The next Apple OS will play HD-DVD and Blu-ray - Blu-ray Forum

MrVandelay · 01-24-2007, 03:04 PM

http://www.dvdtown.com/news/thenexta...dvdbluray/4284

Announcement
By Henning Molbaek
FIRST PUBLISHED Jan 22, 2007
According to the online magazine Apple Insider the next OS X release from Apple nicknamed Leopard will feature HD-DVD and Blu-ray playback.

BETA releases of the software has according to reports references to the new HD formats.

Hopefully it will find it's way into the final release which is expected in Spring 2007.

dialog_gvf · 01-24-2007, 03:15 PM

I wonder which drive Apple will offer?

Gary

Blubaru · 01-24-2007, 03:16 PM

I’m sure that it will support HD-DVD playback just like how Windows will support Blu-ray playback.

I highly doubt you will ever see a HD-DVD player in a Mac. You will probably have to buy an external one. It would be funny if you could use the Xbox add on.

Josh · 01-24-2007, 03:27 PM

There has been talk about apple offering a multi-drive solution, if at all. So possibly that LG drive?

Banjo · 01-24-2007, 05:21 PM

LG? I doubt Apple would bother with LG.

They tend to use Pioneer's optical disc drives from what I know.

JTK · 01-24-2007, 05:25 PM

HD-DVD is pretty much DOA by the time Leopard comes out anyways.

A BDA stalwart like Apple? I agree: I'd pretty much guarantee you that you'll never see HD-DVD on an Apple platform.

What's the point? Why bother?

Shadowself · 01-24-2007, 05:41 PM

First, Apple is a huge H.264 proponent. (It wouldn't be because H.264 file format is based upon Apple's QuickTime could it?)

Apple is on the Blu-ray board. Apple has access to all the software that is required for a Blu-ray system. (Including VC-1 licensing)

For an Apple system to read and decode all the capabilities of a HD DVD disk Apple would have to get a license to put HDi (formerly iHD) in OS X 10.5. Will Microsoft give Apple such a license? That's debateable.

Note that the latest versions of Window Media Player are NOT available on OS X (and probably never will be). There are other examples where MS is dropping capabilities from Mac OS that it once provided (e.g., VBA in Office), but that's only goes to Microsoft recent frame of mind with regard to Apple and is not directly related to HD DVD.

Will full HD DVD capability be available to Mac users? Almost definately -- if not from Apple then through some 3rd party. But native HD DVD capabilities? That's more Microsoft's call than Apple's, unfortunately.

jedivball · 01-24-2007, 05:57 PM

There is an special Apple event schedule for February 20. We should know more about the release date for 10.5 and maybe new hardware.

phranctoast · 01-24-2007, 06:24 PM

I was under the impression that Windows would never support BD-J out of the box...

Dave · 01-24-2007, 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phranctoast

I was under the impression that Windows would never support BD-J out of the box...

It will, while i dont think Apple will hd dvd. They are exclusive to Blu-ray, always have been!

Urian · 01-24-2007, 08:55 PM

The video components of OS X ever came with the hand of Quicktime and Quicktime ever adapts MPEG-Licensed components and we know that VC-1 is one of them.

Of course Apple is going to be able to play BluRay movies from the system but they will have lack of support for HDi and another LG case could appear.

MrVandelay · 01-24-2007, 09:58 PM

looks like Mac is prepared to support BOTH

Mac OS X 10.5 to support HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc?

By Tony Smith [More by this author]
17th October 2006 15:22 GMT
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10...upport_mooted/

Apple may be preparing to support not only Blu-ray Disc but also HD DVD, it has emerged. The next major relase of the Mac OS X operating system, 'Leopard' may allow users to play and burn both types of high-definition media - making it a sort of Hi-Def Leppard, we suppose... oh well... - it has be claimed.

According to Think Secret sources, Final Cut Studio, Apple's pro-oriented digital movie editing tool may also be updated with BD and HD DVD support. The moles point to a possible hardware release sometime during the first half of 2007

That at least is eminently easy to do given the new Mac Pro enclosure's twin optical drive bays, and Apple has form here: when it launched its SuperDrive DVD burner it was quick to stress the drives support for the DVD-R/RW format, but it wasn't that long before the drive and Mac OS X's disc-burning code could handle DVD+R/RW too.

Apple threw its weight behind Blu-ray Disc format in March 2005, but with neither BD nor HD DVD yet making any clear headway over the other - and unlikely to for the time being - there's a strong argument for supporting both or neither until a winner emerges. Or someone ships a cheap player capable of reading and writing both formats.

Guinness7 · 01-25-2007, 12:32 AM

Well macs are normally for graphics so of course they would want good media for the out put of their things

Urian · 01-25-2007, 10:17 AM

Applications like Shake, Final Cut (Pro and Express), DVD Studio Pro and Motion are widely used by the video professional industry (for example part of the mastering in the Lord of the Rings were done with Shake) and all them are from Apple and OS X exclusive.

I can imagine the situation, HD-DVD was without Apple support and Intel convinced Apple to go to the neutral camp, since Apple isn´t creator of content and a creator of hardware they lose nothing with the dual support of both platforms.

In other words, they only make professional tools, HD war is outside of them.

01-24-2007, 03:04 PM	#1
MrVandelay Junior Member Member since:Dec 2006	The next Apple OS will play HD-DVD and Blu-ray http://www.dvdtown.com/news/thenexta...dvdbluray/4284 Announcement By Henning Molbaek FIRST PUBLISHED Jan 22, 2007 According to the online magazine Apple Insider the next OS X release from Apple nicknamed Leopard will feature HD-DVD and Blu-ray playback. BETA releases of the software has according to reports references to the new HD formats. Hopefully it will find it's way into the final release which is expected in Spring 2007.

