wached my first Blu-ray (3:10 To Yuma). Great movie. But I must say I was not that impressed with the HD quality. I previously watched Indiana Jones movie in regular DVD format, and to be truthful, I could not really see any difference between the regular DVD and Blu-ray - that is, based only on these two movie comparisons. Is it just me, and maybe poor eyesight (I do have 20/20 vision)? Or were my expectations too high for Blu-ray?

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1) you should see the difference between HD an SD
2) how did hook it up did you use hdmi or strickly components
3) see an optometrist
4) check your settings on your tv
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:12 PM   #13
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My Panasonic plazzy 50'' 720p/1080i blows peoples F-ing minds (even people with 1080p displays) , so I have no idea whats up with you...
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:12 PM   #14
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1 - What TV are you using?
2 - What Blu-Ray player are you using?
3 - Do you have these items set to display the picture correctly?
4 - What video cable are you using? HDMI? Component? etc.......

It's hard to offer any kind of help without knowing any of this.

My experience has been that when properly set up, any hi-def set whether it's 720p, 1080i, or 1080p will display a superb, knockout picture (especially with 3:10 to Yuma) and it will be easily distinguishable from standard DVD.
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I used to have a 720P tv with 3000:1 contrast ratio, now I've got a nice Samsung 1080p with 10,000:1 contrast ratio and I can't even stand to watch TV anymore.

I mean the colors are nicer and everything, but now I can see all the compression and pixelization that the HD channels use to get the programming broadcast. I guess it's only blu from now on. My blu collection looks incredible.
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1) you should see the difference between HD an SD
2) how did hook it up did you use hdmi or strickly components
3) see an optometrist
4) check your settings on your tv
cawgijoe , you forgot about the optometrist in your list... 3:10 is one of my reference blus, no idea how he isn't seeing a difference if it is run properly
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:15 PM   #17
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That's assuming a lot... some of these people convince their customers that upconverted DVDs are HiDef
Originally Posted by Bango
You know what's funny...I went to target the other day...and they received a new Blu-Ray Display with a tv and everything...I glanced at it and it looked horrible...I was too disgusted to keep walking. I went to it, looked behind the tv....they were running a feed to it through RCA cables.. I THREW A FIT! I talked to the guy working in electronics and told him how they're doing a horrible job at presenting the new technology, after he laughed me off, he said he would talk to his manager...GRRR!!!
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a lot of stores always show lousy video. they all have the sets set way to high where the screen is all washed out and refuse to correct them saying thats the way the tv is. But the best i've seen is when they are showing off pioneer with blu-ray
I too have noticed they use component cables instead of hdmi
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Originally Posted by Bango
You know what's funny...I went to target the other day...and they received a new Blu-Ray Display with a tv and everything...I glanced at it and it looked horrible...I was too disgusted to keep walking. I went to it, looked behind the tv....they were running a feed to it through RCA cables.. I THREW A FIT! I talked to the guy working in electronics and told him how they're doing a horrible job at presenting the new technology, after he laughed me off, he said he would talk to his manager...GRRR!!!
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a lot of stores always show lousy video. they all have the sets set way to high where the screen is all washed out and refuse to correct them saying thats the way the tv is. But the best i've seen is when they are showing off pioneer with blu-ray
I too have noticed they use component cables instead of hdmi
My Target did the same thing. The Blu-Ray display had Jack Sparrow looking as green as the Incredible Hulk.
I was thinking to myself that they would probably sell more Blu-Rays if they just turned off the display.
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Old 03-10-2008, 05:21 PM   #20
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I'm rather surprised no one asked the obvious -- just what are you looking at the BD disc on?

If your display ain't 1080p then you have no basis for comparison. 1080p (with the corresponding BD output) is so much better than regular DVD anyone even halfway blind will see the difference immediately. If you want proof, just drop by any Best Buy or Circuit City where they will show you a side by side comparison (now, this assumes they've set things up properly -- some of them don't know any more than your average housewife).

So you'll need a set capable of 1080p, and the right hookups -- HDMI set properly and your BD player and display set up correctly. If so, you WILL see the difference -- you can't help it.

Now -- you CAN see the difference on lesser displays, but it won't be nearly as dramatic.
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ever notice in bestbuy the advertisement that all their tvs are spliced and adjusted way to high
and if the tv isn't 1080p then you are not getting your monies worth
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