01-24-2007, 05:41 PM	#7
Shadowself Senior Member Member since:Sep 2005	Just a quick comment First, Apple is a huge H.264 proponent. (It wouldn't be because H.264 file format is based upon Apple's QuickTime could it?) Apple is on the Blu-ray board. Apple has access to all the software that is required for a Blu-ray system. (Including VC-1 licensing) For an Apple system to read and decode all the capabilities of a HD DVD disk Apple would have to get a license to put HDi (formerly iHD) in OS X 10.5. Will Microsoft give Apple such a license? That's debateable. Note that the latest versions of Window Media Player are NOT available on OS X (and probably never will be). There are other examples where MS is dropping capabilities from Mac OS that it once provided (e.g., VBA in Office), but that's only goes to Microsoft recent frame of mind with regard to Apple and is not directly related to HD DVD. Will full HD DVD capability be available to Mac users? Almost definately -- if not from Apple then through some 3rd party. But native HD DVD capabilities? That's more Microsoft's call than Apple's, unfortunately.

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01-24-2007, 03:15 PM	#2
dialog_gvf Moderator Member since:Nov 2006 Location:Toronto Blu-ray collection:320	I wonder which drive Apple will offer? Gary

01-24-2007, 03:16 PM	#3
Blubaru Expert Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Tonight! you!	I’m sure that it will support HD-DVD playback just like how Windows will support Blu-ray playback. I highly doubt you will ever see a HD-DVD player in a Mac. You will probably have to buy an external one. It would be funny if you could use the Xbox add on.

01-24-2007, 03:27 PM	#4
Josh Super Moderator Top contributor Member since:Sep 2006 Home Theater Gallery:50 4K collection:37 Blu-ray collection:407 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:34	There has been talk about apple offering a multi-drive solution, if at all. So possibly that LG drive?

01-24-2007, 05:21 PM	#5
Banjo Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2006 Location:Ontario, Canada Blu-ray collection:143	LG? I doubt Apple would bother with LG. They tend to use Pioneer's optical disc drives from what I know.

01-24-2007, 05:25 PM	#6
JTK Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jan 2006 Location:www.blurayoasis.com	HD-DVD is pretty much DOA by the time Leopard comes out anyways. A BDA stalwart like Apple? I agree: I'd pretty much guarantee you that you'll never see HD-DVD on an Apple platform. What's the point? Why bother?

01-24-2007, 05:57 PM	#8
jedivball Active Member Member since:Oct 2006 Location:Illinois 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:318 DVD collection:11 Digital collection:12 Trading Score:1	There is an special Apple event schedule for February 20. We should know more about the release date for 10.5 and maybe new hardware.

01-24-2007, 06:24 PM	#9
phranctoast Power Member Member since:Aug 2006 Location:Long Island, NY;psn:phranctoast Blu-ray collection:78	I was under the impression that Windows would never support BD-J out of the box...

01-24-2007, 08:55 PM	#11
Urian Member Member since:Aug 2006	The video components of OS X ever came with the hand of Quicktime and Quicktime ever adapts MPEG-Licensed components and we know that VC-1 is one of them. Of course Apple is going to be able to play BluRay movies from the system but they will have lack of support for HDi and another LG case could appear.

01-24-2007, 09:58 PM	#12
MrVandelay Junior Member Member since:Dec 2006	looks like Mac is prepared to support BOTH Mac OS X 10.5 to support HD DVD and Blu-ray Disc? By Tony Smith [More by this author] 17th October 2006 15:22 GMT http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/10...upport_mooted/ Apple may be preparing to support not only Blu-ray Disc but also HD DVD, it has emerged. The next major relase of the Mac OS X operating system, 'Leopard' may allow users to play and burn both types of high-definition media - making it a sort of Hi-Def Leppard, we suppose... oh well... - it has be claimed. According to Think Secret sources, Final Cut Studio, Apple's pro-oriented digital movie editing tool may also be updated with BD and HD DVD support. The moles point to a possible hardware release sometime during the first half of 2007 That at least is eminently easy to do given the new Mac Pro enclosure's twin optical drive bays, and Apple has form here: when it launched its SuperDrive DVD burner it was quick to stress the drives support for the DVD-R/RW format, but it wasn't that long before the drive and Mac OS X's disc-burning code could handle DVD+R/RW too. Apple threw its weight behind Blu-ray Disc format in March 2005, but with neither BD nor HD DVD yet making any clear headway over the other - and unlikely to for the time being - there's a strong argument for supporting both or neither until a winner emerges. Or someone ships a cheap player capable of reading and writing both formats.

01-25-2007, 12:32 AM	#13
Guinness7 Power Member Top contributor Member since:Jan 2007 Location:NJ Blu-ray collection:259 Trading Score:59	Well macs are normally for graphics so of course they would want good media for the out put of their things

01-25-2007, 10:17 AM	#14
Urian Member Member since:Aug 2006	Applications like Shake, Final Cut (Pro and Express), DVD Studio Pro and Motion are widely used by the video professional industry (for example part of the mastering in the Lord of the Rings were done with Shake) and all them are from Apple and OS X exclusive. I can imagine the situation, HD-DVD was without Apple support and Intel convinced Apple to go to the neutral camp, since Apple isn´t creator of content and a creator of hardware they lose nothing with the dual support of both platforms. In other words, they only make professional tools, HD war is outside of them.

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